1000euro // best possible gaming build

[Redjo]

1. Budget & Location

- 1000Euro 

- Germany

 

2. Aim
- Gaming and maybe streaming

3. Monitors
- Already have Full HD

4. Peripherals
- Already have 

5. Why are you upgrading?

- Its for friend, he feels like he need upgrade.
 

[Elfuego]

What resolution...

 

Overclocking or not overclocking?

[007agentHP]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4460 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€184.40 @ Mindfactory) 

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€77.22 @ Mindfactory) 

Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (€47.88 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€74.54 @ Mindfactory) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.33 @ Mindfactory) 

Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 390 8GB Double Dissipation Video Card  (€329.84 @ Mindfactory) 

Case: Fractal Design Define S ATX Mid Tower Case  (€83.93 @ Mindfactory) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€73.70 @ Mindfactory) 

Total: €927.84

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 18:09 CEST+0200

[Codymm03]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€350.17 @ Mindfactory) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-D2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€52.90 @ Mindfactory) 

Memory: Crucial 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€24.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  (€347.93 @ Mindfactory) 

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Caseking) 

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€68.62 @ Home of Hardware DE) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (32-bit) 

Monitor: AOC E943FWSK 60Hz 18.5" Monitor 

Keyboard: Gear Head KB2500U Wired Slim Keyboard 

Mouse: Targus AMU51US Wired Laser Mouse 

Total: €1014.31

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 18:30 CEST+0200

[theereal]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Celeron G1610 2.6GHz Dual-Core Processor  (€39.84 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Motherboard: MSI H61M-P31/W8 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard  (€48.95 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Memory: Mushkin 2GB (1 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (€10.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€36.39 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Video Card: Zotac GeForce GTX 980 Ti 6GB AMP! Omega Edition Video Card  (€729.94 @ Mindfactory) 

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Caseking) 

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€68.62 @ Home of Hardware DE) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (32-bit)

Monitor: AOC E943FWSK 60Hz 18.5" Monitor

Keyboard: Gear Head KB2500U Wired Slim Keyboard

Mouse: Targus AMU51US Wired Laser Mouse

Total: €983.64

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 18:17 CEST+0200

 

Yeah, cause that CPU wont bottleneck a 980Ti at all.  or 2GB of ram... Or a 32bit OS... or 320GB of total storage...

[Codymm03]

Yeah, cause that CPU wont bottleneck a 980Ti at all.  or 2GB of ram... Or a 32bit OS... or 320GB of total storage...

nope

[The Official Czex]

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€350.17 @ Mindfactory) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-H81M-D2V Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€52.90 @ Mindfactory) 

Memory: Mushkin 2GB (1 x 2GB) DDR3-1333 Memory  (€10.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Intel 535 Series 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€133.58 @ Mindfactory) 

Video Card: Asus Radeon R9 390 8GB Video Card  (€347.93 @ Mindfactory) 

Case: Thermaltake VL80001W2Z ATX Mid Tower Case  (€49.90 @ Caseking) 

Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  (€68.62 @ Home of Hardware DE) 

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 OEM (32-bit)

Monitor: AOC E943FWSK 60Hz 18.5" Monitor

Keyboard: Gear Head KB2500U Wired Slim Keyboard

Mouse: Targus AMU51US Wired Laser Mouse

Total: €1013.10

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 18:26 CEST+0200

 

 

That's a pretty crap build.

[theereal]

nope

I do hope that sarcasm

[theereal]

That's a pretty crap build.

He originally put a Celeron in there look at my earlier quote

[Codymm03]

I do hope that sarcasm

its a joke because in the us you can put a titan x in it and its under $1200

[CatFromSpace]

How 'bout something sensible?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1226 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€235.31 @ Mindfactory) 

Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€82.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€44.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€74.54 @ Mindfactory) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.33 @ Mindfactory) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card  (€346.54 @ Mindfactory) 

Case: Cooler Master Silencio 352 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€62.94 @ Mindfactory) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€79.90 @ Caseking) 

Total: €983.37

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 18:31 CEST+0200

 

That xeon's extra threads'll help when streaming, recording and editing what you've recorded and is around the same price as a 4690, and you can get away with having a cheaper H97 mobo with it too because it's not unlocked. It's essentially a 4790 without the iGPU. If you really want to overclock you could go with a 4690k and a Z97 board for around the same price, but you'll be sacrificing hyperthreading. 

