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Fresh problems for Nvidia users running DirectX 12

Master Disaster
59 minutes ago, Prysin said:

Every DX generation up until now has faced adoption issued because you had to BUY a new operating system. This time around it is FREE.

 

Meaning, aslong as the hardware supports it, there is NOTHING holding you back from getting Win10 and DX12. NOTHING. Except if you run Vista or XP... but really, who still play games using Vista or XP?

No way am I upgrading to windows 10 though. It sucks in everyway ever. Really I mean it

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Aye, DX12 being W10 exclusive is such a dickpunch.

 

W10 Is a POS. So many compatibility issues, and so much data collection (with the exception of enterprise edition).

 

I wont be using W10, though if I can find a version of enterprise edition that is updated to remove bugs and as many compatibility issues as possible, THEN I may use I as it 'should' have the option of turning off all data collection (unlike 'normal' versions which have data collection on even if u turn off the available options).

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AMD has finally found their GameWorks...

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Just fyi,  it's a driver issue at worst,  because I've been running dolphin on dx12 for months without any issues... 

 

 

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Nvidia failing miserably to get games working? This is like 2004-2005 all over again!

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This title seems biased, and click bait... Only 1 of the issues is Nvidia exclusive... When it's not even Nvidia exclusive...

 

And Steam discussion board isn't exactly a decent source...

 

Saying that, it's probably a driver issue, did they list what driver they where having issues with at all? I know Nvidia's latest driver had some people complaining about something, so it could be related to that...

 

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8 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

 

2) Hundreds (if not thousands) of Nvidia users have reported DirectX 12 makes their game refuse to run at all, freeze while running or just display a blank/black screen. This issue is affecting Nvidia users only and is persistent across both ROTR and Hitman and occurs on hardware ranging from the 700 series cards all the way up to Titan Xs. AMD users are reporting zero issues with DX12 on either title.

 

Literally 4th post on the board is a post about AMD cards crashing, and a driver related fix...

http://steamcommunity.com/app/236870/discussions/0/412449508283618854/

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3 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

No way am I upgrading to windows 10 though. It sucks in everyway ever. Really I mean it

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Oh hey look, another half-witted API implementation in a game, and everybody is blaming Microsoft and NVidia, becoming magical experts in game/application development in the process.

 

More at 11.

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2 hours ago, VagabondWraith said:

AMD has finally found their GameWorks...

Um how can this be even remotely compared to Gameworks?  DX 12 is a Microsoft product that has an open API.  Gameworks(not) is an Nvidia product that is completely closed meaning AMD has no way of using the code.

 

The fact that Nvidia is having a rough launch on DX12 just proves they were not building products to last nor were they thinking ahead they just optimized for current games.  This is all on Nvidia just like Gameworks is all on Nvidia.

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6 hours ago, Prysin said:

trust me, it WONT have DX11. Because it doesnt need it. And honestly, devs have zero incentive to make a DX11 game. Unlike DX8, 9, 10, 11 this time around it is EASY for users to play DX12 games.

Most hardware from all manufaturers support DX12. (whilst Nvidia has dropped Fermi, GTX 600, 700 and 900 can use DX12, whilst on the AMD side you got the 7000, 200, 300 and Fury cards fully able to run DX12. For Intel we got HD 4000, HD 5000, HD 500 all supporting DX12)

Win10 is FREE, so there is no real cost involved in getting DX12.

 

 

Also, ALL CURRENT GEN CONSOLES RUN DX12 OR SIMILAR LOW LEVEL APIs, SO EVEN CONSOLES WONT BE HOLDING DX12 BACK.

Nvidia has dropped Fermi support for Vulkan only I believe.

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10 minutes ago, Prysin said:

Fermi is 400 + 500. Kepler is 600 + 700. Maxwell is 750/750TI, Maxwell 2 is 900 series.

So... I know all of this, Fermi is still supported for DX12 isn't it, but it's had it's Vulkan support dropped.

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4 hours ago, Master Disaster said:

Except its happening in 2 different games made by 2 different developers, and only to Nvidia GPU Owners??

aren't both games made by Nixxos which is part of IO Interactive which is owned by Square Enix?

 

either way... Tomb Raider is a geforce experience title, lol the way it's meant to be played

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4 hours ago, SamStrecker said:

No way am I upgrading to windows 10 though. It sucks in everyway ever. Really I mean it

elaborate?

name five differences between windows 7 and windows 10

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6 hours ago, huilun02 said:

I cry foul, AMD sabotaging Nvidia performance. Green team would never do this. They have always been for new standards and against proprietary stuff that screws with game performance.

sarcasm is gr8

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So in other words, both NVIDIA and AMD have problems, and the title is misleading.

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19 minutes ago, DXMember said:

elaborate?

name five differences between windows 7 and windows 10

invasive af - negative

dx12 - positive

tiles - mixed

PROPER touchscreen support - positive

microsoft account integration - mixed

new start menu - opinion

universal apps - mixed

settings and control panel - negative but opinion, i find settings to be terrible

cortana - positive

task view - positive

microsoft edge - DEFINITELY positive (bye IE)

desktop improvements - positive

security improvements - positive

web search from desktop - positive

xbox one game streaming - positive

that dvr thing - positive

somewhat increased performance in general - positive

 

so yea i see no reason to stick with windows 7. don't like the invasive win 10 features, disable them. done.

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Just now, rose.thashton said:

settings instead of control panel - negative but opinion

The Control Panel still exists.

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Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

The Control Panel still exists.

so both then

 

cool

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1 minute ago, rose.thashton said:

so both then

 

cool

Yup.

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1 hour ago, suicidalfranco said:

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shitstorm!

I upgraded 4 PCs ranging from crap top to rig in sig and all had problems that made me go back to 7. Even our school went from 10 to 7 because all the problems they had

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Just now, SamStrecker said:

I upgraded 4 PCs ranging from crap top to rig in sig and all had problems that made me go back to 7. Even our school went from 10 to 7 because all the problems they had

My rig has problems, but my laptop does not.

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Just now, Godlygamer23 said:

My rig has problems, but my laptop does not.

Same here as the craptop had one easy fix but my main rig was unusable. I think MS just focused on prebuilts 

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