Can a 980 stay above 60FPS on ultra settings in 1440p?

[maizenblue]

I have a gtx 980 ACX 2.0 SC that is massive overkill for my 1080p monitor, but im not sure if it can handle 1440p on ultra settings while staying above 60 plus FPS on a game like bf4, never mind future titles.

 

Anyone have a gtx 980 and find it can stay above 60 FPS on ultra settings in BF4 in multiplayer? I prefer having AA enabled, because the whole point of the higher resolution is better visuals, so why pay for a 1440p monitor if I have to disable things like that to play.

 

Is that simply asking too much of this card? I read people saying a single 980 is plenty for 1440p, but reviews ive seen show it hovering around 56-59 FPS in BF4 on average, which means continuous dips below 60.

 

Im just debating whether a 1440p monitor is worth the money if it means I have to lower settings to stay above 60 FPS. At the same time I feel like im wasting the graphics power of this card gaming at 1080p 60hz.

[Lays]

Most likely yes.

 

I used to play with a single 970 at 1440p, very very rarely did I ever have to turn settings down to get more than 60 FPS.

 

 

Only reason I even bought a second 970 was because my case looked empty, LOL.

[Critizin]

my single 980 runs every game ive thrown at it on ultra settings on my 1440p..  battlefield 4 and battlefield hardline are a breeze to run, 

[Dzzope]

Higher res = less need for AA..

 

And no.. it won't stay over 60fpr @1440

(@ stock settings.. The OC is part of the card name)

[Thebman712]

yes it will

[Critizin]

Higher res = less need for AA..

 

And no.. it won't stay over 60fpr @1440

(@ stock settings.. The OC is part of the card name)

Except why the hell would you run MSAA at 1440p. 1440p you dont need AA. i have no problems staying above 60 fps.

[Critizin]

infact i get like 80-150 fps on ultra in 1440p

[Dzzope]

He wants AA, I see a difference myself up to 4x.. 8x gives near nothing @1440

[Lays]

I can't imagine a single 980 is going to struggle,  I actually hit the FPS cap in 64 player maps quite a lot with 2 970's.  (200)

[maizenblue]

So from what I can gather, it can stay above 60 FPS on ultra minus the AA, but 4x MSAA and it wont quite average 60 FPS, which is kind of what I figured. Since I require at least 60fps in a first person shooter game like bf4, that means no AA for me.

 

I know at 1080p the 4x MSAA looks noticeably better, having never seen it at 1440p I cant say whether that is still the case. I could certainly live without it, but the issue is whether its worth spending over 400 USD on a 1440p monitor.  Is the image quality of 1440p minus AA  400 dollars better than 1080p with 4xAA?

[maizenblue]

Higher res = less need for AA..

 

And no.. it won't stay over 60fpr @1440

(@ stock settings.. The OC is part of the card name)

 

Thanks. Yeah 55 FPS average would be too low for me, I can imagine it slowing to 40 with explosions and challenging maps. 2xmsaa might give me a little north of 60fps but I could still imagine frequent dips.

 

Seems to me the 980 kind of sits in a tough spot. Massive overkill for 1080p, but still falls just short of handling 1440p on ultra in all games. I would have gone with a 970 at 1080p, and SLI it for 1440p, but the vram thing annoyed me.(so I rewarded Nvidias bad behavior by buying a more expensive card, stupid I know).

[ErickS89]

To answer the question, it depends on the game but generally yes.

[Dzzope]

Thing is thats everything at ultra and with stock cards.. OC will give you 10% ish... There are also many settings that make minimal visual impact (from ultra to high at least) but really hurt FPS that you could tone down a notch.

 

Why do you need 60 FPS?

IPS isn't great for shooters anyway unless you get something that is really fast like the acer predator.. but then you would need dual 970's or 80's.

 

(980ti some point over / after the summer too BTW. Though you can bet (unless the 3xx is awesome and reasonably priced) that it wil be 7xxUSD.

[Jarsky]

I play BF4 @ 4K in High with some Ultra settings, HBAO, and vsync on and I sit around the 60FPS mark with dips to about 50-52FPS.

Surely it should handle 2K just fine (as long as you dont have ridiculous AA settings)

[maizenblue]

Thing is thats everything at ultra and with stock cards.. OC will give you 10% ish... There are also many settings that make minimal visual impact (from ultra to high at least) but really hurt FPS that you could tone down a notch.

 

Why do you need 60 FPS?

IPS isn't great for shooters anyway unless you get something that is really fast like the acer predator.. but then you would need dual 970's or 80's.

 

(980ti some point over / after the summer too BTW. Though you can bet (unless the 3xx is awesome and reasonably priced) that it wil be 7xxUSD.

 

I've heard the ACX 2.0 SC is not a good overclocker at all, and some people aren't getting much, if anything beyond the stock overclock, which might net another 2 or 3 FPS. If I get it to overclock well I might be more likely to get the 1440p monitor(I haven't even installed the card yet since im doing my final exams for school and have zero time for gaming).