 

Should be fairly quiet in that case, you could get an aftermarket cooler if you want to but the stock'll do fine seeing as you're not going to be overclocking.

[The Official Czex]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€241.70 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

CPU Cooler: Thermaltake CLP0596 88.8 CFM CPU Cooler  (€19.15 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97MX-Gaming 5 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€134.23 @ Home of Hardware DE) 

Memory: Kingston Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€50.89 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Seagate  1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Hybrid Internal Hard Drive  (€75.89 @ Mindfactory) 

Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card  (€320.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Case: Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€60.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Power Supply: Silverstone 500W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  (€85.97 @ Mindfactory) 

Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WN821N 802.11b/g/n USB 2.0 Wi-Fi Adapter  (€10.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Total: €999.81

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 18:45 CEST+0200

[jimakos234]

 

How 'bout something sensible?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

 

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1226 V3 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€235.31 @ Mindfactory) 

Motherboard: MSI H97M-E35 Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€82.91 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury Black 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory  (€44.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€74.54 @ Mindfactory) 

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.33 @ Mindfactory) 

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 390 8GB Nitro Video Card  (€346.54 @ Mindfactory) 

Case: Cooler Master Silencio 352 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (€62.94 @ Mindfactory) 

Power Supply: Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€79.90 @ Caseking) 

Total: €983.37

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 18:31 CEST+0200

 

That xeon's extra threads'll help when streaming, recording and editing what you've recorded and is around the same price as a 4690, and you can get away with having a cheaper H97 mobo with it too because it's not unlocked. It's essentially a 4790 without the iGPU. If you really want to overclock you could go with a 4690k and a Z97 board for around the same price, but you'll be sacrificing hyperthreading. 

 

Should be fairly quiet in that case, you could get an aftermarket cooler if you want to but the stock'll do fine seeing as you're not going to be overclocking.

 

1230 and above are hyperthreaded

1231 v3 is the 4790 with no igpu

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€257.78 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€77.22 @ Mindfactory)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€49.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€74.54 @ Mindfactory)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card  (€332.69 @ Mindfactory)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€82.93 @ Mindfactory)

Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€96.42 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1027.80

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 19:02 CEST+0200

[Elfuego]

1230 and above are hyperthreaded

1231 v3 is the 4790 with no igpu

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€257.78 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€77.22 @ Mindfactory)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€49.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€74.54 @ Mindfactory)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card  (€332.69 @ Mindfactory)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€82.93 @ Mindfactory)

Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€96.42 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1027.80

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 19:02 CEST+0200

 

Id still go the i5 and overclock it, better utility.

[jimakos234]

Id still go the i5 and overclock it, better utility.

Having The extra threads while streaming/video editing will be better tho.

[CatFromSpace]

1230 and above are hyperthreaded

1231 v3 is the 4790 with no igpu

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Xeon E3-1231 V3 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor  (€257.78 @ Mindfactory)

Motherboard: ASRock H97 Anniversary ATX LGA1150 Motherboard  (€77.22 @ Mindfactory)

Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  (€49.89 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  (€74.54 @ Mindfactory)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)

Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 390 8GB SOC Video Card  (€332.69 @ Mindfactory)

Case: NZXT S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  (€82.93 @ Mindfactory)

Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (€96.42 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1027.80

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 19:02 CEST+0200

 

Ah yes, my bad.

[CatFromSpace]

Id still go the i5 and overclock it, better utility.

 

lol, "utility", wtf's this? An extra dimension you've discovered? Could you expand a little perhaps?

[Elfuego]

lol, "utility", wtf's this? An extra dimension you've discovered? Could you expand a little perhaps?

 

Better single core performance matters more in games; and if you overclock the 30%-40% or so thats standard for an i5; itll be better than the Xeon in pretty much everything anyway.

 

Plus if it is doing videotranscodes you can use quicksync.

 

Also Please get a 250gb SSD.. 120GB ssds are just garbage...

