Star Wars: The Force Awakens Trailer (Not Tech)

[deathjester]

It is impossible to make a Star Wars trailer look bad. The EA Battlefront trailer looks like they are making the greatest game of all time. We will see about that. The source material is pretty hard to F up in a short.  Looks like this isn't the Thrawn trilogy though (which was fantastic). Oh well. Least it can't be worse than this...

 

 

Only reason I am optimistic about the movies is this guy (Lawrence Kasdan) is screenwriting them.

 

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001410/

 

Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) and Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) Silverado (1985). Kasdan is a very talented writer. 

 

J.J. is a mediocre writer/plot guy imo, so the less he is involved with the plot the better. He is a very talented "visual guy". He also uses REAL SETS which matter quite a bit. Visually the Star Trek reboot was stunning (minus migraine inducing lens flare). If JJ can just let a talented writer do his thing and not take over the plot, and or include dumb characters and lines and stupid crap inserted into the plot to market the crap out of the movies to little kids? The movies have a chance to be good.

[techswede]

It is impossible to make a Star Wars trailer look bad. The EA Battlefront trailer looks like they are making the greatest game of all time. We will see about that. The source material is pretty hard to F up in a short.  Looks like this isn't the Thrawn trilogy though (which was fantastic). Oh well. Least it can't be worse than this...

 

 

 

Only reason I am optimistic about the movies is this guy (Lawrence Kasdan) is screenwriting them.

 

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001410/

 

Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980), Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983) and Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) Silverado (1985). Kasdan is a very talented writer. 

 

J.J. is a mediocre writer/plot guy imo, so the less he is involved with the plot the better. He is a very talented "visual guy". He also uses REAL SETS which matter quite a bit. Visually the Star Trek reboot was stunning (minus migraine inducing lens flare). If JJ can just let a talented writer do his thing and not take over the plot, and or include dumb characters and lines and stupid crap inserted into the plot to market the crap out of the movies to little kids? The movies have a chance to be good.

When i heard that kasdan was involved in a... *Cough*ign*Cough*... Video. All my fears about JJ Lensflare ruining the movie melted away slightly^^ 

[deathjester]

When i heard that kasdan was involved in a... *Cough*ign*Cough*... Video. All my fears about JJ Lensflare ruining the movie melted away slightly^^ 

 

Yeah I love his writing. Characters are always well defined, the plot is usually smart and LOGICAL (which nothing in the prequels was). I loved Silverado. His kind of writing where he is giving free reign is Empires Strikes Back. ROTJ? The Ewoks were originally supposed to be Wookies and that was supposed ot have been on Kashyyyk not Endor, Of course Lucas wanted to sell toys and market to little kids. So we got Ewoks. ROTJ was not a bad movie, but it was not as good as Empire imo.

 

Prequels? Lucas went full blown marketing to kids at the cost of plot. Kasdan? I know he can write a good script. Whether the shareholders/Disney and JJ screw it up? We will see. IMO you will sell more toys in the long run and cash in if the movies are good. The latest Batman trilogy should prove that. 

[techswede]

Yeah I love his writing. Characters are always well defined, the plot is usually smart and LOGICAL (which nothing in the prequels was). I loved Silverado. His kind of writing where he is giving free reign is Empires Strikes Back. ROTJ? The Ewoks were originally supposed to be Wookies and that was supposed ot have been on Kashyyyk not Endor, Of course Lucas wanted to sell toys and market to little kids. So we got Ewoks. ROTJ was not a bad movie, but it was not as good as Empire imo.

 

Prequels? Lucas went full blown marketing to kids at the cost of plot. Kasdan? I know he can write a good script. Whether the shareholders/Disney and JJ screw it up? We will see. IMO you will sell more toys in the long run and cash in if the movies are good. The latest Batman trilogy should prove that. 

Speaking of directors

It would've been fun to see tarantino make a star wars movie^^ 

Not a main one. But maybe the Boba Fett spin off  :wub:

[WereCat]

Jar Jar should learn to use the force and become sith.

Of course.. I am dead serious about this!

[Victorious Secret]

Its JJ. At the very least it'll have pretty special effects and I'll happily turn my brain off and watch 3 hours of sci-fi glory. 

