AMD Radeon RX 480 Leak

[DarkBlade2117]

48 minutes ago, LukeTim said:

The hardware generation is irrelevant.

AMD is battling at a certain level of performance, and at the moment all Nvidia has there is older hardware. The important thing is price. 980 performance for $300? That sounds good to me.

AMD is making a good move by hitting the larger chunk of the curve first. They need to build up their market share. If they can provide cards with the excellent price/performance that is rumoured, then they should take up a decent amount of the market before Nvidia can respond.

If AMD is smart they'll make the the 480 $200-$220 like current 380s and the 480x will be around $250-$270.

48 minutes ago, Valentyn said:

There is nothing new from NVIDIA to compare it to at the moment.

The 480 is supposed to compete with the 1050 ( like the 380 vs 950, 380x vs 960), which isn't here yet. It does however compare to the 980 according to AMD's slide there.


Even so we only need to wait a few hours to see what AMD has to reveal at Computex.

What? The 950 Vs 380? WHAT? The 950 never even compared to the 380, the 380 is 5-10% faster than the 960. the 380x is an irrelevant card as it isn't much better than the 380.

[TheRandomness]

7 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

If AMD is smart they'll make the the 480 $200-$220 like current 380s and the 480x will be around $250-$270.

What? The 950 Vs 380? WHAT? The 950 never even compared to the 380, the 380 is 5-10% faster than the 960. the 380x is an irrelevant card as it isn't much better than the 380.

If that does happen (which tbh, is quite likely) then 390 performance for a single 6 pin and $160 on rebate... Who wouldn't buy one?

[ivan134]

54 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

Yeah, I can get that. But if this happened because AMD mis-predicted what Nvidia was going to do, and thought we'd all go for another lap around the same general throughput, and that they could milk consumers for one more gen while being an obstacle to the already very-slowed advancement PC gaming graphics, then I'd be pissed off.

No, it happened because Vega using hbm2,  and hbm2 is not available right now. 

[DarkBlade2117]

2 minutes ago, TheRandomness said:

If that does happen (which tbh, is quite likely) then 390 performance for a single 6 pin and $160 on rebate... Who wouldn't buy one?

I wouldn't, I got a 290 as a place holder card which ( soon to spend like $250 on more upgrades ), I'll probably just yolo it and get a 490/x and CF it in DX12 names lol. Though it a good idea if they do it.

[TheRandomness]

3 minutes ago, DarkBlade2117 said:

I wouldn't, I got a 290 as a place holder card which ( soon to spend like $250 on more upgrades ), I'll probably just yolo it and get a 490/x and CF it in DX12 names lol. Though it a good idea if they do it.

Well, considering the fact that the majority of people who build custom PCs don't have money flowing out of their pockets a 480 would be very good for sub $500 builds ($400 or less with lots of rebates...).

[ivan134]

27 minutes ago, Delicieuxz said:

If it is, and if Vega isn't coming this year, then I'm going to get a 1080. That wasn't my plan, and I was hoping for a HBM2 Vega card. But I'm running a 280x, and I don't see myself waiting until next year to get a new graphics card.

 

I think AMD has picked a nice spot for their RX 480, but I think we also need something edging above a GTX 1080 right now. If Vega is next year, then it'll possibly be matched, or maybe beaten, with a 1080Ti.

 

Both Nvidia and AMD have gone about capitalizing on sales in the entirely wrong manner. They see people not buying cards that often, and so they slow down their graphics tech progression, to milk more money for each micr-step they take, and this consequently slows down what game developers are willing to do to push graphics in their games, as people won't have systems capable of running higher graphics, and they want as many people to buy their games as possible.

 

What Nvidia and AMD should be doing, and should have been doing all along, is financing a small number of AAA studios each year to add a top layer setting of envelope-pushing graphics in their games, that exceed whatever the best single GPU on the market is capable of handling. That, in turn, would lead to more people buying high-end graphics cards, letting graphics card companies make their money back, while not reducing the market for a game's sales. Nvidia claims to have spent $2.8 billion researching the GTX 1080. Well, just $40 million could fund 3 AAA studios to add a layer of graphics that would push graphics card sales beyond an additional $40.

No

[Delicieuxz]

1 minute ago, ivan134 said:

No

No

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 hour ago, VagabondWraith said:

I made a thread where Roy Taylor(?) or somebody from AMD said Polaris will be it for this year. You can check my thread history and find the info. Can't do it right now as I'm at work.

How long ago did he say it?

[SteveGrabowski0]

1 hour ago, Valentyn said:

That would be interesting, although once again a Titan without compute is just a terrible buy over the Ti under it.

Shall be interesting to see how that develops.

I think the point of the Titan series is to be an early adopters tax while they try to ramp up big die production for the GeForce 80 Ti series. I'd imagine they don't release 80 Ti parts until yields have improved significantly on their Titan series.

[samcool55]

Found the same thing but with a bit more quality

http://tieba.baidu.com/photo/p?kw=amd&ie=utf-8&flux=1&tid=4582872943&pic_id=361f0cf3d7ca7bcbabd7a5eab9096b63f724a85c&pn=1&fp=2&see_lz=1

And no watermark, i think.

Also you can see very clear now there is a cursor on it, no idea what we can say about that but just pointing that out (pun intended).

[marldorthegreat]

1 hour ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

970Perf>>>>.<<<<<<980Perf

......I personally think the performance from it,...will be in the above scale.

