PSU Tier List [OLD]

[comicsansms]

9 minutes ago, KillerGamingBro said:

From what I've seen, they make their own PSU's.

https://whirlpool.net.au/wiki/psu_manufacturers

And as for the certification, this site on cougars website states it has the certification.

http://cougargaming.com/products/psus/ste/

I can assure you, Cougar is a brand and Cougar doesn't make their own PSU's and Cougar's Parent Company (HEC) doesn't always make them either.

 

If you look at cougars website, there is NO mention of 80plus certification, just that it is "Up to 83% efficient" (under 230V), the minimum peak efficiency for 230V 80plus certification is 85% efficiency at 50% load. 

[KillerGamingBro]

2 minutes ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

I can assure you, Cougar is a brand and Cougar doesn't make their own PSU's and Cougar's Parent Company (HEC) doesn't always make them with.

 

If you look at cougars website, there is NO mention of 80plus certification, just that it is "Up to 83% efficient" (under 230V), the minimum peak efficiency for 230V 80plus certification is 85% efficiency at 50% load. 

 

Thank you for enlightening me, I don't know much about PSU's. 

A website listed this PSU as 80+ which confused me.

After this, I will go with a higher model, maybe the STX or the VTE

[comicsansms]

8 minutes ago, KillerGamingBro said:

Thank you for enlightening me, I don't know much about PSU's. 

A website listed this PSU as 80+ which confused me.

After this, I will go with a higher model, maybe the STX or the VTE

What is it powering? Where are you from? How much money can you spend? How much would you like to spend? 

[Mr.Meerkat]

I just realised how ADMI (AKA AWD-IT) "scammed" me, they didn't send me a XFX XTS 1kW but instead the older Pro Series 1kW limited black edition 80+ plat rated...agh, must send them to court! /jk 

 

I mean it's older and all but it's still a decent performer and is still made by SS with the high quality components and soldering we exp...hold on, Johnny Guru's had some bad soldering in their unit, ah well, it's basically got the same specs as the XTS and internally, it almost looks like it's using the same platform and layout....

Spoiler

Pro Series Limited edition 1kW internals

 

XFX XTS 1kW internals 

 

To be fair, I don't blame AWD-IT for getting it wrong, even XFX's own website uses the wrong picture  

And let's not forget that I only paid 130 quid for it...where a XTS costs around 155-160 (so saved a little).

[Energycore]

9 hours ago, KillerGamingBro said:

Could you guys put the Cougar STE series on the list? Thanks in Advance

 

Cougar is the brand name of HEC, and cheap HEC PSUs are not something I would trust.

[Energycore]

8 hours ago, KillerGamingBro said:

A website listed this PSU as 80+ which confused me.

It's certified as 80+ only in 230V input. That means it can't do 80+ in 115V. Still, don't get it

[KillerGamingBro]

 

10 hours ago, Comic_Sans_MS said:

What is it powering? Where are you from? How much money can you spend? How much would you like to spend? 

Check My Signature.

Australia.

About 50-75 AUD.

[Energycore]

7 hours ago, KillerGamingBro said:

 

Check My Signature.

Australia.

About 50-75 AUD.

Oh cool. Well since you have an R9 280X, I would spend no less than $90 on this PSU.

 

http://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/2tckcf/xfx-power-supply-xfxts550w

[STRMfrmXMN]

7 hours ago, KillerGamingBro said:

 

Check My Signature.

Australia.

About 50-75 AUD.

290Xs are probably the most volatile GPU in terms of heat that's still viable today. I'd highly recommend packing your lunch for an extra week (metaphorical, just save 10 bucks somehow) and get that XFX listed by Energycore above.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

290Xs are probably the most volatile GPU in terms of heat that's still viable today. I'd highly recommend packing your lunch for an extra week (metaphorical, just save 10 bucks somehow) and get that XFX listed by Energycore above.

I was wrong, it's a 280X.

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

I was wrong, it's a 280X.

RIP he even sent me a PM with his specs and I didn't see it was the same guy

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

RIP he even sent me a PM with his specs and I didn't see it was the same guy

Sorry typo

 

BTW can you take a look at the Hydro X? I'm sure we looked at it and said T3, but it's not on the list.

[STRMfrmXMN]

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Sorry typo

 

BTW can you take a look at the Hydro X? I'm sure we looked at it and said T3, but it's not on the list.

I thought I added it...?
 

Eh, I'll add it.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, STRMfrmXMN said:

I thought I added it...?
 

Eh, I'll add it.

Maybe I'm blind?

 

I see it now

[Starelementpoke]

3 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Huh? http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=431

 

@Energycore @Starelementpoke

He's intentionally left things out and not factored them into score. It stays in 6.

