Top Tier 980ti vs Cheap 1070?

[Toto123456]

Just upgraded my monitor to PG279Q (previously had xl2420z with GTX 970)

 

Looking for £300-£400, budget GPU that is capable of pushing pass 100fps+ for most FPS multiplayer games (CSGO, the new BF, BF4, COD, Overwatch) , and 60fps high-ultra triple A games (eg. Far cry primal).

 

980Ti are now having a massive discount, the zotac 980ti I found was £319 but it is now out of stock :(, so now I can only get my hands on Strix, EVGA SC FTW, Matrix (non platinum), MSI, G1, Inno3D For £360. All these are one of the fastest 980ti around eventho it is not classified, hydro, seahawk version.

 

1070 is still a bit expensive imo, £369 for palit, and other reputable brands (Asus, EVGA, MSI) are all £430+ all the way to £529. for that price I should probably pay £100 extra for a 1080 (palit)

 

The benchmark I found are pretty close but the 1070 edges out on most game but only by a few fps. (Could be due to poor OC 980ti aswell)

 

so my question is what is better for 1440p and future game? A cheap as* 1070 (palit, ref cooler) or 980Ti with sick cooler?

Will 980ti be affected by future nvidia driver update?

[PCGuy_5960]

A 1070 is better at DX12 and consumes wayyyy less power! In addition, it's newer, so Nvidia will optimise for it for a longer time... 

[GirlFromYonder]

2 minutes ago, Toto123456 said:

Just upgraded my monitor to PG279Q (previously had xl2420z with GTX 970)

 

Looking for £300-£400, budget GPU that is capable of pushing pass 100fps+ for most FPS multiplayer games (CSGO, the new BF, BF4, COD, Overwatch) , and 60fps high-ultra triple A games (eg. Far cry primal).

 

980Ti are now having a massive discount, the zotac 980ti I found was £319 but it is now out of stock :(, so now I can only get my hands on Strix, EVGA SC FTW, Matrix (non platinum), MSI, G1, Inno3D For £360. All these are one of the fastest 980ti around eventho it is not classified, hydro, seahawk version.

 

1070 is still a bit expensive imo, £369 for palit, and other reputable brands (Asus, EVGA, MSI) are all £430+ all the way to £529. for that price I should probably pay £100 extra for a 1080 (palit)

 

The benchmark I found are pretty close but the 1070 edges out on most game but only by a few fps. (Could be due to poor OC 980ti aswell)

 

so my question is what is better for 1440p and future game? A cheap as* 1070 (palit, ref cooler) or 980Ti with sick cooler?

Will 980ti be affected by future nvidia driver update?

for now. gtx 980ti, for later gtx 1070, nvidia de optimaizes its older gpus

[Toto123456]

5 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

A 1070 is better at DX12 and consumes wayyyy less power! In addition, it's newer, so Nvidia will optimise for it for a longer time... 

true about DX12, the power consumption is overrated imo, unless i game 5h+ a day, i dont think I will notice a different.

 

overall 980ti is still a lot cheaper, roughly £70 for the same cooler, that is 20% different in price unless I cheap out and go with ref/ or palit 1070.

[PCGuy_5960]

2 minutes ago, Toto123456 said:

true about DX12, the power consumption is overrated imo, unless i game 5h+ a day, i dont think I will notice a different.

 

overall 980ti is still a lot cheaper, roughly £70 for the same cooler, that is 20% different in price unless I cheap out and go with ref/ or palit 1070.

Well, the power consumption helps when you have let's say, a 500W PSU.... You can run SLI 1070s with a 600W PSU, something that you can't do with 980 Tis.... 

[PCGuy_5960]

In the long run the GTX 1070 is going to be better than the 980 Ti... Because more and more games support DX12 and Vulkan...

 

And Nvidia will no longer optimize for Maxwell, since Pascal is out.... So, it's up to you... 

[Kadleli]

6 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Well, the power consumption helps when you have let's say, a 500W PSU.... You can run SLI 1070s with a 600W PSU, something that you can't do with 980 Tis.... 

2 1070 in sli with a 500w psu seems a little bit dangerous

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Kadleli said:

2 1070 in sli with a 500w psu seems a little bit dangerous

I said, SLI 1070s with a 600W... 

And a single 1070 with a 500W...

[Kadleli]

Just now, PCGuy_5960 said:

I said, SLI 1070s with a 600W... 

And a single 1070 with a 500W...

ah right, my bad

[Toto123456]

4 minutes ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

I said, SLI 1070s with a 600W... 

And a single 1070 with a 500W...

I dont intend to SLI/CF again ever, used to CF 290x, but sold both card for a single 970. a bunch of heat problems, very loud, long wait for driver update.

 

even if i want to, i have a 750w psu which will easily handle 2x980ti. (it was £9 more 550w vs 750w so i got it just in case)

[PCGuy_5960]

Just now, Toto123456 said:

I dont intend to SLI/CF again ever, used to CF 290x, but sold both card for a single 970. a bunch of heat problems, very loud, long wait for driver update.

