Experiences with non-techies

[Zoravar]

11 minutes ago, Luc401 said:

OH GOD VMware Horizon the pain......... We've been using citrix on a nutanix system. I called lenovo to get priving on some of their thin clients a year ago and they said "dont go thin client, companys normally switch back after a few years" i was like uhh arnt you suppose to try to sell me something...?

 

Ironically I had the opposite experience.  I tried out my high school's VMware system and it worked perfectly (being able to transfer my active session from one terminal to another was awesome).  My college had a Citrix system and it was absolute c***.  The tech guys at the college couldn't wait to get rid of it, but they didn't have the funding.  I guess it completely depends on how you have it set up and configured. 

[Zoravar]

20 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Here is one for you guys. My mom is cleaning and showing me cords. Like I know what the fuck they are for. They are non-standard power cables. How in the blue hell am I suppose to ID cables that I have no clue what they are for? 

 

"But you're a 'tech guy', you're supposed to instantly know what everything is and how it works."  -My experience many times....

[Luc401]

1 hour ago, Zoravar said:

Ironically I had the opposite experience.  I tried out my high school's VMware system and it worked perfectly (being able to transfer my active session from one terminal to another was awesome).  My college had a Citrix system and it was absolute c***.  The tech guys at the college couldn't wait to get rid of it, but they didn't have the funding.  I guess it completely depends on how you have it set up and configured. 

Was your colledge using xendesktop? With citrix's zenapp. Citrix xendesktop can be configured so many ways.

[Kyouske]

I also have experience with a coworker of mine.

He does a lot of electronic stuff, but he has no idea how the stuff with PC works. His old Medion PC  (from a local supermarket) was 8 years old and suuper slow, due to the mass of programs and viruses. Yes, he even had no antivirus installed. 

So I got him used hardware from my brother, an AMD Phenom II X4, Asus motherboard, 16GB of RAM and so on. The drive was used from the old one, but I recommendet buying a new one and also a deamn Windows license. For no reason he got a crack of win7 on his Device. Unfortunately the old installation on the HDD didn´t work, so we left it as it was. He always complains about having no money for stuff like that and the unfunctional hardware in his room.

 

...

 

Buys Mac Book Pro while complainning that the PC assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

 

I can´t understand people like that. Really, I think he is an idiot.

[Space Reptile]

2 minutes ago, Kyouske said:

Buys Mac Book Pro  while complainning that the PC  assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

[Bananasplit_00]

9 minutes ago, Kyouske said:

I also have experience with a coworker of mine.

He does a lot of electronic stuff, but he has no idea how the stuff with PC works. His old Medion PC  (from a local supermarket) was 8 years old and suuper slow, due to the mass of programs and viruses. Yes, he even had no antivirus installed. 

So I got him used hardware from my brother, an AMD Phenom II X4, Asus motherboard, 16GB of RAM and so on. The drive was used from the old one, but I recommendet buying a new one and also a deamn Windows license. For no reason he got a crack of win7 on his Device. Unfortunately the old installation on the HDD didn´t work, so we left it as it was. He always complains about having no money for stuff like that and the unfunctional hardware in his room.

 

...

 

Buys Mac Book Pro while complainning that the PC assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

 

I can´t understand people like that. Really, I think he is an idiot.

main reason i dont make other people PCs...

[Zoravar]

2 hours ago, Luc401 said:

Was your colledge using xendesktop? With citrix's zenapp. Citrix xendesktop can be configured so many ways.

 

So this is how my college broke down:  They were using Citrix (not sure what program specifically) to manage computer log-in.  However, once authenticated, everyone shared the same local user account (if you left a file on the desktop and someone else logged in with their credentials, the file was there for them too).  The desktops were not virtualized (except for the few thin clients they had).  

 

They did run "virtualized" apps on the desktops using another Citrix application (possibly an XenApp, because I remember seeing a Xen program running in the tasktray and the "virtualized" apps wouldn't run without it loaded).  But the way they configured it was weird/not what I would expect.  Basically, whenever you opened a "virtualized" app it would copy the program files from a network directory to the local computer and run it.  The copy was done over a 100mb connection for a lot of computers, so if it was a larger program like MatLab, it would take a couple minutes (longer if multiple people were starting at the same time, such as a class). 

 

Then when the computer was restarted, everything was reset.  I don't know what they used to accomplish this but it behaved a lot of Deep Freeze. 

 

Bear in mind if this sounds like some old, outdated version of Citrix software or configuration, it probably was.  Some of the computers were running really old, probably unsupported software.  For example office 2003 in 2014 and I'm also pretty sure I saw some XP machines lurking in the dark corners.  

