Tesla Release 100kWh Option for Model S and X

[oliverguy]

Source: http://uk.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-announces-p100d-battery-for-tesla-model-x-and-model-s-2016-8?r=US&IR=T

Source: https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/blog/new-tesla-model-s-now-quickest-production-car-world

 

There is now a 100kWh battery for the Model s and x.

 

It's a $20,000USD upgrade for current owners and anyone who has a P90D on order can get it for $10,000USD. This price difference is because they have to pay to recycle the old ones.

 

This will give the Model S a range of 315 miles and the X a range of 289 miles. This makes the Model S the longest range EV and the only one over 300 miles and the model X the on SUV EV. The ranges are on the EPA cycle.

 

With this new battery comes a speed upgrade, the Model S P100D will do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds, making it the third quickest accelerating production car on the planet, right behind the LaFerrari and Porsche 918 who are at 2nd and 1st respectively. The Model X will now do 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.

 

As Tesla points out the 918 and LaFerrari are both limited run - 918 and 499 units respectively - so are not in the slightest bit comparable to the Model S.

[ThinkWithPortals]

4 minutes ago, oliverguy said:

It's a $20,000USD upgrade

Ouch! That's a big hit to the wallet, even for a Tesla buyer.

 

Also, might want to reconsider your wording:

5 minutes ago, oliverguy said:

making it the third fastest production car on the planet

It's not the "third fastest production car," it's the "third fastest accelerating production car." "Third fastest production car" implies that it's top speed is third highest of any car, when it isn't.

[oliverguy]

5 minutes ago, ThinkWithPortals said:

Ouch! That's a big hit to the wallet, even for a Tesla buyer.

 

Also, might want to reconsider your wording:

It's not the "third fastest production car," it's the "third fastest accelerating production car." "Third fastest production car" implies that it's top speed is third highest of any car, when it isn't.

 

Yeah, 20k a lot for what's really a marginal increase in range, dont think very many will be able to justify the extra cost for only a few extra miles, most journeys are under a 100 anyway so it probably isnt even relevant for a lot of people.

 

Also I fixed my wording error thanks. 

[Curufinwe_wins]

9 minutes ago, oliverguy said:

Yeah, 20k a lot for what's really a marginal increase in range, dont think very many will be able to justify the extra cost for only a few extra miles, most journeys are under a 100 anyway so it probably isnt even relevant for a lot of people.

 

Also I fixed my wording error thanks. 

I mean if you are coming from a first gen model s with a 65kwh battery, it could be almost a 50% increase in range. Pretty nice to me. And it's not like tesla are cheap in the first place.

[ZestyJalapeno]

Has Tesla released the carbon footprint for the manufacturing of a typical car sale for them?

[oliverguy]

1 minute ago, Curufinwe_wins said:

I mean if you are coming from a first gen model s with a 65kwh battery, it could be almost a 50% increase in range. Pretty nice to me. And it's not like tesla are cheap in the first place.

 

I guess so, I wasn't really thinking about it like that. But you've got to consider that is this a 20k lump sum, this isn't financed in any way (or at least to my knowledge) I doubt very many Model S 60 owners (a 50kUSD car used) have 20k to drop all in one go on a battery.

[oliverguy]

2 minutes ago, Dogeystyle said:

Has Tesla released the carbon footprint for the manufacturing of a typical car sale for them?

I dont recall anything official but a google search turned up a Forbes article...

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/04/22/the-carbon-footprint-of-tesla-manufacturing/#39163e3e14d5 

[ZestyJalapeno]

4 minutes ago, oliverguy said:

I dont recall anything official but a google search turned up a Forbes article...

 

http://www.forbes.com/sites/quora/2016/04/22/the-carbon-footprint-of-tesla-manufacturing/#39163e3e14d5 

They don't say anything in that specifically, but they do quote a very reliable report.

http://www.ucsusa.org/sites/default/files/attach/2015/11/Cleaner-Cars-from-Cradle-to-Grave-full-report.pdf

 

It summarises that a large BEV, which the Tesla falls under, will on average produce less GG emissions despite increased manufacturing carbon cost. It estimates that on a 'dirty' power grid, the manufacturing costs will be offset within 39,000 miles. On a renewable power grid, the manufacturing costs will be offset within 16,000 miles. Those are very reasonable figures. Bear in mind that on average a BEV will drive 135,000 miles for the total lifetime of the vehicle, and the environmental friendliness of the vehicle becomes more apparent. Tesla should use that in its marketing.

 

This is the car of the future. Now only if all these legislators stop receiving money from carmakers, petroleum companies and such and start a high-speed metro link between cities, districts and actually compete with the flying industry then perhaps California wouldn't drought itself to death in 20 years.

