FX9370 or FX 8320

[Benji_w]

5 hours ago, Chimras said:

Just want a quick answer

Depends on several factors, Cooling and motherboard choices.

Yet another AMD thread full of the blind leading the blind...

An 8350 @ 5ghz produces more heat than a 9xxx chip.

[i_build_nanosuits]

6 hours ago, Chimras said:

Just want a quick answer

i5-4460/4590

i5-6400/6500

 

if you already own the board, get the cheapest FX-83XX you can get your hands on and overclock it yourself.

[QuantumTank]

I didnt read all the commits but I have a Unlocked FX 8320 OC to 5 Ghz stable.

I also have a Cryborg H5 Heatsink

[Benji_w]

Just now, QuantumTank said:

I didnt read all the commits but I have a Unlocked FX 8320 OZ to 5 Ghz stable.

I also have a Cryborg H5 Heatsink

Tested with what stress test and how much voltage? I'm always very skeptical of people saying they're at 5ghz on here but they can't even pass a standard IBT AVX test to confirm they're stable.

 

 

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[Chimras]

10 hours ago, Brink2Three said:

There are boards that are AM3/AM3+ that support both generations. 

I recently bought the 970 Pro Gaming Aura

[Guest]

6 hours ago, Benji_w said:

Tested with what stress test and how much voltage? I'm always very skeptical of people saying they're at 5ghz on here but they can't even pass a standard IBT AVX test to confirm they're stable.

 

 

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agreed. I think he would hit thermal limits with that config. But, who knows. 

[FruitBasketSilex]

17 hours ago, aisle9 said:

The 9370 makes your PC into one of the best convection ovens on the market.

Love it.

 

14 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

If the board he has is capable of running an FX8, then an fx8 may be the better choice, but he still hasn't said what board he has and an fx8 isn't something that can just run on any board. 

 

Also an i5 will do pretty much everything better other than rendering and virtualization. 

 

Actually, a 4690k matches the 8320 in multi-threaded tasks, so.......it will do pretty much the same in rendering.

[FruitBasketSilex]

11 hours ago, QuantumTank said:

I didnt read all the commits but I have a Unlocked FX 8320 OC to 5 Ghz stable.

I also have a Cryborg H5 Heatsink

Uh....congratulations?

[FruitBasketSilex]

7 hours ago, Chimras said:

I recently bought the 970 Pro Gaming Aura

Pretty sure nobody here knows how good the VRMs are on that board.

 

They could be good, and handle an 8350/9370 just fine.

 

They could burst into flames (quite litteraly) when you try and boot up.

[79wjd]

6 minutes ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

Love it.

 

Actually, a 4690k matches the 8320 in multi-threaded tasks, so.......it will do pretty much the same in rendering.

A 4690k is also more expensive than a proper FX8 setup whereas a locked i5 (which was what was being recommended) is still slower than an FX8 in rendering. 

[Chimras]

8 hours ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

Pretty sure nobody here knows how good the VRMs are on that board.

 

They could be good, and handle an 8350/9370 just fine.

 

They could burst into flames (quite litteraly) when you try and boot up.

Yeah i did see a video of the motherboard MIS 970, the CPU area started smoking within 5 - 10 seconds, but right now i made up my mind and ill wait for the Zen.

[FruitBasketSilex]

2 hours ago, djdwosk97 said:

A 4690k is also more expensive than a proper FX8 setup whereas a locked i5 (which was what was being recommended) is still slower than an FX8 in rendering. 

1) locked i5 isn't going to be much worse than the 4690k (which stock vs stock is what matches the FX).

2) No one here knows the quality of the 970 Aura board that OP has, so therefore none of us can actually advise him to use an FX8/9 chip on it until we find out.

[Steveoc64]

Id take the  FX 8320 + Vostok Amphibia 

which would still cost less than a 9370

[Darkseth]

Easy.

 

AMD FX 8320E is the Highest AMD CPU you should buy. Maybe 8320 if its not more expensive. Not the 8350, not the 8370, no 95xx.

Why? You can overclock it as much as you want. Spending MORE Money here, makes the CPU more expensive than an Intel skylake i5. So you pay More, for a product, that is just half as good.

Literaly. Intel skylake has like 100%~ more ipc.

 

My personal suggestion: Safve for an i6 6500 at least. Believe me. 

If you buy cheap, you buy Twice. And if you buy AMD FX, you WILL buy twice. Because you will soon have to upgarde, because the CPU has such a bad performance.

 

Plus: AM3+ is an old Platform with old chipsets (i think, just relabel'd 8xx chips form 2008 or 2009.).

 

 

 

TL;DR:

Get Intel skylake, or Wait for Zen.

[Nena Trinity]

You can get the FX-9370 but only if you have a motherboard that can handle 225W, yet you can OC the FX-83X0s to if you are lucky you may even beat FX-9370 but the higher clocked out of box models are more likely to reach good OCs...

[79wjd]

6 hours ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

1) locked i5 isn't going to be much worse than the 4690k (which stock vs stock is what matches the FX).

2) No one here knows the quality of the 970 Aura board that OP has, so therefore none of us can actually advise him to use an FX8/9 chip on it until we find out.

No one knows the quality of that board first hand, but it's an Asus board with a good VRM setup, so as long as they used quality components, which is an assumption is be willing to make, then it will be fine.

