Why does the general public prefer Nvidia over AMD?

[Windows2000]

So, I was talking with this guy the other day; and he was asking about my PC specs. 

I told him I had a i7-4770K with a R9 290 and he starts to rant about how stupid I was to get a 290. 

I got a barely used 290 (OEM) for around $220 from a friend near the time of its release.

Also, the 290 has more raw performance than the 780 or the 780 Ti according to GPUBoss (crap source, but I'm pretty sure the 290 has a significantly higher floating-point performance score)

 

I honestly think that I had a great buy and I never ever regretted it. (Fking leaf blower but who cares)

He even stated that how Nvidia has longer/better support than Nvidia.

Isn't AMD and Nvidia pretty much identical when it comes to driver supports now?

Why does the public (non-enthusiasts) prefer Nvidia over AMD?

Please try to keep your views within the average consumer's.

 

Please note that this thread is not meant to create a fan-war and people participating should act civilized to an extent where this thread won't get locked....

Behave yourselves... I've seen it happen and it's not fun. D:

My other thread got erased... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD IN ORDER.

[TheSLSAMG]

General perception, brand exposure, power consumption, heat (before someone brings up Thermi, I'm talking about now), features (such as GameStream) and more.

 

Huh, I forgot about CUDA.

[comicsansms]

Because Nvidia has drivers on most releases (Except Windows 10!!!) and games are *Optimised* for Nvidia more often than not.

Plus they have PhysX. 

[airdeano]

you know that isn't going to happen, threads like this are always going to get

flamed, torn and trolled. we'll let it roll, but it is pretty much a locked thread

within two-three pages.

[ClownFace1511]

I have never hated on AMD its just Nvidia seemed to be better (fps) most of the time.

[STRMfrmXMN]

So, I was talking with this guy the other day; and he was asking about my PC specs. 

I told him I had a i7-4770K with a R9 290 and he starts to rant about how stupid I was to get a 290. 

I got a barely used 290 (OEM) for around $220 from a friend near the time of its release.

Also, the 290 has more raw performance than the 780 or the 780 Ti according to GPUBoss (crap source, but I'm pretty sure the 290 has a significantly higher floating-point performance score)

 

I honestly think that I had a great buy and I never ever regretted it. (Fking leaf blower but who cares)

He even stated that how Nvidia has longer/better support than Nvidia.

Isn't AMD and Nvidia pretty much identical when it comes to driver supports now?

Why does the public (non-enthusiasts) prefer Nvidia over AMD?

Please try to keep your views within the average consumer's.

 

Please note that this thread is not meant to create a fan-war and people participating should act civilized to an extent where this thread won't get locked....

Behave yourselves... I've seen it happen and it's not fun. D:

My other thread got erased... PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE KEEP THIS THREAD IN ORDER.

A lot of people roll out the old "AMD cards will burn your house down and multiply your power bill at that." So people who don't know the hardware as well often buy Nvidia cards because of branding. Also some people prefer different drivers and such.

[STRMfrmXMN]

you know that isn't going to happen, threads like this are always going to get

flamed, torn and trolled. we'll let it roll, but it is pretty much a locked thread

within two-three pages.

Ssssh don't jinx it

[alphaproject]

He even stated that how Nvidia has longer/better support than Nvidia.

 

This....

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Its like how the general public(as you say)  like Razer products.

[Killervolt]

Because they're stupid. Nothing wrong with AMD at all

[TheKDub]

Nvidia, features, drivers, lower temps & lower power usage, cuda, and nvidia.

[dukethedj]

Nvidia game works titles running poorly on AMD compared to Nvidia.

 

It's also like people who blindly buy Samsung, and Apple. They do it mostly for the brand name.

[Misanthrope]

Because Nvidia has drivers on most releases (Except Windows 10!!!) and games are *Optimised* for Nvidia more often than not.

Plus they have PhysX. 

 

Bad drivers happen to Nvidia, often too. AMD also has "optimized" games for them like Tomb Raider, Thief, even Battlefield 4 with Mantle, etc. It's just that they're fewer and more spaced out than Nvidia who has a lot more games "optimized" ranging from great ones like Witcher 3 to crap that gets taken off stores like that stupid Batman game.

 

As for the OP question I honestly don't know: you'd think more people would root for the underdog so to speak but well far too many people just read reviews and stuff at face value without looking into things i.e. Linus sometimes prefers Nvidia products for reasons that are appealing almost exclusively to him like the stupid shield console thing he loves, most people don't have that and most people will not use the in home streaming vs just using something more universally and readily available like Steam's in home streaming. 

