upgrading to 4690k from 4440

[Matt_Twinkletoes]

so I'm going to be using a i5 4440 with an h81 board, and I want to know if I ever wanted to upgrade in the future to lets say a 4690k would I need to purchase a new mobo too? sense h81 boards do not have haswell refresh when I update drivers/bios would it then be compatible with something like a 4690k? 

[Str_Mape]

As long as you update the bios to a more recent one with haswell refresh support you'll be fine although there's no real point in going from a 4440 to a 4690k.

[niofalpha]

A. Their would be no point in going from a 4440 to a 4690K.

B. If you did, you could either update the Bios but not be able to Over Clock.

[MRE Teck]

I THINK you can use the h81

[Aniallation]

so I'm going to be using a i5 4440 with an h81 board, and I want to know if I ever wanted to upgrade in the future to lets say a 4690k would I need to purchase a new mobo too? sense h81 boards do not have haswell refresh when I update drivers/bios would it then be compatible with something like a 4690k? 

There would be no benefit with an H81 board since you can not overclock. You will need to upgrade to a Z97 to overclock and at that point it would not be worth the upgrade cost.

[Matt_Twinkletoes]

There would be no benefit with an H81 board since you can not overclock. You will need to upgrade to a Z97 to overclock and at that point it would not be worth the upgrade cost.

 

the 4440 wont bottleneck high end cards like a 980 right? (im guessing no it won't, just want to make sure sorry for stupid question).

[i_build_nanosuits]

the 4440 wont bottleneck high end cards like a 980 right? (im guessing no it won't, just want to make sure sorry for stupid question).

in the vast majority of games, no it won't.

[Aniallation]

the 4440 wont bottleneck high end cards like a 980 right? (im guessing no it won't, just want to make sure sorry for stupid question).

Single 980, nope.

[Aniallation]

in the vast majority of games, no it won't.

And the ones that it would bottleneck are?

[i_build_nanosuits]

And the ones that it would bottleneck are?

some MMO'S and some RTS..some very demanding games such as dragon age inquisition and assassin's creed unity will see some slight dips in GPU usage at times but nothing major.

It's mostly in mmo's which of course do not stress the GPU much where the CPU will be the weakest link by a long shot...games such as arma 3 and dayz for example...bad games.

[HmmR]

some MMO'S and some RTS..some very demanding games such as dragon age inquisition and assassin's creed unity will see some slight dips in GPU usage at times but nothing major.

It's mostly in mmo's which of course do not stress the GPU much where the CPU will be the weakest link by a long shot...games such as arma 3 and dayz for example...bad games.

hell no there wont be any bottlenecking 

[i_build_nanosuits]

hell no there wont be any bottlenecking

you're funny!

The i5-4440, like any other CPU, can bottleneck ANY GPU. It absolutely can and will bottleneck the GPU given the right conditions.

If an overclocked i7-4790K can bottleneck a GTX760 or R9 270 in existing strategy games, MMOs, and compute intensive multiplayer games, then there's no reason to assume that a weaker CPU could never bottleneck an even more powerful GPU.

[Dabombinable]

There would be no benefit with an H81 board since you can not overclock. You will need to upgrade to a Z97 to overclock and at that point it would not be worth the upgrade cost.

Surprisingly, you can overclock on Hx7 motherboards, just the actual ability varies. Just look at the B85 boards ASUS makes-some of those are designed for overclocking.

[Aniallation]

Surprisingly, you can overclock on Hx7 motherboards, just the actual ability varies. Just look at the B85 boards ASUS makes-some of those are designed for overclocking.

Yes some B85 and Hx7 boards do have "unofficial" overclocking capabilities. AsRock's B85 Killer and MSI's B85 GAMING are good examples, but there's no H81 board with overclocking enabled for K-series chips, only the G3258.

[Sintezza]

There will allways be a bottleneck at a certain point.

 

But upgrading from a i5-4440 to a 4690k is basicly a waste of money.

[Dabombinable]

Yes some B85 and Hx7 boards do have "unofficial" overclocking capabilities. AsRock's B85 Killer and MSI's B85 GAMING are good examples, but there's no H81 board with overclocking enabled for K-series chips, only the G3258.

Want to bet? http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/H81GAMER/#H81-specs

[i_build_nanosuits]

There will allways be a bottleneck at a certain point.

exactly, it depends on the workload...i've found my 4.2GHZ i7-4770K to actually be slightly underpowered when paired with my GTX 780 playing arma 3 and dayz for example...but overall it's the other way around my CPU seem to have plenty more to offer and 99% of the time is the strongest part in games.

Not saying the i5-4440 and GTX 980 is not a good match for gaming, cause it is...that's not the point.

[Aniallation]

Want to bet? http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/H81GAMER/#H81-specs

 

That board is soooo retarded

[Dabombinable]

 

That board is soooo retarded

It can still overclock

[Aniallation]

It can still overclock

Where does it say that?

[HmmR]

you're funny!

The i5-4440, like any other CPU, can bottleneck ANY GPU. It absolutely can and will bottleneck the GPU given the right conditions.

If an overclocked i7-4790K can bottleneck a GTX760 or R9 270 in existing strategy games, MMOs, and compute intensive multiplayer games, then there's no reason to assume that a weaker CPU could never bottleneck an even more powerful GPU.

opps sorry i dint explain my sentence i ment when overclocked it can run all gpu s just fine 

[i_build_nanosuits]

It can still overclock

...but up to only 1.2v on the Vcore...max...most ''h'' series motherboard are capped at 1.2v for safety reasons (weak power delivery system on those boards)

 

opps sorry i dint explain my sentence i ment when overclocked it can run all gpu s just fine

You can't overclock the i5-4440...well technicaly you can...but like 200 to 300mhz tops (if you're very good at it and own a very nice Z series board packed with overclocking features!)

[Dabombinable]

Where does it say that?

Some where over the rainbow........http://www.asus.com/sg/News/0yYwfwL2ZA9CFAMK

[HmmR]

 

That board is soooo retarded

its good motherboard nothing wrong with it (bad price only)

[SteveGrabowski]

The i5-4440 is a great CPU, and probably the only CPU that would make any sense to upgrade to is the i7-4790k since it comes pretty much overclocked already at 4.0GHz base clock, 4.2GHz all cores turbo, and 4.4 GHz single and dual core turbo while also offering hyperthreading. You might not be able to get full speed on it though if you have a 1.2V limit on your H81 board though, as I have heard of 4790ks having stock voltages in the 1.275V range. I guess you could also upgrade to a hyperthreaded locked i7 or Xeon E3-12xxv3 (with xx greater than or equal to 30). But I don't think either would be enough of a performance bump to justify paying $250-$310 when the i5-4440 is already such a killer gaming CPU.

 

But with a CPU as good as an i5-4440 already in hand I'd wait for a revolutionary new chip to come out, something like Sandy Bridge was, and then do a full platform upgrade then.