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Tesla driver gets killed with AutoPilot active

I don't get how this can happen. You have to touch the wheel every 30 seconds otherwise it beeps and slows down and pulls to the shoulder. I blame the driver on this one. People expect it to be self driver but auto pilot is, is cruise control for the wheel. You wouldn't use cruise control in a city street now would you?

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18 minutes ago, AresKrieger said:

In the future it may be (better that is), but lets say we run into one of those moral dilemmas where you either put yourself in grave danger or others such as pedestrians, which does the car choose, I know I'm not driving into a wall to save a jaywalker who came out of now where, but the car might.

aka "the trolley problem".

A slightly revised one.

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Driver still at fault, he should have been ready to step in, the autopilot isn't designed to be used alone yet.

 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SamStrecker said:

I don't get how this can happen. You have to touch the wheel every 30 seconds otherwise it beeps and slows down and pulls to the shoulder. I blame the driver on this one. People expect it to be self driver but auto pilot is, is cruise control for the wheel. You wouldn't use cruise control in a city street now would you?

He was on a highway.

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2 hours ago, Nineshadow said:

He was on a highway.

When you are driving a car do you look at your phone and read a book. No, you are in control of the vehicle checking mirrors every so often. If you do this with auto pilot nothing would happen. But people think they can just let the car to everything and die

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1 hour ago, Cracklingice said:

Until the Government assures me that self driving won't be outlawed or made cost prohibitive as a result - let the idea burn.
Also that the cars won't personally identify you, lock you in the car and drive you straight to the police station any time they want you there.

I don't care if the government assures me or not, there is no way I will get in a car even that has the capability to do that.

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5 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

"Autopilot"? I wasn't aware that Tesla had commercial self-driving cards. I thought what they had was more like a type of cruise control...

That's what it is supposed to be used as, but people don't often take it that seriously.

There's something cool here - you just can't see it.

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4 minutes ago, Nineshadow said:

aka "the trolley problem".

A slightly revised one.

More or less, just the decision is made prior to the situation, or based on coding guidelines like "do the least harm"

6 minutes ago, othertomperson said:

"Autopilot"? I wasn't aware that Tesla had commercial self-driving cards. I thought what they had was more like a type of cruise control...

No, you're right it is glorified cruise control.

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1 minute ago, SamStrecker said:

When you are driving a car do you look at your phone and read a book. No, you are in control of the vehicle checking mirrors every so often. If you do this with auto pilot nothing would happen. But people think they can just let the car to everything and die

Well of course. That's why the legislation still doesn't really allow stuff like these in Europe.

Just pointing out that your reference to using cruise control on a city street isn't exactly on point in this case.

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3 minutes ago, brune67 said:

I don't care if the government assures me or not, there is no way I will get in a car even that has the capability to do that.

Sadly it's not all that far off.

29 minutes ago, Enderman said:

 

 

theres a reason you're not allowed to fly the plane when you go traveling

some day you wont be driving a car either

I didn't even think about the 'no fly list' applying to autonomous vehicles.  I imagine that it may apply to public use autonomous vehicles like city transit buses or other situations where it is a shared ride, but I cannot think of any reason that people who were smashed drunk and got in a fight on a plane cannot be chauffeured by a computer.  But yeah, I imagine they may actually try to come up with a no transport list.

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Considering how bad people are at statistics this will be really bad for the mass adoption of self driving cars :(

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1 hour ago, Dash Lambda said:

Except that a well developed automated system would be a better driver than you, or any other human, could ever possibly be.

Driving can be enjoyable, but people die quite often and traffic is very inefficient. The sooner this technology gets out of its infancy, the sooner that improves.

Sure, but accidents are always bound to happen, no matter the technology driving it. While most people would enjoy being driven, because they can do what they would like in that time, there would be less traffic, and there would be less deaths, I would not like to be driven. I want to drive the car myself. I'm not saying it's safer or by any means more reliable and efficient, but I enjoy driving and I would greatly dislike that pleasure taken away from me.

1 hour ago, Enderman said:

theres a reason you're not allowed to fly the plane when you go traveling

some day you wont be driving a car either

A plane is sophisticated with hundreds of buttons, controls, and gauges to read. A car has five main gauges and a few pedals, often with only a few knobs and buttons for non-essential controls. A car takes about 6 hours of class to learn because it is so simple, whereas a pilot often times take years to actually be accepted into a major airline or flight company. I think I see what you're trying to say, but quite frankly, a car is a lot easier to handle than a plane.