 

More over people don't understand how business contacts work: Linus has good relationships with Nvidia and gets many samples and such, Jay is close specifically EVGA and Logan usually has good dealings with Zotec and Sapphire so he mostly puts those cards in their builds. It's not that complicated: you build a good working relationship with a company rep and you naturally gravitate towards their products since well nobody else is literally giving you free GPUs to sample them but people interpret this as a preference and then rationalize the choice after the fact instead of seeing it for what it is.

 

That kind of thing can go a long way into creating all sorts of consumer biases eventually.

[SImoHayha]

Them Cuda cores tho

[TheMissxu]

Nvidia pushes a proprietary ecosystem

[EliasNM]

I suppose it has to do with what GPU cores can do, at least for me. For an average consumer Nvidia seems to have more partnerships and therefore appears more on advertising, therefore many deem the item good, not saying AMD is bad but they don't throw enough competition at Nvidia.

[comicsansms]

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I have known of people who deiced on everything (including an AMD card) and then realised that the game they want to play has this

Then change their whole build because of that!

[Cvdasfg]

I have a few reasons I personally use them. I'll try and keep this simple and short.

 

My first build had a fx8350 with a 7970 in it. Worked great. BUT was so noisy that I could hear it in other rooms. This was obviously a cheap build.

 

My next build I decided to use a 780ti and let me tell you the features are great. It had gsync, streaming to other devices, updates often, cool, quit, ect

 

 

Heres my opinion now a few years later. AMD is great for lower end stuff. APU's and that sort of thing. If your going to buy an expensive card then your most likely going to have a nice case, cpu, cooler, ect so why not get the ones that are cooler temperature wise and have more support for cooling options ( atleast from what i have found) .

 

Just my two cents. I had a 290x2 ( or whatever the heck that thing is called) returned it and got a 980ti instead. Works much better for me and was able to find water blocks easily for it.

 

EDIT: As others have stated. It is widely considered "better" which is also a bonus as a lot of games are optimized for nvdida. Also has CUDA cores and shadowplay. 

[Thebman712]

Its basically what the general public thinks. Most oems also ship with nvidia so a average kid sees the high end alienware rig with gtx cards over radeon cards hes going to think nvidia is better.

[Misanthrope]

I have known of people who deiced on everything (including an AMD card) and then realised that the game they want to play has this

Then change their whole build because of that!

 

Funny thing is a lot of the times, a similarly priced AMD card will match or beat the Nvidia card, seal of approval or not.

[hypnodog]

I have known of people who deiced on everything (including an AMD card) and then realised that the game they want to play has this

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Then change their whole build because of that!

To be honest, that is the main reason I've been using Nvidia cards since 2006 The only AMD/ATi GPU powered system was when I had a Wii and when I used an Xbox One lol.

[comicsansms]

Funny thing is a lot of the times, a similarly priced AMD card will match or beat the Nvidia card, seal of approval or not.

I know.

[Vivilacqua1]

A lot of people roll out the old "AMD cards will burn your house down and multiply your power bill at that." So people who don't know the hardware as well often buy Nvidia cards because of branding. Also some people prefer different drivers and such.

"Burn down your house", only when you overclock them, I know.

 

But one great thing about AMD cards is Linux support.

[KemoKa]

Because Nvidia is better at marketing. And because their cards are objectively better (because they're better at running DX11 - which is highly serial - than AMD's decidedly parallel architectures.)

Hopefully things will change when the new APIs come into vogue. Finally those asynchronous shaders will do their job. The thing is that AMD's mid-end cards from three years ago are still competing head-to-head with Nvidia's current lineup, so for the price at that end of the spectrum, AMD makes more sense from a financial perspective. With DX12 and Vulkan they'll gain some ground.

Not hating on Nvidia. Not at all. My laptop is a wonderful performer. But I still think AMD's cards have potential based on what we've seen in preliminary benchmarks of DirectX 12.

 

In OpenCL, AMD's cards are absolute monsters, especially the workstation cards.

Now I'm going to be yelled at for being a "butthurt fanboy", but that's just what I think. I don't think AMD's cards are out of the ring just yet.

[KemoKa]

"Burn down your house", only when you overclock them, I know.

 

But one great thing about AMD cards is Linux support.

This. Nvidia's drivers, you have to SSH into the machine to finish the driver install because the screen goes black. Derp. Thanks Nvidia

Oh, and Linus Torvalds loathes them.