Data Encryption vs Government Backdoor Your Thoughts/Opinion

[Tech_Dreamer]

 

Lets talk about hardware & software based data encryption, Since it's been a while since there has been a heavy debate over it, & we're kinda afar from the initial hype to see things a bit clearly , what do you feel about it at this point ?

 

 

 

Topics to discuss ( pick one & put your view on the comment or just put up a general comment )

• Access to any user encrypted data through the means of backdoor by the governing body upon request under nature of suspicion,  is it Good or Bad in your opinion?
• Encrypted user data should be encrypted from all forms prying eyes government /hackers/3rdparty etc
• Data Encryption should be illegal as it can & will be used for bad things
• Data Encryption should be allowed to deter 3rd party access , but government should have a backdoor in place
• Allow encryption , But metadata should be allowed for view for government to deter threats
• Should be encrypted & Only allow data access with user consent along with court approval regardless of time taken & shouldn't be accessed otherwise if there's a break in that chain
• User shouldn't have right to conceal data since it could be threatening to the community/state/ethical standards/Espionage/Trade secrets
• Only Government registered employees should have the right to concrete level of hard encryption without any backdoor & shouldn't be made available to private use
• Government should have the right to backdoor regardless of the ethical reasons because bigger picture is more important & safety should be a priority

 

 

Other Discussion points:

• Ethics of Government having a backdoor on hardware which can be used to access data depending on the nature of an event ( access after specific event has happened / a confirmed suspect data access)
• General Backdoor Access to authority to preemptive investigation in-order to deter threats or general (anytime open access to covertly scan & determine threats before it becomes harmful to a community/state/country)
• Should encryption & refusal to share confidential data to anyone be a 'right' for the wrong reasons?
• individual privacy vs government safety assurance

 

You know how not to act, please discuss in a professional manner if possible,

 

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[brandishwar]

It's quite simple: any "back door" into an encryption system to allow government entry merely invites intrusion. Individual privacy trumps any assurance of government safety. Your right to privacy, your right to protection against searches and seizures is so sacred that, at least in the US, it's enshrined in the Constitution, and has been continuously upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States. So much so that the government cannot force you to submit to a blood test without first getting a warrant from the Court.

 

Since the government can't just arbitrarily enter your home, the same with your private information. It's as simple as that. After all, would you send your private information through the postal service written on a postcard that anyone can read? Electronic communication is no different. The envelope is all that's changed.

[Railgun]

Those who trade freedom for security deserve neither.

[Enderman]

You mentioned "ethics" and "government" in the same sentence multiple times...not good not good.

[AresKrieger]

Well I don't think they should have a back door for 2 reasons, 1) it makes a security hole that any decent hacker will be able to find with enough effort, and 2) it's pointless since making an encryption algorithm is rather simple thus any back door is useless if the person being investigated knows how to code

 

Also I generally want to avoid helping the government abuse power whenever possible, so giving them the ability to break encryption on a whim seems ill advised, a skeleton key is too easy to abuse.

[bob345]

Doesn't matter if its for the government. A backdoor is a backdoor. If it exists, it will be used and abused by third parties. You put in a back door you compromise your security. This isnt even a discussion, if you want to add a vulnerability to your encryption, you might as well not use it at all.

[Mira Yurizaki]

A backdoor will be sought after by hackers and once it's found, the game's over. It's like leaving an unlocked door in your house that says "Government use only". Like criminals are going to care.

[2FA]

Secure encryption and backdoor are not two words that belong together. If the encryption algorithm has a backdoor, then it isn't a secure algorithm and here's why.

 

1. Possible for the government or a contractor to accidentally leak the master key. Once that happens, it free reign among all hackers, scripters, and the likes.
2. What happens if foreign government manages to hack it's way into the network? They could potentially steal the key that way. You may say that keeping it on an isolated network is secure but in reality it isn't. There are tools that let you cross air gaps into isolated LANs.
3. There is the potential of individuals in the government to abuse the masterkey. There are many cases of Secret Service agents and members of other agencies using their position to spy on loved ones. That is a clear breach of protocol, ethics, and law. 

I understand the reasoning behind wanting a backdoor but encryption isn't like a physical lock where you can have restricted physical access. Anyone in theory can access the encrypted data and if they have the key as well, you lost your last line of defense. That encryption standard is now worthless and all research you put into it was in vain.

[PianoPlayer88Key]

I'm with those that say secure encryption should not have a backdoor.

 

Also, I think, if it (anything)'s illegal for we the people, it should also be illegal for the government / law enforcement / etc.  If it's legal for the government / law enforcement / etc, it should be legal for we the people.

 

And I agree with @Railgun.

[Canada EH]

On 9/21/2016 at 9:28 PM, Tech_Dreamer said:

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[matrix07012]

It's not secure if it has a backdoor so no.

[Scruffy90]

Two things will happen, new encryption method will arise and be locked down, backdoor to encryption will instantly be found and abused by everyone.

[Xanthe_2871]

I believe there should be no backdoor, but there will be. Of course there will be. At this point, we can't realistically do anything to stop the government from destroying our privacy. But that's ok, I believe people will eventually get used to it, right or wrong, I think future generations will accept the lack of privacy and that will just be how life is. It's not ideal, but if everyone (or most people) is used to it, then they will still be happy. 

 

That's my 2 cents.

[Canada EH]

Thats why you buy Apple!!!!

 

 

[Thunderpup]

Considering how often the U.S government's own systems have been hacked over the past few years.  They, or any other country's government, shouldn't be requiring any sort of back door access.

[Canada EH]

Hillary Clintons server was an open door.