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[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Ryzen needs more PCIe lanes

or plx  

[done12many2]

Just now, Jumper118 said:

or plx  

 

Latency isn't Ryzen's strong point.  No need to add more with PLX.  

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Latency isn't Ryzen's strong point.  No need to add more with PLX.  

True..... X299 is the answer

[Jumper118]

1 minute ago, done12many2 said:

 

Latency isn't Ryzen's strong point.  No need to add more with PLX.  

for benching it would not matter i dont think, all intel z chipsetsets have had plx boards where you can do 4 way on an i3  i have run 3 way sli on an i3 2100 before and it was g8. 

 

the other issue with these higher core count chips oc is the power draw, back in 2014 i heard they had some 18 core xeons that they unlocked multi's in intel labs and they were drawing so much power on ln2 that they only got to 4ghz before the vrm on the motherboard blow up  

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, Jumper118 said:

for benching it would not matter i dont think, all intel z chipsetsets have had plx boards where you can do 4 way on an i3  i have run 3 way sli on an i3 2100 before and it was g8. 

 

the other issue with these higher core count chips oc is the power draw, back in 2014 i heard they had some 18 core xeons that they unlocked multi's in intel labs and they were drawing so much power on ln2 that they only got to 4ghz before the vrm on the motherboard blow up  

 

Well, as you know, I could absolutely care less about LN2 performance with any chip.  I care about how high I can run something daily.  If I have to remove parts from a case just to use it, I have no need for it.

 

With that said, I'd be happy with a 12c part that at least boosted a few cores to high clock speeds and ran at a lower clock speed when all core were firing.  Best of both world in single and multi threading.  

[Jumper118]

6 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

Well, as you know, I could absolutely care less about LN2 performance with any chip.  I care about how high I can run something daily.  If I have to remove parts from a case just to use it, I have no need for it.

 

With that said, I'd be happy with a 12c part that at least boosted a few cores to high clock speeds and ran at a lower clock speed when all core were firing.  Best of both world in single and multi threading.  

yes, but if they can't get decent clocks on ln2, it is quite possible that ambient performance is going to run unto a heat wall much faster as the cpu is way more efficient power wise at -100c than +60c  obviously this was 18 cores, so they arent going to unlock that, but its is something to consider if you are expecting 5ghz 12 core on same architecture as 5ghz quad. 

 

I can also see them not bothering unlocking a 12 and just leaving the 10 unlocked again as just the clock speed boost will be a big performance improvement over the 6950x and intel will save the 12 core for next gen  

[done12many2]

6 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

yes, but if they can't get decent clocks on ln2, it is quite possible that ambient performance is going to run unto a heat wall much faster as the cpu is way more efficient power wise at -100c than +60c  obviously this was 18 cores, so they arent going to unlock that, but its is something to consider if you are expecting 5ghz 12 core on same architecture as 5ghz quad. 

 

So how does what you said make any sense with Ryzen?  Clocks higher then HWE and BWE on LN2, but much lower on ambient.

 

I'm definitely not expecting 5 GHz on all cores out of a 12c part, but quality BWE based 6950x chips can hit 4.5 to 4.6 on all 10 cores, so it isn't too far fetched to believe that a Skylake-X base 10c part might do 4.8 to 5.0 on all cores with the 12 core part obviously clocking a bit lower.

 

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I can also see them not bothering unlocking a 12 and just leaving the 10 unlocked again as just the clock speed boost will be a big performance improvement over the 6950x and intel will save the 12 core for next gen  

 

Agree there, however I'm pretty sure a 12c part is coming our way with x299.  I'm confident enough to take bets.  

[Jumper118]

7 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

So how does what you said make any sense with Ryzen?  

idk what i said  

7 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

 

So how does what you said make any sense with Ryzen?  Clocks higher then HWE and BWE on LN2, but much lower on ambient.

 

I'm definitely not expecting 5 GHz on all cores out of a 12c part, but quality BWE based 6950x chips can hit 4.5 to 4.6 on all 10 cores, so it isn't too far fetched to believe that a Skylake-X base 10c part might do 4.8 to 5.0 on all cores with the 12 core part obviously clocking a bit lower.

 

 

Agree there.  I'm pretty sure a 12c part is coming our way with x299.  I'm confident enough to take bets.  

the 6950x that hit 4.6ghz are top 0.1% chips, the kind they put in 8pack systems. you would have to bin a lot to get ones like that. maybe top 0.1% will do 5ghz on ambient, but 4.6-4.8ghz will be good for those as you are adding extra cores even though the architecture is better. 

 

i suppose we shall see from the rumors if it will be 10 or a 12 that is the X chip. i think they may stick with a 10 as they have no competition for 10's yet from amd and they dont like to eat xeon sales where they dont have to. 

 

 

the other thing for me is 5960x cold bugged about -140 on a decent one and 6950x -120 at best whereas a skylake or kaby based chip will most likely be full pot, which will give it way more headroom and make it easier to bench.

[LegionOfOne]

6 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

I definitely don't like cooking so that ain't it.  