 

Most airplanes basically fly themselves anyway due to the amount of technology is within said airplanes, and yet they still continue to have accidents due to unforeseen circumstances. The same can be said for any piece of technology, really.

 

And while the "autonomous car" may reduce the rate of deaths and might increase the efficiency of traffic, I still do not think it would be worth it to be driven by a car instead of me driving the car.

 

Those are just my thoughts and opinions, I am not saying that my/human driving would be better in any way other than the pleasure of driving a car.

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Well, I won't know the whole story but if you trust an autopilot of a type 0 civilization, you are stupid. And I'm not saying that you deserve to die but you just did. He was a nice guy though, sorry!

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32 minutes ago, theninja35 said:

A plane is sophisticated with hundreds of buttons, controls, and gauges to read. A car has five main gauges and a few pedals, often with only a few knobs and buttons for non-essential controls. A car takes about 6 hours of class to learn because it is so simple, whereas a pilot often times take years to actually be accepted into a major airline or flight company. I think I see what you're trying to say, but quite frankly, a car is a lot easier to handle than a plane.

 

Most airplanes basically fly themselves anyway due to the amount of technology is within said airplanes, and yet they still continue to have accidents due to unforeseen circumstances. The same can be said for any piece of technology, really.

 

And while the "autonomous car" may reduce the rate of deaths and might increase the efficiency of traffic, I still do not think it would be worth it to be driven by a car instead of me driving the car.

 

Those are just my thoughts and opinions, I am not saying that my/human driving would be better in any way other than the pleasure of driving a car.

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3 minutes ago, Enderman said:

Old planes used to just be a few pedals and a steering wheel too you know...

Sure, but there were still many, many gauges (often times more than modern day airplanes) to read constantly. You also have to communicate with the control towers just to take off and land. Cars used to be even more difficult than they were now, as well, due to a lack of electronic systems. However, cars have improved and have gotten much easier to handle, so there's really no reason for a healthy person to not be able to drive a car sufficiently.

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4 minutes ago, theninja35 said:

Sure, but there were still many, many gauges (often times more than modern day airplanes) to read constantly. You also have to communicate with the control towers just to take off and land. Cars used to be even more difficult than they were now, as well, due to a lack of electronic systems. However, cars have improved and have gotten much easier to handle, so there's really no reason for a healthy person to not be able to drive a car sufficiently.

i love driving to but at the end of the day, if EVERYONE having an automated car, is safer and faster, for the better of society it will happen. 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Arty said:

i love driving to but at the end of the day, if EVERYONE having an automated car, is safer and faster, for the better of society it will happen. 

Yes, I know that it will happen at some point. I'm in agreement that it will be better for everyone, but I don't want it to happen. I'd like to drive my car everywhere.

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1 minute ago, theninja35 said:

Yes, I know that it will happen at some point. I'm in agreement that it will be better for everyone, but I don't want it to happen. I'd like to drive my car everywhere.

as long as tracks remain, im happy. :D

 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Arty said:

as long as tracks remain, im happy. :D

I have come to the conclusion that as soon as autonomous cars become the "norm", there will be a surge of people who want to become professional racing drivers. Unless the government begins to tax racing because they can...

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1 minute ago, theninja35 said:

I have come to the conclusion that as soon as autonomous cars become the "norm", there will be a surge of people who want to become professional racing drivers. Unless the government begins to tax racing because they can...

you can have relaxed track days....

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, theninja35 said:

Yes, I know that it will happen at some point. I'm in agreement that it will be better for everyone, but I don't want it to happen. I'd like to drive my car everywhere.

Well, if even a fraction of a percent of the cars on the road are driven by people, self-driving cars will have to abide. So I guess you don't have too much to worry about.

Personally, I just want to see advanced autonomous technology employed on such a massive scale. 

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The problem with smart cars and autopilot is that they're interfacing with human idiots, and not other computers.

 

 

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3 hours ago, kameshss said:

Is this tech news? I don't think so.

 

or is it?

Seriously tech news isn't just about computer parts. If it's just for that, then this section will be boring as hell. It's also relates to technology. "Scientist has found a way to terraform our moon" is part of tech news.

Back to topic. No matter how advanced that car is, nothing is perfect. No one to blame but driver error. Pilots still have to check their instruments and surrounding during autopilot. It's not like both of them leave their seats  at the same time and leave the controls unattended.

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4 hours ago, Ryan_Vickers said:

Oh great now people are going to go running away from self-driving cars again for another decade...

luckily the cars can just selfdrive after them if they did that

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