I5vs 8320

[Coltar15]

so my friend is a major fanboy of amd but im damn right sure the i5 (devils canyon/skylake) would outright destroy the 8320/8350 yes they have 8 cores but 4 of those cores are at i believe half performance compared to the other cores anyway you can submit pictures of benchmarks?

[don_svetlio]

8350 using all cores is superior to an i5

[Guest]

^This

But when gaming the i5 destroys it.

[ZetZet]

8350 using all cores is superior to an i5

but that happens pretty much never.

[don_svetlio]

but that happens pretty much never.

streaming, video editing, rendering, heavy multitasking and a few modern games

[Unhelpful]

streaming, video editing, rendering, heavy multitasking and a few modern games

I'm not trying to argue, but can you name a game where that happens?

[zyntaxable]

streaming, video editing, rendering, heavy multitasking and a few modern games

i5 for streaming is actually better

[don_svetlio]

I'm not trying to argue, but can you name a game where that happens?

Witcher 3, it's not exactly superior but the difference is close to non-existent. The main thing the 8350 lacks is the minimums - averages are pretty much identical

[don_svetlio]

i5 for streaming is actually better

not really

[Jacktastic-Mofo]

8350 using all cores is superior to an i5

I'm pretty sure the 8320 along with all the other FX series CPU's require two cores to complete a single instruction do to the way their designed its essentially reverse shitty hyper threading.

[Unhelpful]

Witcher 3, it's not exactly superior but the difference is close to non-existent. The main thing the 8350 lacks is the minimums - averages are pretty much identical

Fair enough!

[don_svetlio]

I'm pretty sure the 8320 along with all the other FX series CPU's require two cores to complete a single instruction do to the way their designed its essentially reverse shitty hyper threading.

you're quite wrong. The way FX works is it takes a core and splits it in two resulting in a bigger increase than a hyper-thread would yield when using both cores but reducing the power when using only one of the cores

[STRMfrmXMN]

so my friend is a major fanboy of amd but im damn right sure the i5 (devils canyon/skylake) would outright destroy the 8320/8350 yes they have 8 cores but 4 of those cores are at i believe half performance compared to the other cores anyway you can submit pictures of benchmarks?

In the vast majority of games there will be a big difference in the minimum FPS. In games where the cores can all be utilized (so like maybe Cities Skylines?) then it's fine. However, Intel offers many more features, can be less money if you put your mind to it and has much, much stronger single threaded performance from the factory so it makes more sense for 99% of people.

[afyeung]

I'm pretty sure the 8320 along with all the other FX series CPU's require two cores to complete a single instruction do to the way their designed its essentially reverse shitty hyper threading.

The cores work together only if it's a heavy task. Not on a per instruction basis

[ZetZet]

streaming, video editing, rendering, heavy multitasking and a few modern games

Streaming is a no. Because you often stream games. To stream games you need to play games. To play games i5 is better. Therefore i5 is better for streaming.

Video editing is a strange thing, because many times high single core performance is good for loading small things.

Rendering sure, but i5 is not much slower, especially an overclocked K series one, i'm pretty sure 6600K overclocked renders better.

[AresKrieger]

so my friend is a major fanboy of amd but im damn right sure the i5 (devils canyon/skylake) would outright destroy the 8320/8350 yes they have 8 cores but 4 of those cores are at i believe half performance compared to the other cores anyway you can submit pictures of benchmarks?

In short, in games they are destroyed, while in some multithread tasks the 8350 will win, so what performance are you talking about, now the difference in total performance in the tasks the 8350 does well in is 15% ish in the 8350s favor (10% if both max OC) while the single core difference is closer to 40% in favor of intel

[FuzzyYellow]

a haswell i5 and an 8320/8350 at the same clock speed are nearly identical in performance. there is really no reason to get an 8320 over an i5 if the budget allows. here's a link to the Cinebench spreadsheet from LTT forum users courtisy of @Jumper118

also, with cinebench, there's about a 10 point margin of error due to background applications and other variables.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sxzGshuqVtFe_2zgRhN3gXCraR7d8p-NazJ6z0nsGGc/edit#gid=0&vpid=A1

[ZetZet]

a haswell i5 and an 8320/8350 at the same clock speed are nearly identical in performance. there is really no reason to get an 8320 over an i5 if the budget allows. here's a link to the Cinebench spreadsheet from LTT forum users courtisy of @Jumper118

also, with cinebench, there's about a 10 point margin of error due to background applications and other variables.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sxzGshuqVtFe_2zgRhN3gXCraR7d8p-NazJ6z0nsGGc/edit#gid=0&vpid=A1

in a 8 core ideal scenario benchmark they are nearly identical.

[FuzzyYellow]

in a 8 core ideal scenario benchmark they are nearly identical.

exactly my point.

[Blebekblebek]

does it matter?

 

if you really think you'll be saving few bucks by picking FX series, you'll be sorry.

 

even against old gen i5 FX is already struggling in almost everything.

 

just move on.

[airdeano]

so my friend is a major fanboy of amd but im damn right sure the i5 (devils canyon/skylake) would outright destroy the 8320/8350 yes they have 8 cores but 4 of those cores are at i believe half performance compared to the other cores anyway you can submit pictures of benchmarks?

 

in what applications?

gaming?

productivity?

general usage?

 

kinda open-ended debate between your friend and yourself.

you first have to understand the CPU architecture platforms on how they

implement the strategies, integrate into the software and usage.

[iHardware Shelden]

but that happens pretty much never.

Ya no, not true for many people

[Nena Trinity]

In new games the FX have beaten the i5 quite a few times... Also if he wants AMD why stop him it is his money! x.x

 

Just make sure he wont buy a crappy board or he may have a fire hazard...

 

Still if he plays Arma, Dayz or Dying light he should get the i5!

[Tylo]

Streaming is a no. Because you often stream games. To stream games you need to play games. To play games i5 is better. Therefore i5 is better for streaming.

Video editing is a strange thing, because many times high single core performance is good for loading small things.

Rendering sure, but i5 is not much slower, especially an overclocked K series one, i'm pretty sure 6600K overclocked renders better.

No, that is false. The i5 has 4 cores and 4 threads. The 8320 has 4-8 (idc what people call it) cores and 8 threads. Gaming usually takes up 2 threads, which the i5's threads are better, so it would be better, so that leaves up 2 threads on the i5 and 6 threads on the 8320. The OS and background programs will take around 1 thread so now the i5 has 1 thread to stream on compared to the 8320 that has 5 threads to stream on.

[ZetZet]

No, that is false. The i5 has 4 cores and 4 threads. The 8320 has 4-8 (idc what people call it) cores and 8 threads. Gaming usually takes up 2 threads, which the i5's threads are better, so it would be better, so that leaves up 2 threads on the i5 and 6 threads on the 8320. The OS and background programs will take around 1 thread so now the i5 has 1 thread to stream on compared to the 8320 that has 5 threads to stream on.

heh, now that's certainly not how it works.