 

@done12many2: 1080p Extreme: 11631, 4k Optimized: 15523, 8k Optimized: 6904  (1080 SLI w/ 7700k @ 5.4GHz)

 

@Cheddle: 1080p Extreme: 12272, 4k Optimized: 16273, 8k Optimized: 8958  (1080 Ti SLI w/ 5820k @ 4.75 GHz)

 

@LegionOfOne: 1080p Extreme: 11640, 4k Optimized: 18465, 8k Optimized: 8355 (1080 Ti SLI w/ 6850k @ unknown) 

 

 

Difference between @done12many2 and @Cheddle:  1080p Extreme: 5.2%, 4k Optimized: 4.6%, 8k Optimized: 23%

 

Difference between @done12many2 and @LegionOfOne:  1080p Extreme: 0.1%, 4k Optimized: 16%, 8k Optimized: 17.4%

 

While I was able to run my 1080 clocks slightly higher then those of @Cheddle's 1080 Ti clocks, I don't think that a 1080 should be within 5.2% or 0.1% of a 1080 Ti in a "well optimized" 1080p Extreme run.  I can't help but think that CPU performance is still affecting the 1080p Extreme benchmark a bit. 

 

 

 

 

For the science of the numbers my CPU is ocd at 4.3 

[arnavvr]

3 hours ago, done12many2 said:

 

I'm guessing that's what it would take for it to overcome the lack of ambient overclocking, but I'd say 98% of those 8 core Intel parts in there are running ambient cooling. 

 

Literally, most are ambient cooled.  Sure there are a few LN2 Intel chips in there, but most are chips running in the 4.5 to 4.8 area.

 

So a 1800X LN2 is equivalent to a 7700K on ambient.... Interesting...

[NicklasAPJ]

@PCGuy_5960

My 6900K score, is the same as a 5960X at 5/5.1Ghz.

 

6900K got some Strong points cause of IPC gains, or something else, cache and stuff. it can be many things.

 

[done12many2]

1 minute ago, NicklasAPJ said:

@PCGuy_5960

My 6900K score, is the same as a 5960X at 5/5.1Ghz.

 

6900K got some Strong points cause of IPC gains, or something else, cache and stuff. it can be many things.

 

 

Do you have any Cinebench R15 results?  

 

7 minutes ago, arnavvr said:

So a 1800X LN2 is equivalent to a 7700K on ambient.... Interesting...

 

Not sure what you mean by that?

[NicklasAPJ]

@done12many2

atm, I only have at 4.5Ghz @ 3200Mhz Memory, can be better with tweaked settings/windows and stuff.
May try tomrrow.

 

 

[done12many2]

8 minutes ago, NicklasAPJ said:

@done12many2

atm, I only have at 4.5Ghz @ 3200Mhz Memory, can be better with tweaked settings/windows and stuff.
May try tomrrow.

 

 

 

3200 is actually the perfect RAM speed for both Haswell-E and Broadwell-E.  The best you'll ever get if you're lucky is 3400 since the memory controller on BWE is slightly better.  Cache is a bit slower on BWE though.  Looks like you tightened up RAM timings for that R15 run.  

 

45 more points and you'll match my 5960x.  It may be old, but it's still running beautifully  .  

 

[NicklasAPJ]

@done12many2

I need 4.6Ghz to that I think will try tomrrow!

 

That ram speed/CL is for every benchmark, firestirke/timespy, 100% stabile, but as soon as the ram go over 1.41 Volt, they wont do a single thing, so need other ram!

I tried some 3600 @ CL 14 ram, and it run perfekt! but was a friends, so was just to try!

 

atm im just wating for X299 / 12 Core.

[done12many2]

Just now, NicklasAPJ said:

@done12many2

I need 4.6Ghz to that I think will try tomrrow!

 

Sounds good bud

 

Just now, NicklasAPJ said:

I tried some 3600 @ CL 14 ram, and it run perfekt! but was a friends, so was just to try!

 

You'd be the only one I've ever heard get that high of a speed running without loosening timings a lot.

 

Just now, NicklasAPJ said:

atm im just wating for X299 / 12 Core.

 

You and me both.  It's going to be a beast and I'm looking forward to the new platform and all of it's goodies.  

[VagabondWraith]

X299 sounds like a beast in the making. I guess it depends on how it fares against the 4-core processors in gaming. If it's comparable, I'll switch platforms. I would like to enjoy higher physics scores for benching.

[PCGuy_5960]

13 hours ago, NicklasAPJ said:

6900K got some Strong points cause of IPC gains, or something else, cache and stuff. it can be many things.

I think that Intel improved their Hyperthreading with Broadwell-E. Because Brodawell's IPC is not much higher than Haswell's

[Jumper118]

2 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I think that Intel improved their Hyperthreading with Broadwell-E. Because Brodawell's IPC is not much higher than Haswell's

lol wut. the ipc is pretty much same a skylake, its the clocks that suck  

[crazednecro]

just wait till i overclock this bitch you all be running scared.

[PCGuy_5960]

3 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

lol wut. the ipc is pretty much same a skylake

No its not

5 minutes ago, Jumper118 said:

its the clocks that suck  

Indeed

[PCGuy_5960]

1 minute ago, crazednecro said:

How were you able to run the benchmark without throwing up????

[done12many2]

2 minutes ago, crazednecro said:

just wait till i overclock this bitch you all be running scared.

 

Damn.  Nice work man!  I would have to put my computer to sleep to achieve that level of performance.  

[Jumper118]

32 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

No its not

Indeed

that is the ddr4 doing the extra werk not the cpu  

[PCGuy_5960]

40 minutes ago, done12many2 said:

Damn.  Nice work man!  I would have to put my computer to sleep to achieve that level of performance.  

You would still get a higher score