 

And for rendering an fx8 is still a decent bit better than a locked i5. So if rendering is far more important than gaming then an fx8 is a good choice (especially if he already had a board)

[FruitBasketSilex]

Just now, djdwosk97 said:

No one knows the quality of that board first hand, but it's an Asus board with a good VRM setup, so as long as they used quality components, which is an assumption is be willing to make, then it will be fine.

 

And for rendering an fx8 is still a decent bit better than a locked i5. So if rendering is far more important than gaming then an fx8 is a good choice (especially if he already had a board)

It's safe to disregard the entirety of your first paragraph, considering good hope is not what the world runs on.

 

It would be about 15% faster at best (AT BEST) on napkin math.

[79wjd]

38 minutes ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

It's safe to disregard the entirety of your first paragraph, considering good hope is not what the world runs on.

 

It would be about 15% faster at best (AT BEST) on napkin math.

15% is quite a bit. Especially for free. 

 

By by that logic you can ignore 99% of advice that's given on this forum in regards to hardware since most people haven't had experience with more than whatever hardware they happen to be using.

[FruitBasketSilex]

7 minutes ago, djdwosk97 said:

15% is quite a bit. Especially for free. 

 

By by that logic you can ignore 99% of advice that's given on this forum in regards to hardware since most people haven't had experience with more than whatever hardware they happen to be using.

There's a difference between information not yet reaching a forum, and someone not being able to reciprocate known information.

 

15% is quite a bit, yes, but you're also not thinking about the other side, single threaded performance, while you're losing 15% (which I repeat, is at best) you're gaining quite a bit more than that in single threaded performance.

[Sintezza]

The Msi 970A gaming is a 6+2 powerphase board and will be fine to run a FX83xx cpu on.

[79wjd]

28 minutes ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

There's a difference between information not yet reaching a forum, and someone not being able to reciprocate known information.

 

15% is quite a bit, yes, but you're also not thinking about the other side, single threaded performance, while you're losing 15% (which I repeat, is at best) you're gaining quite a bit more than that in single threaded performance.

If gaming is important to you (more so than rendering), and you don't have any hardware, then the i5 is a better choice. If rendering is more important than an fx8 (or possibly a larger budget) is a better choice. 

 

But it in this case OP already has a capable board. Sure you can argue that it's crap because it's new, but the same can be said for literally any new hardware. The best one can do is stick to reputable brands and quality components and hope for the best -- or buy old and validated hardware. Would I recommend going with a board that's unproven, no; but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be.

[FruitBasketSilex]

1 minute ago, djdwosk97 said:

If gaming is important to you (more so than rendering), and you don't have any hardware, then the i5 is a better choice. If rendering is more important than an fx8 (or possibly a larger budget) is a better choice. 

 

But it in this case OP already has a capable board. Sure you can argue that it's crap because it's new, but the same can be said for literally any new hardware. The best one can do is stick to reputable brands and quality components and hope for the best -- or buy old and validated hardware. Would I recommend going with a board that's unproven, no; but it's not as bad as you're making it out to be.

My entire point is that OP needs to investigate the VRMs on the board before making any purchases.

 

For all we know, the VRMs on that board are trash.

[Sintezza]

12 hours ago, FruitBasketSilex said:

My entire point is that OP needs to investigate the VRMs on the board before making any purchases.

 

For all we know, the VRMs on that board are trash.

 

Which motherboard are you exaly refering to uphere?

 

The Asus 970A Pro gaming/Aura is exaly a pretty  sollid motherboard.

Its a very rarely seen 7+1 powerphase digi vrm from IR

Mosfets used on this particular board are decent namely NTMFS4C09N and 2xNTMFS4C06N.

The inductors are not the highest quality that Asus has in stock.

But they are still sufficient.

 

This board is decent enough to run a FX83xx cpu on overclocked.

 

So i´m not sure which mobo you are refering to as trash?

[FruitBasketSilex]

7 hours ago, Sintezza said:

 

Which motherboard are you exaly refering to uphere?

 

The Asus 970A Pro gaming/Aura is exaly a pretty  sollid motherboard.

Its a very rarely seen 7+1 powerphase digi vrm from IR

Mosfets used on this particular board are decent namely NTMFS4C09N and 2xNTMFS4C06N.

The inductors are not the highest quality that Asus has in stock.

But they are still sufficient.

 

This board is decent enough to run a FX83xx cpu on overclocked.

 

So i´m not sure which mobo you are refering to as trash?

DOES NOBODY READ MY FUCKING POSTS?

 

At no point did I say that ANY motherboard (besides the 970 Krait) was trash. What I said, was that no one up until you (thank you for the information on the power delivery) knew how good the power delivery was, so for all we knew it was trash, and therefore, without knowledge of the board, none of us could recommend it. 

 

Next time, please read my posts. Now that we know the quality of the VRMs, we can safely tell OP to grab an 8320 and overclock it on the board.

 

(Read my posts, don't skim them, don't read them the way you want to see them, just read them. Thank you)

[danrey84]

I would go 8320 its nice an cheap an pretty much regarded as a under clocked 8350/8370 and its will be cheaper too. My friend has just put an 8320 in his new rig and we managed to OC to what an 8370 comes stock.