[techswede]

Its JJ. At the very least it'll have pretty special effects and I'll happily turn my brain off and watch 3 hours of sci-fi glory. 

Found this

[Guest Kloaked]

That... Didn't look very good.

 

It's just a teaser, not the whole movie.

 

John Boyega as the main character? I honest to God thought it was a parody trailer when I first saw him pop up from the bottom of the screen and that silly sound played to try to scare you.

I haven't watched any of the movies he has been in (although Attack The Block seems decent so I'll check that out) but my first impressions so far is bad. The scene just seemed really goofy.

 

Again, it's a teaser.

 

What the hell is up with that football robot? Why!? Cool effect but it reminds me of episode 1-3 where they shoved a bunch of useless stuff into the movie to try to sell more toys.

 

This really seems like an unnecessary concern. You're forming this as if you're going to be watching the droid for the whole movie and nothing else.

 

Those X-wings flying above the water looked so cool. Really really cool effect.

 

Agreed.  I came.

 

That lightsaber is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The only thing it will do is increase the risk of harming yourself by 10,000%. I know it's a fantasy but even fantasy settings need clearly defined rules, and this design choice breaks them.

 

At first I thought it was kinda dumb too, because it would make fighting with it very awkward since you can potentially burn off your own hand or cut yourself somewhere else. However, I think this sith will have a particular fighting style to suit the blade's construction.

 

I don't recall it being "a dark side and a light". Maybe I misinterpreted the first movies but I always thought it was "the dark side is causing the balance of the force to tip. Get rid of the dark side and there will be balance again". If there is a light and a dark side, and you get rid of the dark side then there will still be unbalance, just in the opposite direction. I always looked at it as balance vs chaos, rather than light vs dark. Then again, it was a very long time since I last watched the movies so maybe I am remembering it wrong and there actually was light vs dark.

 

I used to give thought to that whole thing too, but it ruined the big picture because you're thinking more about the lore's inconsistencies than the cool story it makes.

 

No idea who any of these people are. I saw the Millennium Falcon which is cool I guess. It did look a bit different so maybe it wasn't the real Falcon.

 

It looked different because things change over time.

 

I will go and see it, and I think it will be a decent movie (can't be worse than episode 1 and 2, right?) but I am certainly not creaming my pants. Judging by the trailer (which is really unfair I know) it seems like maybe a 6/10 movie.

 

Again, I don't think you can judge this whole movie based on a one minute (give or take) teaser trailer. There's no plot given, there's no main characters named or shown (for what we know), etc.

 

I'll give them the benefit of a doubt on that. Maybe it's made out of Cortosis or Mandalorian iron? Both of them can withstand a lightsaber hit.

 

You're entitled to your opinions, so I'm not saying you're wrong at all. Just opening up a discussion.

[dalekphalm]

And someone holding a lightsabre that's hot enough to melt a door two inches from his own face is realistic?

To be fair, the lore states that the lightsaber blade is so efficient that there is no thermal energy loss (or so little that it's not noticeable by a human).

 

I'd also like to see at least ONE vibroblade!

And if you do not get what im referencing PLAY KOTOR!!!!! The first one. Because the second one is meh

Hell yes, cortosis weave! Though I highly doubt we'll see any (or many) of those in the movies. The fact that everyone and their mother could get Cortosis Weave vibroswords in KOTOR kind of made fighting non-jedi a little ridiculous. Cortosis is supposed to be incredibly rare after all. That'd be like finding Uranium at every local convenience store.

 

Either way, I fucking love KOTOR! KOTOR 2 was great too, the game mechanics were improved and smoothed out a lot. The story was pretty decent, but as we all know, the publishers pushed them to release a literally unfinished game, so they rushed the ending like mad. There is a mod that unlocks some of the unfinished levels, and apparently really fleshes out the game.

 

A guard like that wont help much, if you look one of the likely points of contact with the guard is metal, meaning another lightsaber would likely cut right through at that weak point.

To be fair, it could be made out of Cortosis or Mandalorian Iron (The latter isn't technically lightsaber proof, just incredibly lightsaber resistant).

 

The rest might be a cortosis-weave from a vibroblade 

Yep All the EU guys are coming out in force it seems

 

That... Didn't look very good.

