HP Elite x3 revealed - Your smartphone that is your laptop and desktop, running Windows 10 Mobile, and makes bacon.

[Carde]

Looking forwards to a windows 10 phone this year, but this one will not be the one and the simple reason:

 

That speaker grill at the bottom, it's non symmetrical layout annoys me just by looking at it. It is not just that it is not symmetrical it is that it is designed just badly it looks like a manufacturing error and not a design choice.

[GoodBytes]

54 minutes ago, Carde said:

Looking forwards to a windows 10 phone this year, but this one will not be the one and the simple reason:

 

That speaker grill at the bottom, it's non symmetrical layout annoys me just by looking at it. It is not just that it is not symmetrical it is that it is designed just badly it looks like a manufacturing error and not a design choice.

Your best bet, is possibly the Surface Phone.

By then Windows 10 Mobile should be nicely ready, all feature well developed, and have a great phone.

[GoodBytes]

1 hour ago, pit5000 said:

so the laptop is a wireless display and hub?

 

I like the idea of a single device running everything else you own. Isn't this where Apple has been trying to go for the last few years and still haven't gotten there yet? Obviously this windows phone hardware isn't the most powerful but at least they got the concept right. 

Its definitely a view of tomorrow. that we have now. But I think it is a very exciting first step. In reality, it will probably take 2-3 more years to really have the needed technology to make such setup viable for a larger market. Reminds me of the Surface Pro 1. The product was amazing at the time, sure it had issues, being first gen product, not to mention a first time for Microsoft, and the technology didn't allow for long battery life. But if we look at the Surface Pro 3, that thing really shines, and continues to improve. Same with the first iPhone. It didn't have apps or a store. It was limited, but future iteration, of the device really defined smartphone of tomorrow.

 

Right now, I see this continuum as a cool toy, and a cool tool for few people. But it stops there. But the day we have faster ARM processors, or more power efficient x86 CPUs to allow long battery life and performance, now we would be talking as a cool solution for the consumer that have little needs out of a computer: Surf the web/Facebook, and Office.

 

I just hope that people don't bash on this first gen stuff, to encourage investment form all parties to push things. In order words, have Android be able to do so the same, and who knows, maybe even Apple, and ideas are shared and it all comes together as a reality, and not a dream put on hold for many more years.

[Starelementpoke]

6 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

-Lies-

 

 

 

I started reading this because I was promised bacon. I was lied to.

[GoodBytes]

5 minutes ago, Starelementpoke said:

I started reading this because I was promised bacon. I was lied to.

All my posts includes a full money back guaranty. You were refunded.

[Starelementpoke]

Just now, GoodBytes said:

All my posts includes a full money back guaranty. You were refunded.

Yay, refunded a whole $0, effectively doubling the amount of $$$ I own.

[SurvivorNVL]

I have to say.. the phone, the peripherals, all of it look gorgeous and I hope it is well-implemented.  If this turns out to be well-implemented, and there's a rush of support in to Windows 10 Mobile - that'll be wonderful.  I'm especially onboard with the encryption and VPN.  One of the big reasons for myself even looking to an iphone 7, or i7, is because of the strong built in encryption.

Edit:  Also the included NVME in the iPhone just sort of screams, "Well, I gotta have it." to me.

Edited February 22, 2016 by SurvivorNVL

[Nowak]

6 minutes ago, SurvivorNVL said:

I have to say.. the phone, the peripherals, all of it look gorgeous and I hope it is well-implemented.  If this turns out to be well-implemented, and there's a rush of support in to Windows 10 Mobile - that'll be wonderful.  I'm especially onboard with the encryption and VPN.  One of the big reasons for myself even looking to an iphone 7, or i7, is because of the strong built in encryption.

Edit:  Also the included NVME in the iPhone just sort of screams, "Well, I gotta have it." to me.

Windows Phone is more secure than iOS is so there's that, although that may be more of a security by obscurity thing due to how little market share it has worldwide. Might also have to do with the API restrictions and sandboxing model.

[AlTech]

11 hours ago, pit5000 said:

so the laptop is a wireless display and hub?

 

I like the idea of a single device running everything else you own. Isn't this where Apple has been trying to go for the last few years and still haven't gotten there yet? Obviously this windows phone hardware isn't the most powerful but at least they got the concept right. 

Excuse me? Windows Phone Hardware is on point. Only problem is software.

[AlTech]

10 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

All my posts includes a full money back guaranty. You were refunded.

Ah i see, 30 hour money back guarantee . Does this mean i get back the 3 minutes of my life spent on reading and watching this? /s

[GoodBytes]

6 minutes ago, AluminiumTech said:

Ah i see, 30 hour money back guarantee . Does this mean i get back the 3 minutes of my life spent on reading and watching this? /s

Only the money you spent to read the post that was sent to me.

[LAwLz]

It's nice to see another manufacturer make a high end Windows phone.

As for the phone itself, it seems to check all boxes but still not be very interesting. It has more or less the same specs as we will see in most flagship phones this year, except maybe the massive screen. The biggest differentiating features I can see with this phone are the front facing speakers (nice), drop resistance rating (very nice), the laptop dock (cool but not very useful) and Windows Phone 10 (bad).

