I want to upgrade. FX8350 or I5 4690K or I7 4790K

[79wjd]

I dont consider 700 dollars to be super expensive 

Well, yes and no. X99 offers very little in terms of gaming, and only really makes sense for people who render (or game while doing other heavy tasks) where time is a factor. Otherwise Z97 usually makes more sense as by the time the extra cores become beneficial the consumer platform of CPUs will be better than the current enthusiast platform. 

[patrickjp93]

Until we see some DirectX 12 benches on Windows 10 for new games, no one here can say for sure. Finally AMD's quad-core APUs can match a Haswell I3 in gaming when they share similar clock rates. As per how it will scale with the FX 8/9 series, no one here knows yet, but if we assume perfectly, then the 8320 should match the I5 4690k. The 9590 might be decent competition for the 4790k.

[PlayModeOn]

Why would you ever consider an ancient FX-8350?

[Majestic]

Well, yes and no. X99 offers very little in terms of gaming, 

55% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

54% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

44% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

44% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

I'm sorry, what? I know they're expensive but don't pretend they aren't vastly superior....

[zappian]

-snipers-

 

 4790k?

 

You dont need to go to x99 per say.

 

For gaming I mean ofc.

 

[JustCallMeVlad]

55% Higher compared to a 4670K

54% Higher compared to a 4670K

44% Higher compared to a 4670K

44% Higher compared to a 4670K

I'm sorry, what? I know they're expensive but don't pretend they aren't vastly superior....

Pretty much this

[Acerpwns]

Pretty much this

but why would i pay $1k on ONLY the CPU when i can build an entire system with that? D: (balanced gaming system for that matter) ofc X99 is vastly superior but imo it doesnt justify that hefty price premium.

 

 

 

 

but hey if i was rich

[Majestic]

but why would i pay $1k on ONLY the CPU when i can build an entire system with that? D: (balanced gaming system for that matter) ofc X99 is vastly superior but imo it doesnt justify that hefty price premium.

 

but hey if i was rich

 

Never said it was cheap. Just that there is something behind that price aswell.

[Faa]

 

55% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

 

54% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

 

44% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

 

44% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

I'm sorry, what? I know they're expensive but don't pretend they aren't vastly superior....

It's GameGPU, their results are always contradicting the rest. I mean if you check their Battlefield 4 benchmarks the 8350 is better than the 4670K, checking the hardline benchmarks the 4670K is better than the 9590. Even in singlethreaded games the 3960x does better than the 4770K. 

[MrMineHeads]

Unless you are going to hardcore edit or something that will need those extra 4 threads, just get the i5 4690K. i7 is the same just with hyper threading. Save a couple of bucks by getting the i5.

[Majestic]

It's GameGPU, their results are always contradicting the rest. I mean if you check their Battlefield 4 benchmarks the 8350 is better than the 4670K, checking the hardline benchmarks the 4670K is better than the 9590. Even in singlethreaded games the 3960x does better than the 4770K. 

 

 

They're doing 720p benchmarks now? D:

[Justin Meyer]

TBH you dont NEED the i7 but if you want a future proof cpu than id go with the i7 but if you just want something that runs your pc for a good long time than the i5 should be fine. If you are looking for a cpu that will last a LONG time and wont need to upgrade for a while than go with the i7 but if you just want something thats pretty good too just doesnt last as long than go with the i5

[JustCallMeVlad]

but why would i pay $1k on ONLY the CPU when i can build an entire system with that? D: (balanced gaming system for that matter) ofc X99 is vastly superior but imo it doesnt justify that hefty price premium.

but hey if i was rich

X99 is intels server chipset. Ofcourse it's going to be expensive

[BlameCo]

i would say 4790k

[Acerpwns]

X99 is intels server chipset. Ofcourse it's going to be expensive

 

 

Never said it was cheap. Just that there is something behind that price aswell.

 

 

thats my point. i never said it was going to be cheap. my point is that yes it is vastly superior, but it just doesnt justify the price premium imo. what should be done is build a Z97 and X99 rig, becnhmark them,  and do a price/FPS ratio

[JustCallMeVlad]

thats my point. i never said it was going to be cheap. my point is that yes it is vastly superior, but it just doesnt justify the price premium imo. what should be done is build a Z97 and X99 rig, becnhmark them, and do a price/FPS ratio

In sli and 3 way the X99 will pull away easily from Z97

[Faa]

In sli and 3 way the X99 will pull away easily from Z97

Proof? Don't come up with gamegpu benchmarks who never showed 4670K>X79/X99 yet.

[Dive5885]

X99 is intels server chipset. Ofcourse it's going to be expensive

I think my next major upgrade is going to be X99.