 

 

John Boyega as the main character? I honest to God thought it was a parody trailer when I first saw him pop up from the bottom of the screen and that silly sound played to try to scare you.

I haven't watched any of the movies he has been in (although Attack The Block seems decent so I'll check that out) but my first impressions so far is bad. The scene just seemed really goofy.

 

What the hell is up with that football robot? Why!? Cool effect but it reminds me of episode 1-3 where they shoved a bunch of useless stuff into the movie to try to sell more toys.

 

Those X-wings flying above the water looked so cool. Really really cool effect.

 

That lightsaber is the stupidest thing I have ever seen. The only thing it will do is increase the risk of harming yourself by 10,000%. I know it's a fantasy but even fantasy settings need clearly defined rules, and this design choice breaks them.

 

I don't recall it being "a dark side and a light". Maybe I misinterpreted the first movies but I always thought it was "the dark side is causing the balance of the force to tip. Get rid of the dark side and there will be balance again". If there is a light and a dark side, and you get rid of the dark side then there will still be unbalance, just in the opposite direction. I always looked at it as balance vs chaos, rather than light vs dark. Then again, it was a very long time since I last watched the movies so maybe I am remembering it wrong and there actually was light vs dark.

 

No idea who any of these people are. I saw the Millennium Falcon which is cool I guess. It did look a bit different so maybe it wasn't the real Falcon.

 

 

I will go and see it, and I think it will be a decent movie (can't be worse than episode 1 and 2, right?) but I am certainly not creaming my pants. Judging by the trailer (which is really unfair I know) it seems like maybe a 6/10 movie.

 

 

 

I'll give them the benefit of a doubt on that. Maybe it's made out of Cortosis or Mandalorian iron? Both of them can withstand a lightsaber hit.

Well to be fair, it's been 30 in-universe years (more or less) since we've last seen the Falcon, and Han Solo was always a tinkerer. Odds are it IS the Falcon, just with 30 years of mods/upgrades/tweaks. The visual effects in the trailer are stunning. Those X-Wings, fuuuuuck yea!

 

and a world where swords > guns

it's the falcon, But 30 years later so more mods by Han solo.

Well to be fair only the Jedi are superior with "swords", given their ability to deflect or avoid blaster shots. Though it would be interesting to see how well a Jedi would do against projectile weapons, especially high fire rate ones like a Vulcan Minigun or an FN P-90.

[techswede]

To be fair, the lore states that the lightsaber blade is so efficient that there is no thermal energy loss (or so little that it's not noticeable by a human).

 

Hell yes, cortosis weave! Though I highly doubt we'll see any (or many) of those in the movies. The fact that everyone and their mother could get Cortosis Weave vibroswords in KOTOR kind of made fighting non-jedi a little ridiculous. Cortosis is supposed to be incredibly rare after all. That'd be like finding Uranium at every local convenience store.

 

Either way, I fucking love KOTOR! KOTOR 2 was great too, the game mechanics were improved and smoothed out a lot. The story was pretty decent, but as we all know, the publishers pushed them to release a literally unfinished game, so they rushed the ending like mad. There is a mod that unlocks some of the unfinished levels, and apparently really fleshes out the game.

 

To be fair, it could be made out of Cortosis or Mandalorian Iron (The latter isn't technically lightsaber proof, just incredibly lightsaber resistant).

 

Yep All the EU guys are coming out in force it seems

 

Well to be fair, it's been 30 in-universe years (more or less) since we've last seen the Falcon, and Han Solo was always a tinkerer. Odds are it IS the Falcon, just with 30 years of mods/upgrades/tweaks. The visual effects in the trailer are stunning. Those X-Wings, fuuuuuck yea!

 

Well to be fair only the Jedi are superior with "swords", given their ability to deflect or avoid blaster shots. Though it would be interesting to see how well a Jedi would do against projectile weapons, especially high fire rate ones like a Vulcan Minigun or an FN P-90.

qui gon jinn's sword had a pretty wide heat spread when he stabbed that door though.

 

Yeah.. That was a bit of a problem. (Smuggling of cortosis blades was supposed to be a problem But when everyone and their mothers are wielding them then it gets a bit ridiculous)

I like KOTOR 1 more just because it was my first experience with such an extreme plot twist . (And i am a huge fan of the character)

[dalekphalm]

qui gon jinn's sword had a pretty wide heat spread when he stabbed that door though.