 

Personally, I have only seen and worked with both the user and admin side of the VMWare solution my high school employed.  I have only seen and worked with the user side of whatever Citrix implementation my college was using.  I haven't been to a site that's running a modern Citrix Virtualization solution, so I have no idea how good a proper, modern set up is.    

 

[Zoravar]

34 minutes ago, Kyouske said:

Buys Mac Book Pro while complainning that the PC assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

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I'm sorry.... I just can't..... 

[soldier_ph]

1 hour ago, Kyouske said:

 

 

 

 

Buys Mac Book Pro while complainning that the PC assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

 

 

#Facepalm

[DocSwag]

2 hours ago, Kyouske said:

He always complains about having no money for stuff like that

 

2 hours ago, Kyouske said:

Buys Mac Book Pro while complainning that the PC assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

I just... I just... I don't know what to say.

[matrix07012]

https://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Palladium-970Z-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01DOB71X0/

Talk about price/performance ratio

[Donut417]

2 hours ago, Kyouske said:

Buys Mac Book Pro while complainning that the PC assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

There are two types of people in this world. Reasonable people like us and MAC users. 

 

That being said, I know a lot of people like Apples products. While I have very limited experience using MAC OS. I have heard is a fairly good OS. If he wants to pay a higher price for lower end hardware then let him. 

 

Your cowoker sounds like my dads cowoker. Refuses to work over time and has no money. Why, because he buys and drinks a 6 pack of beer every day and has to support his wife and kids who dont work. On top of the fact he had a house given to him, free of charge. Dumb ass put a mortgage on the house. 

[BingoFishy]

1 minute ago, matrix07012 said:

https://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Palladium-970Z-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01DOB71X0/

Talk about price/performance ratio

I like how there's a cheaper option with a 1060 on the same page.

[BingoFishy]

1 minute ago, Donut417 said:

There are two types of people in this world. Reasonable people like us and MAC users. 

 

That being said, I know a lot of people like Apples products. While I have very limited experience using MAC OS. I have heard is a fairly good OS. If he wants to pay a higher price for lower end hardware then let him. 

 

Your cowoker sounds like my dads cowoker. Refuses to work over time and has no money. Why, because he buys and drinks a 6 pack of beer every day and has to support his wife and kids who dont work. On top of the fact he had a house given to him, free of charge. Dumb ass put a mortgage on the house. 

Yeah I made a hackintosh just to try it out and macOS is quite nice. I would probably be using it rn but I can't get sound to work.

[Bananasplit_00]

31 minutes ago, matrix07012 said:

https://www.amazon.com/CybertronPC-Palladium-970Z-Gaming-Desktop/dp/B01DOB71X0/

Talk about price/performance ratio

why the hell is the one with a 1060 3GB cheaper  

[Bananasplit_00]

30 minutes ago, BingoFishy said:

Yeah I made a hackintosh just to try it out and macOS is quite nice. I would probably be using it rn but I can't get sound to work.

i REALLY dislike OSX, it feels locked down. i would love to rock some Linux distro but there are almost no games for Linux, atleast not the ones i play

[BingoFishy]

32 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

i REALLY dislike OSX, it feels locked down. i would love to rock some Linux distro but there are almost no games for Linux, atleast not the ones i play

I haven't really used it enough to compare it to Windows well.

[Bananasplit_00]

Just now, BingoFishy said:

I haven't really used it enough to compare it to Windows well.

i have had to use it on the family Imac and my moms MBP, whie i really like the build of the MBP 2013(IIRC) i dont like the operating system, the looks much and the price tag. there isnt much free stuff for OSX and its not as easy to find what you are looking from from my experience, i bet people who use OSX a lot will tell me otherwise

[BingoFishy]

4 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

i have had to use it on the family Imac and my moms MBP, whie i really like the build of the MBP 2013(IIRC) i dont like the operating system, the looks much and the price tag. there isnt much free stuff for OSX and its not as easy to find what you are looking from from my experience, i bet people who use OSX a lot will tell me otherwise

Yeah a lot of it is quite different from Windows. I did hackintosh because I don't have a mac. I got the install stuff from a VM. From what I've used of it a lot of it I've got used to but I don't have enough stuff on it to do a good comparison.

[PLME888]

43 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

why the hell is the one with a 1060 3GB cheaper  

i7-6700 vs i7-6700K

 

That's why

[themctipers]

11 hours ago, Luc401 said:

It triggers me so bad. Especially with computers with SSDs being able to reboot in a few seconds. WHY NOT REBOOT WHEN IT SO EASY AND FAST. With older PCs that take 10 minutes to boot i see why, but OMG. I worked at an organization for 2  summers now and all the employee typically try rebooting their pcs when they have a problem, saves us a lot of time.