 

#120gbSSDsShouldNotBeMade

[jimakos234]

Better single core performance matters more in games; and if you overclock the 30%-40% or so thats standard for an i5; itll be better than the Xeon in pretty much everything anyway.

Lol. the xeon in multitasking will stomp the i5. The xeon 1231 v3 is a 4790 witouth the intel hd. Comparing these 2 is like comparing 4790 and 4690k.

Single core performance yes, the i5 overclock will beat the xeon for sure, but when it comes to multitasking and apps that use all cores, the xeon will outperform the i5.

[Elfuego]

Lol. the xeon in multitasking will stomp the i5. The xeon 1231 v3 is a 4790 witouth the intel hd. Comparing these 2 is like comparing 4790 and 4690k.

Single core performance yes, the i5 overclock will beat the xeon for sure, but when it comes to multitasking and apps that use all cores, the xeon will outperform the i5.

 

In most software hyperthreading is like 8% perf improvement. Aside from a couple of edge cases they will scale better with a 4690K @ 4.6 vs the Xeon (I actually tested this, the difference was tiny - something like 2% variance @ 4.4Ghz) so 4.6 should favor the i5.

 

I *think* I tested against a 3.3Ghz Xeon though, but even so.. not really worth it IMO for the sacrifice in gaming performance. TO be honest most folk these days should probably be streaming via AMD APP/Nvidia Shadowplay or Quicksync so I dont think the CPU perf is that beneficial). Because quicksync encoding for performance is just godly.

[jimakos234]

In most software hyperthreading is like 8% perf improvement. Aside from a couple of edge cases they will scale better with a 4690K @ 4.6 vs the Xeon (I actually tested this, the difference was tiny - something like 2% variance @ 4.4Ghz) so 4.6 should favor the i5.

So instead of going the safe hyperthreading way, lets try out the silicon lottery? Even if things are the way you say tho, pure gaming 4690k, editing and gaming while on budget xeon 1231 v3, else 4790k imo.

[Redicat]

Better single core performance matters more in games; and if you overclock the 30%-40% 

 

Lol 30-40% oc? screenshots? link plz 

[CatFromSpace]

Better single core performance matters more in games; and if you overclock the 30%-40% or so thats standard for an i5; itll be better than the Xeon in pretty much everything anyway.

 

Plus if it is doing videotranscodes you can use quicksync.

 

Also Please get a 250gb SSD.. 120GB ssds are just garbage...

 

#120gbSSDsShouldNotBeMade

If you can fit a 250GB SSD in that budget go ahead lol

if we're talking about streaming, video editing and recording here, that xeon'll easily stomp all over that i5 thanks to the additional threads.

 

 

In most software hyperthreading is like 8% perf improvement. Aside from a couple of edge cases they will scale better with a 4690K @ 4.6 vs the Xeon (I actually tested this, the difference was tiny - something like 2% variance @ 4.4Ghz) so 4.6 should favor the i5.

 

I *think* I tested against a 3.3Ghz Xeon though, but even so.. not really worth it IMO for the sacrifice in gaming performance. TO be honest most folk these days should probably be streaming via AMD APP/Nvidia Shadowplay or Quicksync so I dont think the CPU perf is that beneficial). Because quicksync encoding for performance is just godly.

lol I beg yer pudding? Hyperthreading gives you an additional logical core per physical core. Think there might be something wrong with your benchmarking methodology, mate.

[Caloon]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€271.44 @ Mindfactory)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€34.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€125.78 @ Mindfactory)

Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€65.87 @ Mindfactory)

Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€52.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card (€241.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case (€62.09 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€93.02 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1003.91

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 19:40 CEST+0200

[CatFromSpace]

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€271.44 @ Mindfactory)

CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€34.99 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z170M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€125.78 @ Mindfactory)

Memory: Kingston FURY 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory (€65.87 @ Mindfactory)

Storage: Kingston HyperX Fury 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€52.73 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€56.33 @ Mindfactory)

Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 380 4GB Video Card (€241.66 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case (€62.09 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (€93.02 @ Amazon Deutschland)

Total: €1003.91

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-09-01 19:40 CEST+0200

Skylake i5 and a 380... okey dokey matey. Think you ought to go home. I'll call you a cab.