How do You feel about the GTX1080's performance Now that the Benchmarks are officially out

[Malaki Titi]

1 hour ago, CostcoSamples said:

I'm impressed.

 

BUT I wonder how much cherry picking Nvidia did when handing out review samples.

 

 

Not looking at the quality of what you're handing out is poor business practice.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

[Malaki Titi]

10 minutes ago, rrubberr said:

Kind of cute what Nvidia did with marketing, really very honest. You would be better off just buying a pair of 980ti's for $250 and over clocking them a tad.

Assuming they already have an SLI board.

If not that's another $100 - $150 they would have to spend.

Don't forget the SLI bridge.  They're not free.

[ivan134]

Dx 11 performance increase were pretty much what i expected. Async compute performance is still a joke. Pascal is just maxwell 3.0 on a smaller node. The 1080 has performance regression in Ashes just like maxwell. 

[done12many2]

3 hours ago, rrubberr said:

Kind of cute what Nvidia did with marketing, really very honest. You would be better off just buying a pair of 980ti's for $250 and over clocking them a tad.

 

Used 980 Ti prices have fallen a good bit, but you're going to be waiting a good while before you pick up a pair of 980 Tis for $250.  

[grayperview]

Performance wise, same old shit from Nvidia 25% to 30% over the previous flagship....Features wise quite impressive fastsync or whatever they are calling sounds interesting as does the new multi monitor tech they have.....

 

Probably just going to get another Fury for a 1/4 of the price...

[vong]

I'm pretty pissed now as the DX12 benchmarks are so good. A single 1080 is more or less equal to dual 980Ti's. Makes me wanna sell mine but I don't want to upgrade till a single card can handle 4K @60fps which I reckon will be the next gen.

[sgloux3470]

2 hours ago, typographie said:

I'm talking about performance, though. You said you weren't really impressed. The LTT benchmarks had the GTX 1080 coming within a few frames per second of two GTX 980's in SLI in most games. What does it take to impress you, if not a 70%+ improvement with a single generational improvement?

 

About 20% of that 70% improvement is just memory bandwidth not being shit.  There's a reason the 4K jump is much larger than the 1080p jump, Maxwell scales like dick into higher resolutions like 4K compared to AMD. (While Nvidia tends to perform better at lower resolutions)  

 

Obviously, it's a big improvement over the 980 but it's also significantly more expensive.  GTX 980 debut was $549 MSRP, the 1080 is a $599 MSRP but realistically it's another $100 more expensive due to the founders edition.  $700/$550 = 27% more expensive.   And it is very unlikely that board partners will charge LESS than reference cards. Why would they when they offer better clocks and coolers? The MSRP is smoke and mirrors and I highly doubt anyone is going to charge less than $699 for a 1080 anytime soon.  High end 1080's will start approaching $800 easily. 

 

And when you compare it to similarly priced cards like the 980Ti or FuryX it is much less impressive.

 

Nvidia would love everyone to focus in on how this card is a big jump from the 980 and how much more cost effective it is compared to the TitanX, but they really don't want you to think about the 980Ti at all in relation to the 1080.

 

 

 

[Gix7Fifty]

Pretty typical 10-20% improvement just like all the past generations. Will definitely wait for Polaris now.

[mrchow19910319]

17 minutes ago, Gix7Fifty said:

Pretty typical 10-20% improvement just like all the past generations. Will definitely wait for Polaris now.

Rumor says vega is coming this year October.

[ivan134]

58 minutes ago, vong said:

I'm pretty pissed now as the DX12 benchmarks are so good. A single 1080 is more or less equal to dual 980Ti's. Makes me wanna sell mine but I don't want to upgrade till a single card can handle 4K @60fps which I reckon will be the next gen.

Where exactly did you see a 1080 performing like 980 ti sli in dx12? It's barely faster than a Fury X in Aots. Even in the other games with dx 12 wrappers, where is the 1080 as fast as 980 ti sli?

[CostcoSamples]

1 hour ago, Malaki Titi said:

Not looking at the quality of what you're handing out is poor business practice.

I'm surprised you didn't know that.

That's not at all what I'm talking about, but nice try.

[ivan134]

57 minutes ago, sgloux3470 said:

 

About 20% of that 70% improvement is just memory bandwidth not being shit.  There's a reason the 4K jump is much larger than the 1080p jump, Maxwell scales like dick into higher resolutions like 4K compared to AMD. (While Nvidia tends to perform better at lower resolutions)  

 

Obviously, it's a big improvement over the 980 but it's also significantly more expensive.  GTX 980 debut was $549 MSRP, the 1080 is a $599 MSRP but realistically it's another $100 more expensive due to the founders edition.  $700/$550 = 27% more expensive.   And it is very unlikely that board partners will charge LESS than reference cards. Why would they when they offer better clocks and coolers? The MSRP is smoke and mirrors and I highly doubt anyone is going to charge less than $699 for a 1080 anytime soon.  High end 1080's will start approaching $800 easily. 