My grandmas PC boots up faster with a hard drive than my PC with a SSD. 

11 hours ago, Luc401 said:

2 years ago we did a windows xp to windows 8.1 migration for over 250 PC's some of the pcs were most than 10 years old and took 1 hour to boot..... Probably increased productivity with the change... Now we are migrating to thin clients everywhere.

My school still uses leopard and iMac G5. 

8 hours ago, Kyouske said:

I also have experience with a coworker of mine.

He does a lot of electronic stuff, but he has no idea how the stuff with PC works. His old Medion PC  (from a local supermarket) was 8 years old and suuper slow, due to the mass of programs and viruses. Yes, he even had no antivirus installed. 

So I got him used hardware from my brother, an AMD Phenom II X4, Asus motherboard, 16GB of RAM and so on. The drive was used from the old one, but I recommendet buying a new one and also a deamn Windows license. For no reason he got a crack of win7 on his Device. Unfortunately the old installation on the HDD didn´t work, so we left it as it was. He always complains about having no money for stuff like that and the unfunctional hardware in his room.

 

...

 

Buys Mac Book Pro while complainning that the PC assembled by me doesn´t work yet.

 

I can´t understand people like that. Really, I think he is an idiot.

Maybe he used some tool by daz 

5 hours ago, Donut417 said:

There are two types of people in this world. Reasonable people like us and MAC users. 

 

That being said, I know a lot of people like Apples products. While I have very limited experience using MAC OS. I have heard is a fairly good OS. If he wants to pay a higher price for lower end hardware then let him. 

 

Your cowoker sounds like my dads cowoker. Refuses to work over time and has no money. Why, because he buys and drinks a 6 pack of beer every day and has to support his wife and kids who dont work. On top of the fact he had a house given to him, free of charge. Dumb ass put a mortgage on the house. 

I like Mac but I'd never pay for one. Apple discord has ruined any chance of me buying it by all the cons that they've showed me.

starting at $1800 CAD

[Droidbot]

at my school we have supplied laptops running Win7 with locked bios. 

we all have user accounts that have no privileges besides basic customization, and the anti-virus picks up programs like steam as well. most people that are into tech like me want more privileges, so we found a way to abuse sticky keys and open up a command prompt at school, allowing the creation of new user accounts with admin privileges. 

 

some sportyfag finds out about this and gives admin to pretty much everybody in the grade. when doing so, he erases the administrator password instead of making a new user account and then giving it privileges. IT did a scan on all of the machines to make sure that the local admin account password is their preset one, and suspended all the user accounts of the people who had changed it.

 

they had a flood of year 7 students whose computers didn't work for around a week. the kid also got suspended, and i've had it for almost 3 years now and everything still works, never been caught. 

 

may I also add that a load of people he gave it to and did it correctly (making a new acc) have machines full of fucking malware and spyware

[themctipers]

7 minutes ago, Droidbot said:

at my school we have supplied laptops running Win7 with locked bios. 

we all have user accounts that have no privileges besides basic customization, and the anti-virus picks up programs like steam as well. most people that are into tech like me want more privileges, so we found a way to abuse sticky keys and open up a command prompt at school, allowing the creation of new user accounts with admin privileges. 

 

some sportyfag finds out about this and gives admin to pretty much everybody in the grade. when doing so, he erases the administrator password instead of making a new user account and then giving it privileges. IT did a scan on all of the machines to make sure that the local admin account password is their preset one, and suspended all the user accounts of the people who had changed it.

 

they had a flood of year 7 students whose computers didn't work for around a week. the kid also got suspended, and i've had it for almost 3 years now and everything still works, never been caught. 

 

may I also add that a load of people he gave it to and did it correctly (making a new acc) have machines full of fucking malware and spyware

Lucky. We have single core AMD laptops running vista with beats audio from 2007

 

no, we can't bring them home. It's only used during school. 

[Droidbot]

1 minute ago, themctipers said:

Lucky. We have single core AMD laptops running vista with beats audio from 2007

 

no, we can't bring them home. It's only used during school. 

 

trust me, we have a shitload of junkware on there that makes doing anything slow. when the AV scans it maxes out the CPU at 100% and it hovers around 50% at idle. I don't even use the machine at home even though I can bring it home. 

[themctipers]

Just now, Droidbot said:

trust me, we have a shitload of junkware on there that makes doing anything slow. when the AV scans it maxes out the CPU at 100% and it hovers around 50% at idle. I don't even use the machine at home even though I can bring it home. 

We only have internet explorer and what we need this to work on (Google drive) isn't supported on IE 7..

everything is disabled. Not even task manager is allowed anymore. (It was previously, that was how I got my specs of the laptop)

 

1gb of ram.