 

Yeah.. That was a bit of a problem. (Smuggling of cortosis blades was supposed to be a problem But when everyone and their mothers are wielding them then it gets a bit ridiculous)

I like KOTOR 1 more just because it was my first experience with such an extreme plot twist . (And i am a huge fan of the character)

Yes but Qui-Gon's blade was making direct contact with the blast-door. The heat energy was radiating outward from the middle bit making direct contact. In essence, the superhot metal in the middle was melting the surrounding metal, not the "heat" from the lightsaber (not directly anyway).

 

The point being that the blade is extremely efficient when not in direct contact. Whether that's actually practical on a physics level? Likely not, but Star Wars has never been particularly spot on with science. Plus they have super advanced technology, so their understanding of physics might make our best scientists look like toddlers

[Syntaxvgm]

Eh.

Quote me after it comes out-

That sith in the mask will be luke. I guarantee it.

Not even  a star wars fan, but I feel like I can see this coming.  

[techswede]

Yes but Qui-Gon's blade was making direct contact with the blast-door. The heat energy was radiating outward from the middle bit making direct contact. In essence, the superhot metal in the middle was melting the surrounding metal, not the "heat" from the lightsaber (not directly anyway).

 

The point being that the blade is extremely efficient when not in direct contact. Whether that's actually practical on a physics level? Likely not, but Star Wars has never been particularly spot on with science. Plus they have super advanced technology, so their understanding of physics might make our best scientists look like toddlers

I just realized that we are discussing different alloys and the heat output of lightsabres. I am expecting a glowing yellow light and a level up sound with this level of nerdyness

[LAwLz]

Again, it's a teaser.

I know, but the first impression is kind of important. That scene didn't get me pumped for some cool action movie. It looked like something fans would make.

 

This really seems like an unnecessary concern. You're forming this as if you're going to be watching the droid for the whole movie and nothing else.

I am just worried they will fill do the same mistake as with the prequels. Fill all the scenes with stupid and pointless stuff just to sell more merchandise. I am not worried that I will see that droid throughout the entire movie. I am worried I will see a bunch of droids (for example like the football one) in the background in every damn scene. Or even worse, they will be really in-your-face and distracting.

 

At first I thought it was kinda dumb too, because it would make fighting with it very awkward since you can potentially burn off your own hand or cut yourself somewhere else. However, I think this sith will have a particular fighting style to suit the blade's construction.

Even with a special fighting style it is stupid. It looks cool but it's one step too far into the "now that's just ridiculous" territory for me.

 

Yeah it's just my opinion. Maybe I am just being negative because of the prequels. I will still go and see it opening day/week though, even if everything that comes out about it sucks.

[DuckDodgers]

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[techswede]

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I am pretty sure that whatever is on the other side of that lake.. It's going to be epic

[Aphexx]

lake or an ocean for a fishy people?

[.spider.]

Watched it 4 times now and its still great.

[KungPaoChino]

December 2015 X_X Can't wait

[zacRupnow]

Trailer looks alright but Disney ruins everything.

[Maslofski]

so that new lightsaber seems like the most stupid thing ever, those 2 small lights either hurt the user, or ive they tried to use it as a way for when the sword slides down to stop it, it wouldnt even work either because it just cuts trough the grip...

 

[Syntaxvgm]

so that new lightsaber seems like the most stupid thing ever, those 2 small lights either hurt the user, or ive they tried to use it as a way for when the sword slides down to stop it, it wouldnt even work either because it just cuts trough the grip...

 

yea exactly. 

[Aphexx]

there can be inventive ways to use Quilons than just keeping your fingers safe

 

[Antistatic12]

that trailer wasn't as informative as I wanted, but it was pretty good.

[AlexStriz]

Damn, I can't wait for this.

2015 is going to be a good year for movies, I can feel it. This and Jurassic World look like they're going to be epic movies.

Seriously, look at this shit

edit: Also, Disney, if you screw up Star Wars I swear I will hate you more than I do Jar Jar Binks, and I will personally make it my life's goal to come to your house and beat you into a pulp until your face looks like Jabba the Hutt.