[Update] Netflix is officially going to crack down on users using proxy method(s) to access Netflix U.S - Already going after people!

[Dabombinable]

When Netflix came to Australia there was a sharp dip in piracy, i would bet my life that when Netflix start geo-blocking us Australian Netflix subscriptions will take a dive and downloading will rise again. I think that Netflix is well aware of this but they need to be seen as doing everything they can to stop us accessing content from other countries. 

Fuck Hollywood then. Most of the studios behind geo blocking are there.

[Swndlr]

Yes they do... well at least different pricing.

Anyway in other news 

traffic has doubled

Hey Ben! Hows business?

Ben: BOOMIN

 

Idk if you know what Im talking about, but its a DJ Khaled reference

[dalekphalm]

Canadian media sources must be 60% Canadian media or more, hence less us based selection

For Canadian TV stations (ones that are actually based in Canada), no doubt you are correct. But there are many US TV stations that are literally rebroadcast via Canadian Cable/Satellite services, like HBO, AMC, etc. Some of those have literally zero Canadian Content.

 

I would want to see the specific wording of the law to come to a conclusion. The wording could say that the entire Cable subscription requires 60% Canadian content, but that wouldn't make sense either, with "A la carte" channel selection becoming more and more common. I personally think the 60% rule only applies to stations that operate inside Canada, not ones that are rebroadcast from the US into Canada.

[mrmonmon2]

For Canadian TV stations (ones that are actually based in Canada), no doubt you are correct. But there are many US TV stations that are literally rebroadcast via Canadian Cable/Satellite services, like HBO, AMC, etc. Some of those have literally zero Canadian Content.

 

I would want to see the specific wording of the law to come to a conclusion. The wording could say that the entire Cable subscription requires 60% Canadian content, but that wouldn't make sense either, with "A la carte" channel selection becoming more and more common. I personally think the 60% rule only applies to stations that operate inside Canada, not ones that are rebroadcast from the US into Canada.

im not entirely sure on it but it seemed with Netflix it would remove some American movies to make room for new ones, which I saw happen many times

[dalekphalm]

im not entirely sure on it but it seemed with Netflix it would remove some American movies to make room for new ones, which I saw happen many times

I'm not convinced that Netflix is removing shows to adhere to Canadian Law - They remove content all the time when:

1. Their license expires (Often a studio won't renew the license, because someone else got an exclusive, or they just introduced their own platform, etc)

2. Viewership numbers were down (If something is unpopular - especially when it's a big-name item that has a large license fee, it'll get dumped)

 

I'm sure there are other reasons too, but those 2 are the biggest ones.

[mrmonmon2]

I'm not convinced that Netflix is removing shows to adhere to Canadian Law - They remove content all the time when:

1. Their license expires (Often a studio won't renew the license, because someone else got an exclusive, or they just introduced their own platform, etc)

2. Viewership numbers were down (If something is unpopular - especially when it's a big-name item that has a large license fee, it'll get dumped)

 

I'm sure there are other reasons too, but those 2 are the biggest ones.

yea that's probably true, just find they remove content in Canada a lot more than from the us site

[dalekphalm]

yea that's probably true, just find they remove content in Canada a lot more than from the us site

Well there ARE more of them then us

 

I had several things removed on me while I was mid-show, and it was removed both on US and Canada. The latest was a re-watch of Futurama - US had all 10 seasons, and Canada had Seasons 7-10. Then they removed all seasons except seasons 4-6 on both US and Canada - WTF why leave the middle ones? They aren't even the best seasons (First 5 seasons are by far the best). So I didn't even get to finish the last couple seasons.

[mrmonmon2]

Well there ARE more of them then us

 

I had several things removed on me while I was mid-show, and it was removed both on US and Canada. The latest was a re-watch of Futurama - US had all 10 seasons, and Canada had Seasons 7-10. Then they removed all seasons except seasons 4-6 on both US and Canada - WTF why leave the middle ones? They aren't even the best seasons (First 5 seasons are by far the best). So I didn't even get to finish the last couple seasons.

the first 5 were some of the best, but  I liked them all, watched them a few times 

[jos]

Many Netflix users in Canada and other countries uses VPN to proxy themselves on U.S servers to access content on Netflix U.S. Netflix has different content in different regions. In the case of Canada, many Canadian prefer the selection and additional content that Netflix U.S has over what Netflix Canada has.

After warnings of not doing this in the past, Netflix announced that it will officially crack down on people accessing content from Netflix of a different region that they are in, using a proxy method.

David Fullagar, Netflix’s vice president of content delivery, says in a Netflix blog post:

It’s unclear, however, exactly how Netflix plans to stop this, but it is possible that they ban users detected to do so.

Netflix is taking such action probably due to high pressure by the movie industry in order to renew contract or build confidence to be able to get the needed licenses/agreement for providing Netflix in 130 countries.

Source: http://mobilesyrup.com/2016/01/14/its-official-netflix-says-it-plans-to-crack-down-on-copyright-infringing-proxy-users/

Are you affected by this? Do you enjoy Netflix U.S content better?

then i guess Netflix become non operational outside US soon.. people need content if we are paying the amount they are asking..

