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has anyone ever ditched hard drives completely for ssds? have you ever experienced ssd failure??

can you run raid 1 on ssds?

 

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4 minutes ago, poopy said:

has anyone ever ditched hard drives completely for ssds? have you ever experienced ssd failure??

can you run raid 1 on ssds?

 

I would have ssds, and if oyu are worried about data loss, some HDDs that you can back up onto.

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Yes - Both Laptop and Desktop

No - I have had about 6 SSD's and no issues with any, longest being about 3 or 4 years and still going

Yes - Pretty sure u can raid1, i am on Raid0 with 2x 240GB PNY CS1311

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Yes you can run SSDs in RAID 1.  I think the main concern for most people (And why they don't do this) is the massively increased cost for very little benefit for the purposes of mass data storage.

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1) people have, yes, when they either have a lot of money for a large SSD or don't need that much space. My laptop only has 128GB SSD.

 

2) no, but I have had HDDs get SMART errors.

 

3) yes you can.

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Yes, definitely consider dropping HDDs for the desktop. I did it about a year ago and it's been amazing thus far.

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I had a 60gb SSD with a mechanical drive for storage. over 5 years I slowly added more mechanical drives when needed. My drives never failed but I dont buy cheap drives. When the 60Gb drive got full I bought a larger SSD and moved all mechanical drives to a NAS. Now my desk is super quiet but I still have access to my larger files when needed.

6 minutes ago, poopy said:

can you run raid 1 on ssds?

You dont need redundancy if you are not running a system that needs 100% uptime. Its better to backup your data properly

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HDDs are soooo much cheaper, for mass storage you can buy 6 2 TB HDDs for the price of one 2 TB SSD! I don't think it's time to abandon the HDD yet.

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5 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

I had a 60gb SSD with a mechanical drive for storage. over 5 years I slowly added more mechanical drives when needed. My drives never failed but I dont buy cheap drives. When the 60Gb drive got full I bought a larger SSD and moved all mechanical drives to a NAS. Now my desk is super quiet but I still have access to my larger files when needed.

You dont need redundancy if you are not running a system that needs 100% uptime. Its better to backup your data properly

well im just asking since i hear that that ssds are 'impossible' to retrieve data from when they fail

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I keep a combo of SSD and HDD like veryone does. Unless you are the type of guy who can spend on NVME SSD with high capacity

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1 minute ago, Xanthe_2871 said:

HDDs are soooo much cheaper, for mass storage you can buy 6 2 TB HDDs for the price of one 2 TB SSD! I don't think it's time to abandon the HDD yet.

i need about 200Gb for games and operating system and that is quite affordable. I find a lot of people keep their multimedia on portable drives

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well im just asking since i hear that that ssds are 'impossible' to retrieve data from when they fail

buy one with a five year warranty

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I replaced my OS drives probably 5 or 6 years ago, and my last build was purely SSD, and that's what they'll be from now on.

I only use an HDD for external storage of my media files.

I'll never have an HDD in a system again.

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i need about 200Gb for games and operating system and that is quite affordable. I find a lot of people keep their multimedia on portable drives

It all depends on what you use your PC for. For someone like me, who can easily create 100+ GB of data in a single event, SSDs for mass storage are not even an option. I have 40+ drives with over 15 TB in total space (around 45 TB, but since I buy used I use two backups instead of one per main drive).

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2 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

I keep a combo of SSD and HDD like veryone does. Unless you are the type of guy who can spend on NVME SSD with high capacity

well im trying to do a pc desk completely water cooled but i dotn want to water cool the hdds and the rads will be in a diff section so it would be 100% dust proof

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14 minutes ago, poopy said:

has anyone ever ditched hard drives completely for ssds?

 Yes and no. I still think HDD's are important for mass storage.

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have you ever experienced ssd failure??

Several but this was back when 120GB cost nearly 100 dollars.

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can you run raid 1 on ssds?

 

You can but the only benefit that I can see is a redundant copy.

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Unless you are the type of guy who can spend on NVME SSD with high capacity

That'd be me and a few others.

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5 minutes ago, poopy said:

well im just asking since i hear that that ssds are 'impossible' to retrieve data from when they fail

That may well be, but does it matter?  I would never let whether recovery is possible factor into my decision of which drives to use since you should never let it come to that. If data recovery is your backup plan, you need to rethink it ;) 

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SSD are still really expensive nowadays, hard drives are still good and will still be good in the future. Remember that my dad, all his life he worked for a big tech company and he used to back up ALL his data on cassette tapes, yes, CASSETTE TAPES! Like not the ones that you think, the consumer grade ones like the LTO 7. So I imagine the HDD's will last AT LEAST another 50 years because people will still do backups and I recommend you get a HDD, even if you hate them for backups. You can put data on them but be sure the data you put on them is not data that you use everyday. My whole family is still using HDD's BTW, im the ONLY guy that has an SSD and even tho I can see the difference, you can still live with a HDD. But even the SSD looks a little slow, so... next year ill probably upgrade to a NVME SSD just to test out. 

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3 minutes ago, Carlos1010 said:

SSD are still really expensive nowadays, hard drives are still good and will still be good in the future. Remember that my dad, all his life he worked for a big tech company and he used to back up ALL his data on cassette tapes, yes, CASSETTE TAPES! Like not the ones that you think, the consumer grade ones like the LTO 7. So I imagine the HDD's will last AT LEAST another 50 years because people will still do backups and I recommend you get a HDD, even if you hate them for backups. You can put data on them but be sure the data you put on them is not data that you use everyday. My whole family is still using HDD's BTW, im the ONLY guy that has an SSD and even tho I can see the difference, you can still live with a HDD. But even the SSD looks a little slow, so... next year ill probably upgrade to a NVME SSD just to test out. 

They'll be around for a while, sure, but 50 years?  I think that might be a bit of a stretch... think how far we've come in the last 50 years and the fact that each year we make more progress than the last.

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50 years

eh, at least 25

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12 minutes ago, poopy said:

well im trying to do a pc desk completely water cooled but i dotn want to water cool the hdds and the rads will be in a diff section so it would be 100% dust proof

you still need to cool the motherboard

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6 minutes ago, Carlos1010 said:

eh, at least 25

hard drives max out at 10 years. oldest one ive seen somewhat still working had to have its motor spun up by hand. It might be different if you only switch them on for back up purposes.

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Just now, SCHISCHKA said:

hard drives max out at 10 years. oldest one ive seen somewhat still working had to have its motor spun up by hand. It might be different if you only switch them on for back up purposes.

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8 minutes ago, SCHISCHKA said:

you still need to cool the motherboard

yeah i theres a complete mobo block for the x99 sabertooth

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