Intel Xeon

[I/O]

Can I get great performance and longevity out of a Xeon 1150 chip vs an 4690k ?

[AlwaysFSX]

It's essentially the same thing without the integrated GPU.

[Aniallation]

Can I get great performance and longevity out of a Xeon 1150 chip vs an 4690k ?

Xeon E3 1230 V3 = i7 4790

 

Would you rather have an unlocked CPU, or one with HT?

 

Gaming -> i5

Content creation (+ gaming) -> Xeon

[Aniallation]

It's essentially the same thing without the integrated GPU.

Xeon is a locked i7 without the iGPU.

[Darkman]

Xeon E3 1230 V3 = i7 4790

 

Would you rather have an unlocked CPU, or one with HT?

^ This. I have the E3-1230 v3 myself.

[WereCat]

Xeons are meant for workstations/servers so they are made to last long (cherrypicked). But you cant OC them (I think you can trough BCLK but that is not recommended). Personaly I think that Xeon E3 1231 V3 which cost as much as i5 4690k is more worth it as it is basicaly i7 without iGPU. Though you cant OC. But hyperthreading is better than few more MHz in my opinion.

[WinNut]

The Xeon in question is simply a locked-multiplier i7 lacking an iGPU.

[I/O]

Xeon E3 1230 V3 = i7 4790

 

Would you rather have an unlocked CPU, or one with HT?

 

Gaming -> i5

Content creation (+ gaming) -> Xeon

I was considering this chip and this mobo for server class stability http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132126&cm_re=Asus_WS-_-13-132-126-_-Product

[Geekazoid]

Would you rather have an unlocked CPU, or one with HT?

[I/O]

Xeons are meant for workstations/servers so they are made to last long (cherrypicked). But you cant OC them (I think you can trough BCLK but that is not recommended). Personaly I think that Xeon E3 1231 V3 which cost as much as i5 4690k is more worth it as it is basicaly i7 without iGPU. Though you cant OC. But hyperthreading is better than few more MHz in my opinion.

Ya getting features you can use like HT and server class stability, quality and longevity seem to be better as current higher end 1150 chips are going to be relevant for the next 5 years i would say. What's the 4690k Xeon equivalent ?

[Sousuke]

Basicly a Xeon is an i7 without an internal GPU with Multi Physical CPU Support. So the only question you should ask yourself is that are you going to buy a Server/Workstation motherboard with more than one CPU Sockets?

 

So if your planning on getting 2 Physical CPUs or having ECC Memory then you have to go Xeon.

[I/O]

The Xeon in question is simply a locked-multiplier i7 lacking an iGPU.

Sounds like a juicy deal to me.

[Sousuke]

Sounds like a juicy deal to me.

Not really as most Xeons are more expensive than the i7 counterparts as Xeons are Workstation Class components.

[I/O]

Basicly a Xeon is an i7 without an internal GPU with Multi Physical CPU Support. So the only question you should ask yourself is that are you going to buy a Server/Workstation motherboard with more than one CPU Sockets?

 

So if your planning on getting 2 Physical CPUs then you have to go Xeon.

Hypothetically do a couple server CPUs on an SR2 class mobo make smoother gameplay for the PC gamer ?

[I/O]

Not really as most Xeons are more expensive than the i7 counterparts as Xeons are Workstation Class components.

Thinking this

 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907

and this

 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132126&cm_re=Asus_WS-_-13-132-126-_-Product

[Sousuke]

Hypothetically do a couple server CPUs on an SR2 class mobo make smoother gameplay for the PC gamer ?

 

No, Most Games don't take advantage of more than 2-4 Cores, which is why  going over a i5 on a rig is usually overkill. Where more than 4 cores and 1 CPU will help out in the most is Video Editing, 3D Rendering ect.

[Sousuke]

Thinking this

 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907

and this

 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132126&cm_re=Asus_WS-_-13-132-126-_-Product

 

The thing is that I look at the benchmark scores (Sure these are synthetic however these are still quite valid):

 

https://cpubenchmark.net/cpu_lookup.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1220+v3+%40+3.10GHz&id=2022

 

So for example a AMD FX-8370 Eight-Core has 2000 more PassMark Points however is quite a bit cheaper. Take a look at that list. Xeons are never a good alternative for value as Intel will always put a premium on them.

[airdeano]

Hypothetically do a couple server CPUs on an SR2 class mobo make smoother gameplay for the PC gamer ?

 

the SR2 class is LGA2011/E5 XEON, not the E3 class (1150/1155)

 

gaming on XEON platform is not the best platform to use, for cost, needs

and expectations. is doable, but most do suffer performance differences

between the core series vs the XEON series.

