Should we support AMD?

[Guest]

S3 Graphics and PowerVR are still companies and would likely step up.

[hsm]

well there are laws in place that would prevent a "monopoly" from happening. but eventually AMD is going to respond to the huge shift twords intel, a huge multi national company like AMD can't really make decisions to change directions of the company very quickly. 

[Made In Canada]

Without competition prices wouldn't lower

That is what he is saying.

[Khajiit Dealer]

S3 Graphics and PowerVR are still companies and would likely step up.

 

I consider myself fairly knowledgeable in the realm of PC's and I've never heard of those two companies.  

[Swndlr]

There are laws and trusts set up to make sure no one company is able to have a monopoly in the CPU and GPU market.

[Untouchable]

Everybody thats even a little bit informed about the PC market already knows this.

[thekeemo]

There are laws and trusts set up to make sure no one company is able to have a monopoly in the CPU and GPU market.

Weird how telecommunications companies have no competition in many regions...

[Khajiit Dealer]

There are laws and trusts set up to make sure no one company is able to have a monopoly in the CPU and GPU market.

 

Yes, but those laws can only lessen the impact. A company with a clear advantage would undoubtedly use their position to raise prices. Also some countries do not have the same protections we have. 

 

Everybody thats even a little bit informed about the PC market already knows this.

 

I figured having a thread about it would be nice. 

[AresKrieger]

Weird how telecommunications companies have no competition in many regions...

They paid off the FCC to do that along with congress

[Swndlr]

Weird how telecommunications companies have no competition in many regions...

This is true.

But I suppose there is nothing saying they cant?

[AresKrieger]

 

Yes, but those laws can only lessen the impact. A company with a clear advantage would undoubtedly use their position to raise prices. Also some countries do not have the same protections we have. 

 

 

I figured having a thread about it would be nice. 

 

We kinda already did with the threads speculating on amd's debt problems and what will happen if zen fails

[handymanshandle]

AMD is fine, and if it wasn't the US government has things in place to prevent Nvidia and Intel becoming monopolies (Chapter 11 Reorganization Bankruptcy allows the company to continue but to restructure its debts.) Also if they needed to they could probably get a loan from the government.

Regardless an investor or the US DOJ and/or the FTC would ensure that if AMD could not function that they could get some sort of protection.

 

Though honestly if you buy an Nvidia GPU right now, you're most likely doing it for features rather than sheer performance because really the AMD doesn't have anything to compete with the Titan X.

If you're going to buy a 980 or a 980 Ti, consider a R9 390X or R9 Fury (non-X).

[Guest]

I consider myself fairly knowledgeable in the realm of PC's and I've never heard of those two companies.  

S3, one of the original PC-GPU manufacturers from the 1990s.

 

PowerVR is the maker of many mobile GPUs.

[QueenDemetria]

I consider myself fairly knowledgeable in the realm of PC's and I've never heard of those two companies.  

You just need to be an old fart like me, I remember S3 like it was yesterday. PowerVR mostly does mobile stuff now(like SoC type stuff).

[brob]

There are laws and trusts set up to make sure no one company is able to have a monopoly in the CPU and GPU market.

 

How long did it take to break up AT&T?

 

The pc market does not comprise the entire market for gpu or cpu. I am not sure it accounts for the majority of gpu sales. PC CPU have been a small part of the total cpu market for some time.

[Swndlr]

How long did it take to break up AT&T?

 

The pc market does not comprise the entire market for gpu or cpu. I am not sure it accounts for the majority of gpu sales. PC CPU have been a small part of the total cpu market for some time.

Speaking in this realm of the CPU market, srry should have specified

[Snooli]

You guys realize what happened when Apple was almost dead. Microsoft bought a large portion of them so that Microsoft wasn't destroyed by US goverment. Intel has to do this. They have to keep AMD.

[Tac127]

#GameWorksIsDyingSoon

how

[don_svetlio]

how

Devs actively refusing to use it - I've seen about 2 dozen even call it out on twitter. Not looking good for it.

[Pizzatime6]

As much as I like nvidia I like competition too. To keep things progressing. That said I refuse to buy a amd gpu/cpu to bail them out. Their poor sales and business numbers are their own fault not mine.

[don_svetlio]

As much as I like nvidia I like competition too. To keep things progressing. That said I refuse to buy a amd gpu/cpu to bail them out. Their poor sales and business numbers are their own fault not mine.

CPU, I don't blame you at all - but their GPUs are for the most part better as of this moment in time

[Pizzatime6]

CPU, I don't blame you at all - but their GPUs are for the most part better as of this moment in time

Titan X and 980TI are still better then the Fury X. This is fact as in the majority of benchmarks they score higher and get better fps in most games. Not much better any where from 5-15 fps depending on factors. Its about preference when it comes to gpus, but their cpus are hot garbage.

[don_svetlio]

Titan X and 980TI are still better then the Fury X. This is fact as in the majority of benchmarks they score higher and get better fps in most games. Not much better any where from 5-15 fps depending on factors. Its about preference when it comes to gpus, but their cpus are hot garbage.

The Titan X is actually the slowets out of the bunch since it thermalthrottles like a champ - 980 Ti is optimal

As for the rest - Fury is better than the 980 by double digit percentages

390X is only slightly behind the 980 but 100$ cheaper

390 beats the 970 for the same price usually

380 is about 15% faster than a 960

950 beats a 370 (370X to come)

and 750 Ti loses to a 370 and beats a 360

380X to come

If you want benchmarks - tell me - I have a lot of those - been proving this for several months now

[Pizzatime6]

The Titan X is actually the slowets out of the bunch since it thermalthrottles like a champ - 980 Ti is optimal

As for the rest - Fury is better than the 980 by double digit percentages

390X is only slightly behind the 980 but 100$ cheaper

390 beats the 970 for the same price usually

380 is about 15% faster than a 960

950 beats a 370 (370X to come)

and 750 Ti loses to a 370 and beats a 360

380X to come

If you want benchmarks - tell me - I have a lot of those - been proving this for several months now

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahz-iwwP8mQ Shows the furyX being kept up with a 980 hybrid gpu. Yeah titanX is more powerful and so is the 980 ti then the fury X Not saying by a huge amount but it does. Id love to see it beating it in double digits other then farcry $ which wasnt by double digits tho.

[don_svetlio]

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahz-iwwP8mQ Shows the furyX being kept up with a 980 hybrid gpu. Yeah titanX is more powerful and so is the 980 ti then the fury X

A 980? I somehow find it hard to believe since it took an EVGA Classified 980 @ 1520 core to match the bare Fury.