 

PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mj2QK8

 

Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/mj2QK8/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-5820K 3.3GHz 6-Core Processor  ($389.99 @ Newegg)

 

Motherboard: MSI X99S SLI Plus ATX LGA2011-3 Motherboard  ($202.98 @ Newegg)

 

Memory: A-Data XPG Z1 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($109.99 @ Amazon)

 

Total: $632.96

 

Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available

 

Generated by PCPartPicker 2015-02-15 17:47 EST-0500

 

For $632 for a system like that isn't bad.

[Najuno]

thats my point. i never said it was going to be cheap. my point is that yes it is vastly superior, but it just doesnt justify the price premium imo. what should be done is build a Z97 and X99 rig, becnhmark them,  and do a price/FPS ratio

That price to performance stuff all the time... honestly I´ve got an i7 5930K laying around in a drawer here waiting to be the new CPU of my HTPC. And I run a 5960X because my hobby is GPU benchmarking, and I guarantee everybody one thing. I wipe the floor with any CPU other than X99 in 3D Mark Phyics scores.

Don´t get me wrong a Z97 with an i7 4790K is a good strong solution, but for me with 3 GPUs and extreme benchmarking it´s not good enough.

And for everyone that thinks a PLX 3way on Z97 will give you enough juice to play with the big boys... sorry won´t happen.

 

http://www.3dmark.com/hall-of-fame-2/fire+strike+3dmark+score+ultra+preset/version+1.1/3+gpu

 

Of course the situation is different when you are on a budget. And not everybody does have OCing as hobby. If I wasn´t an enthusiast I´d probably go for Z97 as well.

 

All I want to point out it is not always black or white why people buy hardware the way they do.

[CalumGiff]

the 4690k you will find next to no difference between that an the i7 in gaming. So unless you wanna get into video editing or other shit that uses the hyperthreading made available by the i7 then the i5 is the way to go.

[dandrix]

Did you hit your head?

Dp you even have one ?

[Guest]

Dp you even have one ?

Can't say I have ever done double penetration no.

[ComradeHX]

This post is inaccurate in various instances. The highest grade AMD chip to date is the FX9590, NOT the FX8350. The 9590 not only outperforms the 4690K without overclocking, but can overclock higher in most cases. The power savings are not as insane as the charts my suggest and aren't going to impact the power bill of someone who does gaming. Even if they have their system running 24/7 (which most gamers don't do) a large portion of the time it will be inactive (sleep or hibernation) which consumes almost no power regardless of which platform you are running. Intel has stronger single thread performance than AMD, that's a fact. But for your money, AMD is a better choice. Why do I say that? Because as of today (Feb. 13, 2015) you can get an AMD FX9590, the REAL MOST POWERFUL red side processor, for the exact same price as an Intel i5 4690k on newegg (retail $239.99). An FX8350, is $179.99, and you'll get lesser performance out of it. Wow! It's $60 less and it's not as strong a processor!? Who would have thought?!

This not about 10,000 charts online comparing processors that are not of the same caliber OR PRICE. 8350's can be gotten for as low as $140, and will outperform any Intel processor at that price, unless you bum a used i5 off eBay, good luck. Linus did this wonderful video on price to performance regarding graphics cards. The same can apply to processors at a certain point when it comes to comparison between different brands. And I guess I should bring up a football analogy (on any given sunday, ANY team can beat ANY OTHER TEAM). To list another part of these pro benchmarks that nobody ever addresses: it's called the silicone lottery. Links addressed that too when he did his video on the Pentium G3258. Some processors overclock better than others. And guess what else? Some processors are just better than others at stock speeds too! My personal G3258 I was able to overclock to 4.8GHz. And my 6350 is clocked at 4.6GHz. Done games I play only utilize 1 or 2 cores, so obviously the Pentium much have beaten the 6350 since Intel's single core performance is better than AMD's! WRONG! That's not how it turns out at all. My 6350 averages 15-20 fps higher on average on single or dual-threaded games.

I don't have the technical expertise to explain why, but those are my results. "But the Pentium is half the cost of a 6350!" Right you are! (Kind of) And the 8350 is roughly the same difference in price less than a 4690k. And gets roughly that same difference in performance less in games (15-20fps difference).

The difference in price roughly equates to the difference in performance!?

Who

Would

Have

Thought.

You are conveniently ignoring the higher energy cost and requirement for aftermarket cooler of fx8350/9590.

Show proper evidence that 9590 performs better than i5 or gtfo.

[rtpb5642]

i7

[79wjd]

 

55% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

44% Higher compared to a 4670K

 

I'm sorry, what? I know they're expensive but don't pretend they aren't vastly superior....

How about we look at the 99.999% of games where a 4670k will match the performance of a 5960x.