[Curufinwe_wins]

21 minutes ago, oliverguy said:

I guess so, I wasn't really thinking about it like that. But you've got to consider that is this a 20k lump sum, this isn't financed in any way (or at least to my knowledge) I doubt very many Model S 60 owners (a 50kUSD car used) have 20k to drop all in one go on a battery.

No, but it may be worth it for some of the users.

[The Benjamins]

1 hour ago, oliverguy said:

With this new battery comes a speed upgrade, the Model S P100D will do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds, making it the third fastest production car on the planet, right behind the LaFerrari and Porsche 918 who are at 2nd and 1st respectively. The Model X will now do 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.

 

As Tesla points out the 918 and LaFerrari are both limited run - 918 and 499 respectively - so are not in the slightest bit comparable to the Model S.

Ariel Atom 3.5 can do 0-60 in 2.6  TMI automotive makes 100 a year for USA only. (don't know how many is made in the UK facility)

[captain cactus]

Can we just have a 100kWh option without the ridiculous hyperdrive strapped in the rear? I just wanna go as far as possible. Even if it takes me more-than-hypercar seconds to get to 100 km/h. The P90D has a reduced range over the normal 90D, don't see why we can't have a normal 100D. Way less expensive as well, too.

[Tech_Dreamer]

http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/08/tesla-model-s-france-battery-fire/

[pagani123]

sorry for the double post not sure why it happened. mod please remove

[pagani123]

3 hours ago, oliverguy said:

Source: http://uk.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-announces-p100d-battery-for-tesla-model-x-and-model-s-2016-8?r=US&IR=T

Source: https://www.tesla.com/en_GB/blog/new-tesla-model-s-now-quickest-production-car-world

 

There is now a 100kWh battery for the Model s and x.

 

It's a $20,000USD upgrade for current owners and anyone who has a P90D on order can get it for $10,000USD. This price difference is because they have to pay to recycle the old ones.

 

This will give the Model S a range of 315 miles and the X a range of 289 miles. This makes the Model S the longest range EV and the only one over 300 miles and the model X the on SUV EV. The ranges are on the EPA cycle.

 

With this new battery comes a speed upgrade, the Model S P100D will do 0-60 in 2.5 seconds, making it the third quickest accelerating production car on the planet, right behind the LaFerrari and Porsche 918 who are at 2nd and 1st respectively. The Model X will now do 0-60 in 2.9 seconds.

 

As Tesla points out the 918 and LaFerrari are both limited run - 918 and 499 units respectively - so are not in the slightest bit comparable to the Model S.

Quickest current production car. Tesla actually stated that those cars are no longer in production not that they are both limited run. They have made enough units to be considered a production car. (you need more than 35 to be considered a production car)

@The Benjamins the ariel atom 3.5 does it in 2.7-3.0 seconds. you are thinking of the atom 500. But i do not believe enough were made to classify it as a production car. Also this is claimed never actually tested for some reason.

[unijab]

Screw turning the old one in.. keep it and build a DIY powerwall/ DIY UPS with it.

[awesomeness10120]

It's good to see Tesla constantly improving their battery tech... soon it will be with the Model 3... soon... 

[farhanorakzai]

On August 23, 2016 at 3:04 PM, Curufinwe_wins said:

I mean if you are coming from a first gen model s with a 65kwh battery, it could be almost a 50% increase in range. Pretty nice to me. And it's not like tesla are cheap in the first place.

 

On August 23, 2016 at 3:08 PM, oliverguy said:

I guess so, I wasn't really thinking about it like that. But you've got to consider that is this a 20k lump sum, this isn't financed in any way (or at least to my knowledge) I doubt very many Model S 60 owners (a 50kUSD car used) have 20k to drop all in one go on a battery.

You can only upgrade to a 100kwh battery pack if you already have a P90D ludicrous. P90DL is the only car that can be upgraded to a P100DL. Ps. there is no 65kwh pack on the Model S, the first gen Model S was either 40kwh (software locked 60) a 60kwh or an 85kwh battery pack after which they replaced the 60 with the 70, and then a few months later, replaced the 70 with the 75kwh and replaced the 85 with the 90kwh battery pack

[farhanorakzai]

On August 23, 2016 at 4:27 PM, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Can we just have a 100kWh option without the ridiculous hyperdrive strapped in the rear? I just wanna go as far as possible. Even if it takes me more-than-hypercar seconds to get to 100 km/h. The P90D has a reduced range over the normal 90D, don't see why we can't have a normal 100D. Way less expensive as well, too.

100D is coming later. Elon said they're only focusing on the performance versions of the 100kwh packs right now