[Mr.Meerkat]

3 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Huh? http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=431

 

@Energycore @Starelementpoke

To be fair, it's a decent unit for what it costs and what it is but it still uses kinda bad components thus it's possible for it to blowwwwww  

 

Quote

And I'm definitely not scoring capacitors the same way

I think that sums it up why it got a decent score  

[Energycore]

14 minutes ago, wrathoftheturkey said:

Huh? http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story6&reid=431

 

@Energycore @Starelementpoke

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2015/02/19/evga_430w_power_supply_review/3

 

It's double forward + group regulated. Regardless of electrical performance usually such topology knockn a PSU one tier off (look at the NEX for instance), because it's terrible at crossloading.

 

Also while efficiency isn't as important, anything below 80+ Bronze is going to be dissipating enough heat to affect the longevity of the capacitors inside (or it will be really loud, take your pick). This unit calls itself 80+, but actually fails to hit those standards in both JG and HardOCP's review

 

HardOCP tests at 100V for some reason. But any PSU with PFC should be able to handle it, and the EVGA 430W didn't. If you're living in a place with 115V mains and any amount of voltage drop happens you're not gonna be happy with this thing

 

I think Paul from HardOCP's conclusions show exactly why it's still in Tier 6

[Guest]

TIER 0?

 

[Starelementpoke]

17 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

TIER 0?

 

For the record  @STRMfrmXMN

@Energycore called it first.

[Mr.Meerkat]

20 minutes ago, deXxterlab97 said:

TIER 0?

Or tier 1000 cause it costs $1k...

 

What the duck was CM thinking? I can't see a reason why anyone would spend more than triple over what a seasonic prime 1kW 80+ Titanium costs* (well we know what the 850watt version costs and what the 750watt version so it's not that hard to guess what it would cost no? ) unless the CM has such good ripple control that it's 1mV on all rails at any load, 98.5%+ efficiency, uses diamond made capacitors, uses solder made out of gold ect. ect...

 

Edit: Also rip english

[Starelementpoke]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Or tier 1000 cause it costs $1k...

 

What the duck was CM thinking? I can't see a reason why anyone would spend more than triple over what a seasonic prime 1kW 80+ Titanium costs* (well we know what the 850watt version costs and what the 750watt version so it's not that hard to guess what it would cost no? ) unless the CM has such good ripple that it's 1mV on all rails at any load, 98.5%+ efficiency, uses diamond made capacitors, uses solder made out of gold ect. ect...

Remember, we don't factor price.

[Energycore]

1 minute ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Or tier 1000 cause it costs $1k...

 

What the duck was CM thinking? I can't see a reason why anyone would spend more than triple over what a seasonic prime 1kW 80+ Titanium costs* (well we know what the 850watt version costs and what the 750watt version so it's not that hard to guess what it would cost no? ) unless the CM has such good ripple that it's 1mV on all rails at any load, 98.5%+ efficiency, uses diamond made capacitors, uses solder made out of gold ect. ect...

Actually the Seasonic Prime 850W was pushed up to something like 1250W By techpowerup and load regulation, efficiency and ripple were still amazing. Seasonic underrated this unit for reviews' sake.

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, Starelementpoke said:

Remember, we don't factor price.

I know...but you know, it should be just tier ∞

 

1 minute ago, Energycore said:

Actually the Seasonic Prime 850W was pushed up to something like 1250W By techpowerup and load regulation, efficiency and ripple were still amazing. Seasonic underrated this unit for reviews' sake.

Well they charge top bucks for their titanium rated prime (flagship) PSUs so...it should perform like the best  

 

On a side note, this just makes their gold and plat line of Prime PSUs sound even more interesting, I doubt they'll sacrifice that much on the gold and plat ones...

[vanished]

47 minutes ago, Mr.Meerkat said:

Or tier 1000 cause it costs $1k...

 

What the duck was CM thinking? I can't see a reason why anyone would spend more than triple over what a seasonic prime 1kW 80+ Titanium costs* (well we know what the 850watt version costs and what the 750watt version so it's not that hard to guess what it would cost no? ) unless the CM has such good ripple control that it's 1mV on all rails at any load, 98.5%+ efficiency, uses diamond made capacitors, uses solder made out of gold ect. ect...

 

Edit: Also rip english

Yeah this had me thinking too... the impression I got from the video is that there was a lot of work put into this thing, but what I didn't get from that video was an explanation as to where it all went. Sure, what they described all sounded high end but not $1000 high end... I think we're missing something and that might become apparently later.  Maybe there's a lifetime warranty or something special like that?

[Mr.Meerkat]

1 minute ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Maybe there's a lifetime warranty or something special like that?

Lifetime warranty still isn't enough for a $1K PSU...

I'd bet that a SS prime Titanium would be able to last as long as the CM $1K PSU so...

 

I guess we'll find out soon once reviewers get their hands on some