Nvidia Amd Rant

[spartaman64]

What really annoys me with amd and nvidia is that they develop all these cool technologies (true audio, phys x, tress fx) but then they are never widely used because its locked to nvidia or amd and most developers decide its not worth it. They need to figure something out like maybe offer a cheap licensing deal. Also why isn't nvidia developing support for adaptive sync. I don't see any downsides if their gpus support both g sync and adaptive sync while amd gpus only support adaptive sync nvidia can get a leg up. If things don't change down the road there could be more exciting technologies than the ones that exist currently but they just die out because nvidia and amd couldn't cooperate.

 

EDIT: can you guys think of anyways to try to solve this problem

[minibois]

Well Nvidia made PhysX available for dev for everyone right? 

[Majestic]

I should do a rant on useless rants. With 20% less punctuation.

[Swndlr]

delete this before fanboys find it plz

[spartaman64]

Well Nvidia made PhysX available for dev for everyone right? 

can physx now run on amd gpus?

[spartaman64]

delete this before fanboys find it plz

im not singling out any company im complaining about both of them

[VortexS]

can physx now run on amd gpus?

Nope

[minibois]

can physx now run on amd gpus?

Well Nvidia made the source code available, so I suppose AMD could use it to make it work on their GPU's..

You still made a point with Nvidia not wanting to let others (AKA AMD) use G-Sync and they having to use freesync.. It makes for a weird market.

[Swndlr]

im not singling out any company im complaining about both of them

fanboys will find a way to argue, as always

[spartaman64]

Well Nvidia made the source code available, so I suppose AMD could use it to make it work on their GPU's..

You still made a point with Nvidia not wanting to let others (AKA AMD) use G-Sync and they having to use freesync.. It makes for a weird market.

i think if g sync is only an nvidia thing and free sync is only amd adaptive refresh rate monitors both g sync and free sync will die out and that would suck. 

[Guest Kloaked]

What really annoys me with amd and nvidia is that they develop all these cool technologies (true audio, phys x, tress fx) but then they are never widely used because its locked to nvidia or amd and most developers decide its not worth it. They need to figure something out like maybe offer a cheap licensing deal.

They're not widely used because (I would think) some programmers will just use the engine effects (which are almost as good, if not better) or write their own.

Also why isn't nvidia developing support for adaptive sync. I don't see any downsides if their gpus support both g sync and adaptive sync while amd gpus only support adaptive sync nvidia can get a leg up. If things don't change down the road there could be more exciting technologies than the ones that exist currently but they just die out because nvidia and amd couldn't cooperate.

We dunno. Some speculate that the G-Sync module isn't going to go away for standalone monitors, but instead have some more special sauce other than a variable refresh rate for the monitor it's on. For laptops, we'll likely see a non G-Sync module version of G-Sync based on a previous leak of a driver that enabled G-Sync on a laptop.

I honestly don't care about Nvidia's or AMD's special effects lately, personally. I've been seeing better in-engine shaders/shadows/particle effects/etc than what they have come up with.

[spartaman64]

They're not widely used because (I would think) some programmers will just use the engine effects (which are almost as good, if not better) or write their own.

We dunno. Some speculate that the G-Sync module isn't going to go away for standalone monitors, but instead have some more special sauce other than a variable refresh rate for the monitor it's on. For laptops, we'll likely see a non G-Sync module version of G-Sync based on a previous leak of a driver that enabled G-Sync on a laptop.

I honestly don't care about Nvidia's or AMD's special effects lately, personally. I've been seeing better in-engine shaders/shadows/particle effects/etc than what they have come up with.

when you look at phys x demos it actually looks really cool but games either don't use it or many of the games that support phys x doesnt use it to its full potential 

[Guest Kloaked]

when you look at phys x demos it actually looks really cool but games either don't use it or many of the games that support phys x doesnt use it to its full potential

Because it's a demo. They fabricate them to show what PhysX could do to make it look nice, when in reality the game engines today support effects that look just as nice, if not better.

It's sorta the same thing with game demo's at E3, specifically from Ubisoft in the past couple of years. They'll make a demonstration of the game (Watch_Dogs anyone?) and come release day it looks and plays nothing like what was shown when it was revealed.

[spartaman64]

Because it's a demo. They fabricate them to show what PhysX could do to make it look nice, when in reality the game engines today support effects that look just as nice, if not better.

It's sorta the same thing with game demo's at E3, specifically from Ubisoft in the past couple of years. They'll make a demonstration of the game (Watch_Dogs anyone?) and come release day it looks and plays nothing like what was shown when it was revealed.

well thats because its ubisoft so that example doesnt entirely convince me. and i think the tressfx hair in tomb raider looked incredible and i dont see why they cant do that to other things than hair

[Guest Kloaked]

well thats because its ubisoft so that example doesnt entirely convince me. and i think the tressfx hair in tomb raider looked incredible and i dont see why they cant do that to other things than hair

Has nothing to do with Ubisoft really, it's the concept. You see something pretty being presented to you, but the actual product you get in your hands looks not as pretty.

and honestly the hair in Tomb Raider with TressFX is just a stepping stone. It looks bad and I preferred it off. I need to see a game with better implementation than that because it looked like the hair didn't match the environment.

[Aphala]

What really annoys me with amd and nvidia is that they develop all these cool technologies (true audio, phys x, tress fx) but then they are never widely used because its locked to nvidia or amd and most developers decide its not worth it. They need to figure something out like maybe offer a cheap licensing deal. Also why isn't nvidia developing support for adaptive sync. I don't see any downsides if their gpus support both g sync and adaptive sync while amd gpus only support adaptive sync nvidia can get a leg up. If things don't change down the road there could be more exciting technologies than the ones that exist currently but they just die out because nvidia and amd couldn't cooperate.

 

EDIT: can you guys think of anyways to try to solve this problem

Didn't AMD make true audio? 

 

Edit: Being a tool ignore me...

 

Edit 2: Maybe (this is silly) but if AMD/Nvidia co operate on a GPU make one with ALL Nvidia and AMD tech (even though it would cost a lot!) I think it would be cool make it a 10 year anniversary thing say 2015 > 2025 > 2035 (if they still exist) Yellow brand!! Nviamd?

[alphaproject]

Adaptive V-sync still has lag. Unfortunately. That is all I wanted to say. It certainly looks good visually but if you feel lag...like in MP games....it's goes bye bye.

 

I tried it in War Thunder and didn't like it.

 

Have not tried in any other game.

[FLUFFYJELLO]

Since nvidia made the source code for PhysX available I saw a huge step forward by the specific game developer who makes Warframe. If you have an nvidia card, you can enable "PhysX" and get all the cool partial effects and doodads. But then they have another setting in the bars called "particle acceleration engine". On nvidia cards the option is blacked out, but on AMD's cards you can enable that setting and boom! PhysX particle effects on your AMD card.

Kudos to those developers for making their game graphically amazing for everyone (and it's free to play). This is the closest thing I can think of to what you're talking about.