 

even if i want to, i have a 750w psu which will easily handle 2x980ti. (it was £9 more 550w vs 750w so i got it just in case)

Buy whichever is cheaper aka 980 Ti... If you really want to be "Futureproof" buy the 1070, as it is better at DX12 

[ripPCagh]

You should get a 980 TI (used or b stock from evga) over any 1080/1070 model

 

unless... you plan to get heavy into VR (the only place the 1080 is superior to the 980 ti).         And down the line throw in another 980 TI SLI for 4k gaming if you feel like it..  

 

Neither are a 1 card solution for 4k gaming @ 60+ fps, both will handle everything you need and more, cost efficiancy ..... no question 980 TI unless you plan on getting into VR.

[Toto123456]

44 minutes ago, ripPCagh said:

You should get a 980 TI (used or b stock from evga) over any 1080/1070 model

 

unless... you plan to get heavy into VR (the only place the 1080 is superior to the 980 ti).         And down the line throw in another 980 TI SLI for 4k gaming if you feel like it..  

 

Neither are a 1 card solution for 4k gaming @ 60+ fps, both will handle everything you need and more, cost efficiancy ..... no question 980 TI unless you plan on getting into VR.

thanks for your input. I just pulled the trigger on EVGA FTW 980Ti, was gonna go with Strix for the same price but my build is black/ white/ gun metal build with white LEDs. OC ability is probably down to luck and evga has great customer support.

 

i still think the 1080 is great for 1440p, true it might be able to play at 4k but is no way 'butter smooth' (for AAA titles anyway). For the price of a 980Ti, I am willing to drop settings to high to get 80fps+ on AAA titles anyway, I am a fps junkie.

Never like the VR, I think VR is still new and too far away. look at 4k, it has been around for years now, and is yet to be main stream.

[Lays]

4 hours ago, DeezNoNos said:

for now. gtx 980ti, for later gtx 1070, nvidia de optimaizes its older gpus

They don't "deoptimize"  anything, they just stop making it the main focus of optimization and make their current generation  the main focus. 

[Renton577]

980ti should be fine, I'm still rocking a Titan Black and it does just fine. Since the 980ti is close to the very top from last gen you should be fine for a while, my card still does fine with every game at 1440P maxed, 4K is a different beast though so keep that in mind.

[Toto123456]

7 minutes ago, Lays said:

They don't "deoptimize"  anything, they just stop making it the main focus of optimization and make their current generation  the main focus. 

would love to see how much different 780ti is now compared to 980 in current game. from the top of my head they are neck and neck when it first came out

[Lays]

3 hours ago, Toto123456 said:

would love to see how much different 780ti is now compared to 980 in current game. from the top of my head they are neck and neck when it first came out

The 980 would win, considering further optimization went into the 980 while the 780 ti would of received less.  But the performance that the 780 ti received back then shouldn't be different.  When I had one a while back, older drivers and "nerfed drivers"  performed very similar to each other, no noticeable like missing 10 fps like people were complaining about lol

[| Rembo |]

17 hours ago, Toto123456 said:

true about DX12, the power consumption is overrated imo, unless i game 5h+ a day, i dont think I will notice a different.

 

overall 980ti is still a lot cheaper, roughly £70 for the same cooler, that is 20% different in price unless I cheap out and go with ref/ or palit 1070.

less power consumption really helps with heat so the 1070 will run cooler than the 980ti and so maybe even lasting longer

[GirlFromYonder]

1 hour ago, | Rembo | said:

less power consumption really helps with heat so the 1070 will run cooler than the 980ti and so maybe even lasting longer

the last longer part is wrong as a the 980ti was made to be that hot

[Praesi]

19 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

 

 

And Nvidia will no longer optimize for Maxwell, since Pascal is out.... So, it's up to you... 

Thats Nonsense.

[PCGuy_5960]

5 minutes ago, Praesi said:

Thats Nonsense.

Okay, then how do you explain that the 780 Ti performs as good as the 970 while hardware wise it's more powerful.... The same will happen with the 980 Ti and the 1070... I meant to say that Nvidia will not optimize much and thus performance will be pretty similar 

[xAcid9]

1 hour ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Okay, then how do you explain that the 780 Ti performs as good as the 970 while hardware wise it's more powerful.... The same will happen with the 980 Ti and the 1070... I meant to say that Nvidia will not optimize much and thus performance will be pretty similar 

Maxwell is significantly different compare to Kepler and Pascal is just a "complete Maxwell" since they had to strip some of "Maxwell" features to make it viable to produce with 28nm because TSMC 20nm is still not ready that time. Of course they did add few more improvement in Pascal but it's not really that significant improvement.
 

[Praesi]

6 hours ago, PCGuy_5960 said:

Okay, then how do you explain that the 780 Ti performs as good as the 970 while hardware wise it's more powerful.... The same will happen with the 980 Ti and the 1070... I meant to say that Nvidia will not optimize much and thus performance will be pretty similar 

A new Generation always beginns where the last Generation stopped. I dont see the surprise here.

[Darkseth]

Only if the top tier 980 ti is at least 70-80+ Bucks cheaper.

Otherwise, i would get the newest. Almost 100 watt less power consumption, 8gb vs. 6gb, newer architecture, etc.

[Bhav]

Oh wow, the Zotacs sold out fast with the lower prices:

 

https://www.overclockers.co.uk/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia/geforce-gtx-980-ti

 

I got my Amp Omegas back when they were £350, and the Amp Extreme was £400. I found theres no difference between the two as the Omegas still clock to the Extreme's speed.