 

As for why I need 60 FPS, I've always heard that dropping below 60 FPS is the point at which it can become noticeable and affect gameplay, and from what Ive seen that is the case, and 60 hz is likely going to be the refresh rate of any 1440p monitor I get, since the higher ones like the ROG swift are twice as expensive.

I play BF4 @ 4K in High with some Ultra settings, HBAO, and vsync on and I sit around the 60FPS mark with dips to about 50-52FPS.

Surely it should handle 2K just fine (as long as you dont have ridiculous AA settings)

 

 Im talking about ONE 980.

[Jarsky]

 Im talking about ONE 980.

 

 

I'm talking about on ONE 980 too. I'm not going to compare an apple to two apples

[Dzzope]

 

As for why I need 60 FPS, I've always heard that dropping below 60 FPS is the point at which it can become noticeable and affect gameplay, and from what Ive seen that is the case, and 60 hz is likely going to be the refresh rate of any 1440p monitor I get, since the higher ones like the ROG swift are twice as expensive.

 

Dips happen with every card, you'll only really notice them with V-sync on.. Instead of using v-sync, just limit the cards FPS to that of your monitors refresh rate.. Won't totally eliminate any tearing but it'll still be smooth. I get dips with sli 780s.. You would get dips (though smaller ones) with a TitanX.. Fact of gaming life.. Don't mind dips too much so long as they aren't too low.

 

Also, look into a gsync monitor.. Be perfect for what your looking for

[Critizin]

so because i dont trust bench marks anymore, i went and did a test run of ultra, with 4xMSAA on.. and i was getting 75-90 FPS never droped below 75.. 

This is why you never go by benchmarks they suck.

[msvelev]

so because i dont trust bench marks anymore, i went and did a test run of ultra, with 4xMSAA on.. and i was getting 75-90 FPS never droped below 75.. 

This is why you never go by benchmarks they suck.

Indeed I got a 970 G1 Gaming last week and I see much better performance than I expected. Everyone says that it's a 1440p card that can handle high settings at nearly 60fps where the case is, it can handle most demanding games at ultra, and a bit older at even 4K.

I played to DmC: Devil May Cry at 4k absolute max settings, with nearly 100fps(Stayed on the vsync 60 after I tested a bit). There are like 6 new games that it can't handle at higher resolution, people forget that the majority of games that people play aren't FC4.

[SteveGrabowski]

Most likely yes.

 

I used to play with a single 970 at 1440p, very very rarely did I ever have to turn settings down to get more than 60 FPS.

 

 

Only reason I even bought a second 970 was because my case looked empty, LOL.

 

What games are you playing? I know this resolution is slightly higher than 1440p, but gamegpu's benchmarks are not even close to a locked 60 FPS in some games without AA

 

 

 

 

[GodSpoon]

Of course it will

 

In most anything currently anyways

 

Dont expect much though if you start pushing that

[typographie]

so because i dont trust bench marks anymore, i went and did a test run of ultra, with 4xMSAA on.. and i was getting 75-90 FPS never droped below 75.. 

This is why you never go by benchmarks they suck.

 

I think you might be misunderstanding the point of benchmarks. If nothing else, if you're just going to test everything yourself that's going to get awfully expensive unless you're getting press samples or something.

 

A game benchmark is usually tested in the harshest place the testers can find that is repeatable. Naturally the results are going to be somewhat lower than what you may get on your own with intelligent tweaking and in some random areas of the game.

[Critizin]

I think you might be misunderstanding the point of benchmarks. If nothing else, if you're just going to test everything yourself that's going to get awfully expensive unless you're getting press samples or something.

A game benchmark is usually tested in the harshest place the testers can find that is repeatable. Naturally the results are going to be somewhat lower than what you may get on your own with intelligent tweaking and in some random areas of the game.

That's the thing though even scripted benchmarks like heaven, 3d Mark, or like last light metro bench marks I have always performed significantly better with the same settings. It's like benchmarkers take there results and - like 10% performance I have never come close to having numbers as low as any benchmark

[NeatSquidYT]

Thing is thats everything at ultra and with stock cards.. OC will give you 10% ish... There are also many settings that make minimal visual impact (from ultra to high at least) but really hurt FPS that you could tone down a notch.

 

Why do you need 60 FPS?

IPS isn't great for shooters anyway unless you get something that is really fast like the acer predator.. but then you would need dual 970's or 80's.

 

(980ti some point over / after the summer too BTW. Though you can bet (unless the 3xx is awesome and reasonably priced) that it wil be 7xxUSD.

dude, as long as the input lag is less than 10ms, it's fine

[maizenblue]

so because i dont trust bench marks anymore, i went and did a test run of ultra, with 4xMSAA on.. and i was getting 75-90 FPS never droped below 75.. 

This is why you never go by benchmarks they suck.

Did it look noticeably better with the 4x msaa on?