Intel Xeon

[I/O]

SSD's will only make the difference when the CPU needs data from it or write to it. When opening a new tab in chrome, it doesn't use the SSD at all so the performance comes down to the CPU. When you're not gaming/rendering, most of the time you're only using one core and a higher clock speed will mean better singlethreaded performance which would make your OS feel more responsive.

My phone can run many many tabs without slowing down for Christ sake LOL. More Ram and an SSD will make Windows much much more snappy than sticking with less ram a HDD and a top end CPU which mind you will never get used .

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My phone can run many many tabs without slowing down for Christ sake LOL. More Ram and an SSD will make Windows much much more snappy than sticking with less ram a HDD and a top end CPU which mind you will never get used .

Was just an example. More singlethreaded performance makes the os more responsive imo.

[GloriousPain]

Can I get great performance and longevity out of a Xeon 1150 chip vs an 4690k ?

Yeah infact the Xeon 1220 V3 is a 4670 with lower clockspeed and no igpu,

1225 v3 is 4670 with lower clock

1230v3 is 4770 with lower clock

1231v3 is 4790 with lower clock

ect.

[I/O]

Yeah infact the Xeon 1220 V3 is a 4670 with lower clockspeed and no igpu,

1225 v3 is 4670 with lower clock

1230v3 is 4770 with lower clock

1231v3 is 4790 with lower clock

ect.

Xeon 1230 v3 seems like it's the best deal as it has HT and is high binned "cherry picked" silicon and is theoretically a Haswell i7 = good to good for the next 5 years.

[GloriousPain]

Xeon 1230 v3 seems like it's the best deal as it has HT and is high binned "cherry picked" silicon and is theoretically a Haswell i7 = good to good for the next 5 years.

I highly suggest the 1231V3 like seriously bro there's a reason until devils canyon came out Haswell had the nickname "Gaswell" shit gets HOT and doesn't cool easy cause intel cheaped out on the thermal interface material on the inside of the cpu... but yes the 1230's not bad just I suggest the 1231 much more due to the fact it's just a slightly newer version designed for running cooler which extends the life of it a bit 

[I/O]

I highly suggest the 1231V3 like seriously bro there's a reason until devils canyon came out Haswell had the nickname "Gaswell" shit gets HOT and doesn't cool easy cause intel cheaped out on the thermal interface material on the inside of the cpu... but yes the 1230's not bad just I suggest the 1231 much more due to the fact it's just a slightly newer version designed for running cooler which extends the life of it a bit 

An 80watt Intel part does not put out much heat at all stock cooler is fine even LOL. Seems all I am getting for $20 more bucks is a crappy 100Mhz core clock rate increase if i go with the 1231.

[GloriousPain]

An 80watt Intel part does not put out much heat at all stock cooler is fine even LOL. Seems all I am getting for $20 more bucks is a crappy 100Mhz core clock rate increase if i go with the 1231.

it's the same difference between 4770k and 4790k ... One is more durable, cooler,  ect... but yeah you CAN go with 1230 it's just in comparison I think 1231 would do you much better since you're  after a long lasting CPU  one that is known to have far less issues will have far less issues especially over the course of years.  Both are Haswell, Clock difference IS only 100mhz, Stock coolers are identical, both will generate the same amount of heat (@ same clocks and volts) but one doesn't conduct that heat too the cooler as nicely...And because of crappy conductivity one will run hotter and/or louder even with same cooler @ Lower clocks/volts 

People used to delid 4770ks and ghetto rig solutions for them so they would run cooler (some did this without even overclocking them) there IS a reason for Devil's canyon to exist... And there's a reason you no longer see people reccomend 4770ks or talk about delidding a 4790k...

Do note: I'm just pointing out the difference so that you make an educated decision as it doesn't seem like you know the difference(based on the fact you made this thread asking and the remark about $20 only getting you 100Mhz boost which is far from true)

[I/O]

Do note: I'm just pointing out the difference so that you make an educated decision as it doesn't seem like you know the difference(based on the fact you made this thread asking and the remark about $20 only getting you 100Mhz boost which is far from true)

This thread was not made to entice trolling in any way. That said I would say in practice that both CPUs will be just a stable and reliable over the long haul.

[LemonSpice]

I would say that Windows would be much faster and snappier on a Core 2 Duo with an SSD than it would be on any Intel CPU even the $2500 12 core monster. Any somewhat modern CPU is plenty fast for basic Windows use like Internet browsing, YT, Facebook, Movie, Music, Email etc an SSD is what makes things snappy.

ehhh if that core runs on a sata gen 1 it wont be better than a 12core hdd with 4-way gtx980's

[GloriousPain]

This thread was not made to entice trolling in any way. That said I would say in practice that both CPUs will be just a stable and reliable over the long haul.

Wasn't trolling both will likely be plenty stable just one would be more stable than the other comparatively. and I was trying to inform you of the difference. 

[I/O]

ehhh if that core runs on a sata gen 1 it wont be better than a 12core hdd with 4-way gtx980's

An SSD makes Windows a much better and snappier experience than a high end beast CPU that is much overkill and redundant for menial tasks.

[LemonSpice]

An SSD makes Windows a much better and snappier experience than a high end beast CPU that is much overkill and redundant for menial tasks.

but you said it is more powerfuland is better if you ave the dual core it wil lag to hell as that is = to 2 fx cores at same clock so it is equal to 1 fx core

[I/O]

but you said it is more powerfuland is better if you ave the dual core it wil lag to hell as that is = to 2 fx cores at same clock so it is equal to 1 fx core

You are mixing desktop and gaming.

[LemonSpice]

You are mixing desktop and gaming.

no i am not when you open a program it will lag when you run a virus test it will almost die when you use chrome it will lag at least on new versions of windows

[I/O]

no i am not when you open a program it will lag when you run a virus test it will almost die when you use chrome it will lag at least on new versions of windows

What are you even talking about ? More specifically please.

[NumLock21]

Some Xeon E3 have a iGPU. From the same family, mostly higher TDP ones have it. The iGPU isn't the same as the desktop version.  Xeon uses HD P4600 or HD P4700, desktop runs on HD4600, except the embedded i5 and i7 which runs on Iris Pro 5200.

The P4600 has been optimized and certified to work with professional programs like AutoCad, Solidworks, Adobe Premiere, and others similar.