[qwertywarrior]

rent a vps server and install VPN on it

they will never know

[Ryoutarou97]

inb4 netflix loses 98% of subscriber base who were all using VPS, VPNs lost 96% of customer base who only used it for netflix, and the global economy crashes. Also, download speeds for everyone improve 3000%. Netflix still manages to survive because they have to pay comcast so much less for bandwidth.

 

Okay, look, I watched all the anime I'm interested in that they have. I may be literally the only person who is unaffected by this.

[Betabot]

inb4 netflix loses 98% of subscriber base who were all using VPS, VPNs lost 96% of customer base who only used it for netflix, and the global economy crashes. Also, download speeds for everyone improve 3000%. Netflix still manages to survive because they have to pay comcast so much less for bandwidth.

 

Okay, look, I watched all the anime I'm interested in that they have. I may be literally the only person who is unaffected by this.

 

[CTR640]

Glad I canceled my Netflix membership.

If they act like this stupid, then fuck no, I'm no longer paying for a shitty service.

[Misanthrope]

Incidentally, my subscription is about done. I was seriously consider paying to renew it but I don't think I will, cause fuck regions.

 

To be fair, this sounds like several content licenses forced their hand and made em promise they'd crack down before they'd renew their distribution contract with them, but even then I mostly don't watch tvs or movies anymore and at this rate I don't think there's enough content to justify the price per month, not when you're arbitrarily limiting to only 1 region.

[Dabombinable]

Incidentally, my subscription is about done. I was seriously consider paying to renew it but I don't think I will, cause fuck regions.

 

To be fair, this sounds like several content licenses forced their hand and made em promise they'd crack down before they'd renew their distribution contract with them, but even then I mostly don't watch tvs or movies anymore and at this rate I don't think there's enough content to justify the price per month, not when you're arbitrarily limiting to only 1 region.

This might cheer you up: http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/computers/gadgets-on-the-go/netflix-wont-stop-aussies-sneaking-into-its-us-library-20160115-gm6m8i.html

 

Though the negative spin on things with a funny bit:

As the IT Crowd reminds us, illegally downloading a film is akin to stealing a policeman’s hat, going to the toilet in it, and returning it to his widow.

It robs creators of money they can use to make more and better content.

But today we’re being told paying for entertainment can be bad too, if that entertainment is designed for American eyes only.

http://www.news.com.au/technology/home-entertainment/comment-netflix-crackdown-will-hurt-lawabiding-feepaying-australian-tv-viewers/news-story/9072d1d8a8030d2dd463ae3a5a83852d

[Prysin]

Netflix in Norway has better selection then in the US.

how do i know?

Had someone from the US visiting and going "WTF how" when they saw all the shit we got....

[That Norwegian Guy]

Good!

 

Now maybe people will stop paying to pirate and deluding themselves it's any different.

 

If you want to pirate, then do it for free.

 

(Bypassing region locks is technically piracy)

[jaggysnake57]

Well piracy just increased again then

[Dabombinable]

Good!

 

Now maybe people will stop paying to pirate and deluding themselves it's any different.

 

If you want to pirate, then do it for free.

 

(Bypassing region locks is technically piracy)

Nothing is being stolen or copied at all-to use any countries Netflix you need to pay.

[That Norwegian Guy]

Nothing is being stolen or copied at all-to use any countries Netflix you need to pay.

 

Doesn't matter. You're bypassing region locks = piracy

 

You're just being dumb enough to pay to do it

[FPSwithaWacomTablet]

Marshall McLuhan and capitalism don't mix very well, don't they?

And yes, BitTorrent got more traffic once again. Personally, the media I enjoy aren't primarily mainstream Netflix content; anime sites (yay Crunchyroll) still have better collection than Netflix itself.

[Dabombinable]

Doesn't matter. You're bypassing region locks = piracy

 

You're just being dumb enough to pay to do it

Geoblocking is used by studios to price gouge, so read this: http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-07-29/geo-blocking-mps-committee-price-report-apple-adobe-microsoft/4850484

Granted this is about Netflix and the studios doing the geoblocking, but the same thing applies. Geoblocking is only a tool to get consumers to pay more than the fair price and to prevent consumers from speaking with their wallet.

[Salty]

Can someone explain to me how they can detect if you're using a proxy or VPN service? Doesn't make sense to me.

[SImoHayha]

Sounds like Netflix doesn't want any money. I mean like what are they thinking ? Its not like they're stealing they are still paying for using netflix. Shit allow people to geosurf, there is a reason why they do it. Because they want to watch shows that other people are watching.

 

Either Netflix can start losing money due to pirating because they clearly don't understand how to think from the consumers. Or they can continue it and allow it to happen because why not they aren't hurting anyone. They are still paying you PAYING YOU! It's not like they aren't if they weren't that would be a different story but now it sounds like Netflix is just being assholes for no apparent reason other than to piss off everyone.

[SImoHayha]

Good!

 

Now maybe people will stop paying to pirate and deluding themselves it's any different.

 

If you want to pirate, then do it for free.

 

(Bypassing region locks is technically piracy)

Then how about you don't copy music.

 

Don't download music from the net

 

Don't copy movies

 

copy games to your other computers

 

Don't make any copies of games in case something happens to your disc copy. 

 

Don't use any online reading websites such as mangahere or .net or batoto because that is pirating as well.

 

Don't use any website that has english translations of light novels because that's pirating. 

 

Don't use emulators because you can pirate with that.

 

No more watching anime on other sites other than crunchyroll.