 

I think the dock will be fairly useless and that's because you will be limited to the Metro apps, which as we all know is basically a wasteland when it comes to third party support. So chances are, you will want an x86 powered laptop to do things you traditionally use a laptop for. You might be able to do some writing on it but that's about it. It reminds me of Windows RT, which was even less usable than ChromeOS.

It would have been far more useful with an Intel Atom SoC.

 

Also, the phone won't come out until August, so about half a year from now.

 

 

10 hours ago, Daring said:

Windows Phone is more secure than iOS is so there's that

[Citation Needed]

[Bouzoo]

While spec wise it's nothing spectacular in most places, that coating and B&O got me really interested. The only problem for me is OS but an interesting product nonetheless. 

Was not expecting this from HP. It's cool when a company surprises you. 

[Sidiox]

This looks like one hell of a phone. Windows Mobile still needs more apps, but I'm liking the look of it. I'd like to see some performance comparisons between android and Windows Mobile especially. The only problem that I don't see going away is lack of customisibility. 

[AlexGoesHigh]

20 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

I think the dock will be fairly useless and that's because you will be limited to the Metro apps, which as we all know is basically a wasteland when it comes to third party support. So chances are, you will want an x86 powered laptop to do things you traditionally use a laptop for. You might be able to do some writing on it but that's about it. It reminds me of Windows RT, which was even less usable than ChromeOS.

It would have been far more useful with an Intel Atom SoC.

From OP

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HP will provide a cloud/remote-desktop like system, where company can setup their Win32 apps with HP, and be able to view/access them from the phone. So the Win32 app runs on the server, and some app on the phone remote desktop to the app itself, for using it on the phone. Pretty interesting solution.

That's right after the spec sheet, so while on its own, app support is far more limited that desktop linux, this could make it an excellent thin client solution.

[LAwLz]

3 minutes ago, AlexGoesHigh said:

From OP

That's right after the spec sheet, so while on its own, app support is far more limited that desktop linux, this could make it an excellent thin client solution.

Well I was talking about it as a consumer product. Even for businesses though, remote desktop is not exactly an elegant and super responsive solution.

[GoodBytes]

15 minutes ago, Sidiox said:

This looks like one hell of a phone. Windows Mobile still needs more apps, but I'm liking the look of it. I'd like to see some performance comparisons between android and Windows Mobile especially. The only problem that I don't see going away is lack of customisibility. 

Android will win in benchmarks.

This is the Windows vs Linux gaming performance dispute on reverse. Windows 10 Mobile due to lack of marketshare doesn't have highly optimized drivers that Android has from the manufacture. Windows 10 Mobile is nicely optimized compared to Android (based on what we can VISUALLY see from the phone responsiveness on low end hardware), but games on in, you can bet are quick ports. So benchmarks will show to be slower (not to mention that what ever benchmark that is available is not optimized and just a quick port), and many/some games  will run slower  (From what i can see some simple games run like a slideshow on my Lumia 950 XL with a Snapdragon 810 3Gb of RAM, and others more complex runs really well).

 

So yea.. comparing performance, for now, is difficult.

[AlexGoesHigh]

4 minutes ago, LAwLz said:

Well I was talking about it as a consumer product. Even for businesses though, remote desktop is not exactly an elegant and super responsive solution.

I agree for consumer is a terrible product, most likely ill be to expensive and that it runs windows so the limited app support alone is a deal breaker, anyways i think what goodbyte said above about chips getting more powerful and still power efficient for a phone is the key to be a great experience. Continuum still has the potential to be great and useful tech.

[suicidalfranco]

If it came with Android, then maybe, just maybe, there would be chance to get an UBPort for it, and i'd end up with a balling UB device. Oh well, a man can only dream

[Trixanity]

7 minutes ago, suicidalfranco said:

If it came with Android, then maybe, just maybe, there would be chance to get an UBPort for it, and i'd end up with a balling UB device. Oh well, a man can only dream

What's the appeal of Ubuntu Touch? I'm genuinely curious. 

[suicidalfranco]

7 minutes ago, Trixanity said:

What's the appeal of Ubuntu Touch? I'm genuinely curious. 

to me: convergence and project arale (run normal linux programs regardless of the SoC architecture), also it looks good (never get tired of the ubuntu font)

[LukeTim]

I'm not a fan of this consolidation idea. My laptop is my laptop, my desktop is my desktop, and my phone is my phone. They are all designed with those specific purposes in mind, and that's the way I like it.

[Carde]

16 hours ago, GoodBytes said:

Your best bet, is possibly the Surface Phone.

By then Windows 10 Mobile should be nicely ready, all feature well developed, and have a great phone.

That is what I am hoping for by the time that is out my one plus will be over 2 years old to which means my senses allow me to replace it

[Ex14]

Still holding out for a atom equipped phone that can run x86 programs. now that will be the dream

[GoodBytes]

2 minutes ago, Ex14 said:

Still holding out for a atom equipped phone that can run x86 programs. now that will be the dream

But it won't run on your phone directly. Continuum only.

This is because, well, ignoring the high-DPI issue with most Win32 programs, many of them aren't designed for touch. Meaning you can't hover on elements. In addition, many of them don't have a scalable window, or have a limit on the minimum size, which causes problem in the program not appearing correctly on your phone, let alone phone orientation.