 

And when you compare it to similarly priced cards like the 980Ti or FuryX it is much less impressive.

 

Nvidia would love everyone to focus in on how this card is a big jump from the 980 and how much more cost effective it is compared to the TitanX, but they really don't want you to think about the 980Ti at all in relation to the 1080.

 

 

 

I've wanted to say all this, but people would have labeled me a fanboy and the argument would have devolved into whether I'm a fanboy or not and not the substance.

 

The 1080's performance in dx 11 is definitely as impressive as I thought it would be based on previous node shrinks, but unfortunately it's overpriced and will stay like that for a long time until Vega since it doesn't seem AMD will release anything to counter it until then. What's also a joke is that I actually Nvidia was sandbagging with async compute in Maxwell, and would pull out the big guns with Pascal. Turns out they still haven't figured out how to do something AMD has been doing since 2012. The 1080 shows performance regression going from dx 11 to dx 12 in Ashes of the Singularity.

 

The 1070 seems like it will be a more sensible card, but $380 MSRP with potential $450 price from AIBs because of Nvidia's Founder's Edition nonsense is making me not get my hopes up. Not to mention this will be potentially going up against Polaris 10 with much better dx 12 performance. Nvidia sure knows how to bring the hype. I feel they're just blowing smoke up people's asses.

[Suika]

The jump from a 780 Ti to a 980 was like 3-5%, wasn't it? Now the jump from a 980 Ti to the 1080 is 20-30%, and more so in virtual reality. Honestly, if there is a 1080 Ti, I'm excited to see what it brings to the table. 

[sgloux3470]

1 hour ago, Suika said:

The jump from a 780 Ti to a 980 was like 3-5%, wasn't it? Now the jump from a 980 Ti to the 1080 is 20-30%, and more so in virtual reality. Honestly, if there is a 1080 Ti, I'm excited to see what it brings to the table. 

 

Well sort of.  On titles available when the 980 was released?  Yes.  But in games today the 780Ti tends to perform more around the range of the 970.  This is mostly because Nvidia hasn't optimized anything for Kepler since then.  The relative performance between the 290 has went from being slower than the 780Ti to actually being a bit faster because AMD kept drivers up to date for Hawaii due to the 390 line.

[VagabondWraith]

I'm impressed enough to buy an aftermarket GTX 1080. My 980 Ti will go in another build. AMD will have nothing to offer in the high end, so the decision is simple.

[JamGorby]

"Let's incorrectly compare the GTX1080 to the 980ti and Titan X and cry about a mere 20-25% performance increase. Forget about the card it was meant to replace and the huge performance gap between those two. I would rather compare apples to oranges because I enjoy being disappointing." - this thread

[Big-G]

How do I feel? With my hands!?

 

As a 980 owner, I think it's very good

[DELTAprime]

I was thinking it was pretty good performance looking at PC Per's and LTT's benchmarks. Then I saw Hardware Unboxed review which included lower end cards from AMD and Nvidia and it really made me excited to see how massive the difference is between my 970 and the 1080. I wish the bigger guys were as thorough with their suite of benches.

 

 

[JamGorby]

Only 87% faster than the 980 in GTAV!!?? Pathetic! 



Only 61.5%!!!??? WE'VE BEEN ROBBED!!!



78%!!!?? I can't take no more!!

Eff U nVidia!!! Eff U in the B!!!
 

[Big-G]

7 minutes ago, JamGorby said:

Only 87% faster than the 980 in GTAV!!?? Pathetic! 

Only 61.5%!!!??? WE'VE BEEN ROBBED!!!

78%!!!?? I can't take no more!!

Eff U nVidia!!! Eff U in the B!!!
 

Seriously? That's about 980 SLI performance anyway... from one card... and the successor to 980... so in my books, it's living up to the hype.

[JamGorby]

Obvious sarcasm is obvious. 

 

[Big-G]

2 minutes ago, JamGorby said:

Obvious sarcasm is obvious. 

 

Nope, I've had too many interactions with fanboy trolls on WCCF to make the distinction anymore...

[JamGorby]

Being older than Methuselah, I'd say I've never seen this big of an improvement between generations since the Geforce 8000 series. I don't understand people's disappointment at all. 

[-rascal-]

People fell for the "2X and over 3X the performance" PR hype.

Spoiler

 

 

(We all knew it, but all the [fanboys ] were flooding new threads about it on the forum's Graphics Card sub-section for the last week...)

[vong]

2 hours ago, ivan134 said:

Where exactly did you see a 1080 performing like 980 ti sli in dx12? It's barely faster than a Fury X in Aots. Even in the other games with dx 12 wrappers, where is the 1080 as fast as 980 ti sli?

Might've not been in DX12 but the 1080 beat all cards at 4K. I literally watched LTT's 1080 video before posting.