 

to to those that say the XEON do not have an iGPU, are incorrect as Intel do

offer iGPU onboard E3 XEON class CPU but at core series pricing.

 

E3-1275v3 does have the HD4600 iGPU

[AlwaysFSX]

Xeon is a locked i7 without the iGPU.

I was talking about it being a consumer SKU, just specifically a 4690k.

[I/O]

the SR2 class is LGA2011/E5 XEON, not the E3 class (1150/1155)

 

gaming on XEON platform is not the best platform to use, for cost, needs

and expectations. is doable, but most do suffer performance differences

between the core series vs the XEON series.

 

to to those that say the XEON do not have an iGPU, are incorrect as Intel do

offer iGPU onboard E3 XEON class CPU but at core series pricing.

 

E3-1275v3 does have the HD4600 iGPU

I rather have the most stable and reliable platform that money can by for the average consumer which is what attracts me to Xeon and this http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132126&cm_re=Asus_WS-_-13-132-126-_-Product also i am not interested in a few more FPS that I can;t use anyway at the cost of premium quality, stability and support that comes with work station grade parts. 

[dizmo]

Ya getting features you can use like HT and server class stability, quality and longevity seem to be better as current higher end 1150 chips are going to be relevant for the next 5 years i would say. What's the 4690k Xeon equivalent ?

There's a 4 core, no hyper threading version of the Xeon. I think it's the E3-1225.

The equivalent of the 4690k directly, if you're thinking mhz, is the E3-1275v3. Which are cheaper, but only a bit, compared to the equivalent i7 processor.

Going with the E3-1220 you were linking will result in a loss of 400mhz. If you don't care as much about the fps and such, then it's a good choice.

This kind of processor is what I'm sticking in a friends build who only uses his computer for content creation and consumption, no gaming.

 

Basicly a Xeon is an i7 without an internal GPU with Multi Physical CPU Support. So the only question you should ask yourself is that are you going to buy a Server/Workstation motherboard with more than one CPU Sockets?

 

So if your planning on getting 2 Physical CPUs or having ECC Memory then you have to go Xeon.

You can use the CPU on regular motherboards, there's no need for a server grade board. It also supports non ECC memory.

 

Not really as most Xeons are more expensive than the i7 counterparts as Xeons are Workstation Class components.

Actually no. You're mistaken there.

 

Hypothetically do a couple server CPUs on an SR2 class mobo make smoother gameplay for the PC gamer ?

Dear god, no. Don't even try and put those together. It's a complete waste of money.

[I/O]

There's a 4 core, no hyper threading version of the Xeon. I think it's the E3-1225.

The equivalent of the 4690k directly, if you're thinking mhz, is the E3-1275v3. Which are cheaper, but only a bit, compared to the equivalent i7 processor.

Going with the E3-1220 you were linking will result in a loss of 400mhz. If you don't care as much about the fps and such, then it's a good choice.

This kind of processor is what I'm sticking in a friends build who only uses his computer for content creation and consumption, no gaming.

From what I am gathering a good Xeon is a good option for Stability, Quality and all around performance. For strictly gaming the i7 4790K OCed to the max will get you the best benchmarking numbers but in practice for a guy that run's and like 60hz monitors with Vsync the Xeon is a better choice if you are after all around stability, flexibility, performance and longevity. 

[dizmo]

From what I am gathering a good Xeon is a good option for Stability, Quality and all around performance. For strictly gaming the i7 4790K OCed to the max will get you the best benchmarking numbers but in practice for a guy that run's and like 60hz monitors with Vsync the Xeon is a better choice if you are after all around stability, flexibility, performance and longevity. 

Basically yes.

There are of course a wide variety of different Xeons, a lot more than there are different i7's.

I'd probably aim for the 1230v3. It's a decent in between in terms of speed and cost.

[Aniallation]

I was considering this chip and this mobo for server class stability http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116907 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132126&cm_re=Asus_WS-_-13-132-126-_-Product

Don't get that Xeon, get the E3-1230 V3. Also if you don't need SLI, get a B85 board.

[Syntaxvgm]

Just like to add to this discussion-

Keep in mind that you can somewhat overclock xeons actually. Usually to their turbo speed or slightly higher. For example, if you have a xeon at 3.2GHz or something, and its turbo is 4.0GHz, that means you can raise its multiplier to at least 40, and can get it to run at 4GHz on all cores at the same time. They are really well binned and should have 0 problem with that. I wouldn't touch the base clock, as it could undermine the stability factor unless you are just gaming or something.