Based on not much.... but we'll see.

Yeah, 980 performance at < 100 watts of power. And 6/8 gb of ram. 

[captain cactus]

So the performance of a $400 GPU (980) for $250-$300 with a single 6-pin and fully capable of VR. Or does the RX mean that it's the 480X? 

 

I'm happy with that. Makes me even more exited for the -X variant and the 490(X) GPUs. Not to mention the behemoths that are Vega 10 and 11 (the latter of which is apparently having over 6000 stream processors).

[RagnarokDel]

2 hours ago, Delicieuxz said:

 

 

 

AMD is going to battle the previous generation of graphics hardware? I guess that's picking your battles.

the 1080 and 1070 also compare with the previous generation...

1 hour ago, Delicieuxz said:

There've been rumours that Vega might've been bumped to October, 2016. Has there been anything clarifying whether that is or isn't the case?

It cant be bumped when it was scheduled for Q4 2016/Q1 2017.

[ivan134]

9 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

So the performance of a $400 GPU (980) for $250-$300 with a single 6-pin and fully capable of VR. Or does the RX mean that it's the 480X? 

 

I'm happy with that. Makes me even more exited for the -X variant and the 490(X) GPUs. Not to mention the behemoths that are Vega 10 and 11 (the latter of which is apparently having over 6000 stream processors).

490(x) are Vega. 

[captain cactus]

3 minutes ago, ivan134 said:

490(x) are Vega. 

Vega will be Fury replacements. 390(X) wasn't a Fury-level card either. Unless we get something like Vega and Vega-X and then Vega 11 and Vega 11-X.

 

Otherwise AMD leaves a performance gap. The 490(X) should be competing with the 1070, and the Vega cards with the 1080Ti and Pascal Titan. That leaves the 1080 with no competition.

[marldorthegreat]

8 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Vega will be Fury replacements. 390(X) wasn't a Fury-level card either. Unless we get something like Vega and Vega-X and then Vega 11 and Vega 11-X.

 

Otherwise AMD leaves a performance gap. The 490(X) should be competing with the 1070, and the Vega cards with the 1080Ti and Pascal Titan. That leaves the 1080 with no competition.

vega 10 - 1080ti / Titan pascal

vega 11 - 1080

Polaris 10 - 1070

polaris 11 -  1060/1050

[ivan134]

13 minutes ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Vega will be Fury replacements. 390(X) wasn't a Fury-level card either. Unless we get something like Vega and Vega-X and then Vega 11 and Vega 11-X.

 

Otherwise AMD leaves a performance gap. The 490(X) should be competing with the 1070, and the Vega cards with the 1080Ti and Pascal Titan. That leaves the 1080 with no competition.

The naming has nothing to do with performance tier. Vega is polaris with hbm2. 

[captain cactus]

4 minutes ago, marldorthegreat said:

vega 10 - 1080ti / Titan pascal

vega 11 - 1080

Polaris 10 - 1070

polaris 11 -  1060/1050

Actually Vega 11 is the higher-end card.

 

But this seems like a strange move. It means nVidia has a 6 month long head start with the 1080 before Vega 10 arrives, if Vega 10 releases in October.

[IGJoe2192]

Just six more hours, calm down.

[Dackzy]

1 hour ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Vega will be Fury replacements. 390(X) wasn't a Fury-level card either. Unless we get something like Vega and Vega-X and then Vega 11 and Vega 11-X.

 

Otherwise AMD leaves a performance gap. The 490(X) should be competing with the 1070, and the Vega cards with the 1080Ti and Pascal Titan. That leaves the 1080 with no competition.

The 490/490x is Vega, the top model polaris is the 480x.

[Dackzy]

1 hour ago, ivan134 said:

The naming has nothing to do with performance tier. Vega is polaris with hbm2. 

No not in a single way it is a completely different chip and architecture.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Actually Vega 11 is the higher-end card.

 

But this seems like a strange move. It means nVidia has a 6 month long head start with the 1080 before Vega 10 arrives, if Vega 10 releases in October.

within 6 months, the 1080 will have been nerfed by drivers to the point of Vega being faster.

 

It is all part of the governments plan

[Dackzy]

Just now, Prysin said:

within 6 months, the 1080 will have been nerfed by drivers to the point of Vega being faster.

 

It is all part of the governments plan

The worst part is that they will be nerfed like any other Nvidia card have been.

[Prysin]

1 hour ago, ivan134 said:

The naming has nothing to do with performance tier. Vega is polaris with hbm2. 

HBM1

 

AMD has stated that they will not use HBM2 just yet as they need to recover investment costs from the RnD of HBM. HBM2 is also not mature just yet. It barely started mass productions and yields will probably be bad for quite some time.

 

There is no benefit of HBM2 over HBM. The bandwidth availible even with HBM1 is an order of magnitude higher then what we will need for gaming for a couple of years at least.

If Nvidia is using HBM2, it is purely as a marketing stunt. There will litterally be no point to do so from a consumer performance point.

[Dackzy]

1 hour ago, lots of unexplainable lag said:

Vega will be Fury replacements. 390(X) wasn't a Fury-level card either. Unless we get something like Vega and Vega-X and then Vega 11 and Vega 11-X.

 

Otherwise AMD leaves a performance gap. The 490(X) should be competing with the 1070, and the Vega cards with the 1080Ti and Pascal Titan. That leaves the 1080 with no competition.

The 490 and 490x are Vega just so you know.