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How I Clocked my 'Locked' i5 4690 (Non-K) past 4.15Ghz

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OLD POST now with an Update

 

I'm still using this All-in-One Cooler from Intel (All my friends said it would die within a year lol)

The included fan, DIED within a month of normal usage at variable set speeds.

The Rest has been Cherry!

 

Have since upped from the i5 4690 Bclk'd to 4Ghz (60*c Avg 70*c Max) to a i7 4790K, upped that to 4.5Ghz (AllcoreTurbo/Daily Driver Clockspeeds) and upped the Cache to 4.4Ghz,.... I maintained 4.8Ghz /w 4.2Ghz Cache but the tradeoff heat was too much for the little AIO.

Anything under 1.3v is too easy, but 4.8Ghz requires a bit more than that...I saw 84*c spikes time to time.. as where 4.7Ghz Hardly broke 80*c maybe on one core...if at all.

 

This AIO cooler is due to be replaced maybe, I don't know, it still performs, but is now 3 years old.

 

 

So this revival isn't wasted.

What are your best 4790K clocks/settings?

To Start... For the TL:DR crowd, simply put, Maybe a lucky draw, but an awesome board,106.95BCLK*39=4.17Ghz,...


108Mhz Dies, 107.6Mhz+ Gets flaky, So 106.9Mhz was tested and found to be fine in all things tested (Synthetics/Game Playing/Encoding/Stresstesting CPU+GPU+RAM together)
As for the Locked CPU overclocking, well Asus has allowed it via some Firmware updates.
Link for more info - http://techreport.com/news/26650/asus-enables-haswell-overclocking-on-non-z-series-motherboards
"The motherboard maker's latest round of firmware updates for H97, H87, B85, and H81 motherboards promises overclocking support for K-series Haswell chips, including the latest Devil's Canyon derivatives and the anniversary-edition Pentium. H97 boards are limited to CPU multiplier control, but the others appear to have access to the same frequency and multiplier options as equivalent Z97 offerings"
Although with a Z-board I was gonna get it anyway.

Cooling - The Intel BXTS13X Liquid Cooler to replace my Hyper212 from 5 years ago, carried through builds..., it's a lot better obviously, temps are down on average 8-12*c and the sound profile has hugely dropped in decibels ,..using my already known/set overclocks on my i5, I put it through some Aida64 Stresstesting for 5-6mins to see average and max temps.

Overclocking the Non-K i5 4690 Processor using a HIGH BCLK of 106.95Mhz and most people would not be able to attain this, credit goes to the ASUS Z97-K, a brilliant Z97 Board for tinkerers with MANY Bios options.

I didn't even have to adjust voltage in the end, I did with testing, using Offset +.050 and such little additions.. Ended up being fine in the end on stock voltage.

The BCLK has taken my DDR3 XMP 1866Mhz up, so I took them further /w some voltage :) @ 2280Mhz /w Loosened Timings
Zero pump noise, that I can hear but I have not even had this that hot to require it either.
I boot with 1200'ish RPM and under load go up to 1400'ish Rpm max fan speed so far & the fan is 2000Rpm's capable.
Stock
Core i5-4690 4Cores / 4Threads Stock Clock 3500Mhz Turbo Clock 3900Mhz Cache 6 MB

CPU Info - http://ark.intel.com/products/80810/Intel-Core-i5-4690-Processor-6M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
Motherboard Info - http://www.asus.com/au/Motherboards/Z97K/

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2 x Chassis Fan connector(s) (2 x 4 -pin)

Expansion
The PCIe x1_1, PCIe x1_2 slots share bandwidth with PCIe x16_2.
The PCIe x16_2 slot runs at x2 mode as default. However x4 is available within the BIOS
M.2 Socket 3 shares bandwidth with SATA6G_5 & SATA6G_6 ports

 

Thanks for Reading.

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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nice job :)

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you can OC none k cpus? how.....

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teach me teh ways...

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Nice, that's just slightly higher than my current i5 4690K overclock, which is at ~3.9GHz with the MSI overclocking genie tool.

 

(Running with stock cooler so I'm not going to push it that much)

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whats with the non k chip and the z97 board?

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you can OC none k cpus? how.....

Link for more info - http://techreport.com/news/26650/asus-enables-haswell-overclocking-on-non-z-series-motherboards

 

"The motherboard maker's latest round of firmware updates for H97, H87, B85, and H81 motherboards promises overclocking support for K-series Haswell chips, including the latest Devil's Canyon derivatives and the anniversary-edition Pentium. H97 boards are limited to CPU multiplier control, but the others appear to have access to the same frequency and multiplier options as equivalent Z97 offerings"

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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 ^Bugger.. DP ,. Better watch that in future..

 

whats with the non k chip and the z97 board?

Board is a replacement for a Dead H97 which was RMA'd and then never used again.

Do plan on putting the i7 4790K, but have no needs that justify it.

Gaming on this i5 is the Tits, Encoding isn't that much slower because overall,.. I'm not doing it that much.

A good buy for at the time I was like "Limited funds,..i7 by Xmas, this will do."

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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  • 3 months later...

Incoming this week is an Asus Z97-C and already have an i5-4570 in my possession, so hopefully I can get this up to 36*106=3816MHz.

*fingers crossed*

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This Asus Z97-C board has loads of tweaks and options for overclocking. I love it.

I am able to get 36*105.5=3.8GHz, have not tried a higher bclk as yet.

Another step or two.... on top wouldn't do much benefit over what you've already achieved, well done.

105Mhz, still...not all boards will go that high either...

Very nice.

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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you can OC none k cpus? how.....

 

the "K" means they have an unlocked multiplier. you can overclock them the "old" way by increasing the bus speed - however current gen intel chips do not react very well to bus speed increases.

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the "K" means they have an unlocked multiplier. you can overclock them the "old" way by increasing the bus speed - however current gen intel chips do not react very well to bus speed increases.

Today it's 100Mhz FSB for Intel chips...

But aiming for 102-105mhz from a 100Mhz stock should be mostly fine on most motherboards... Lucky if you can pass it and remain stable. Like my 106.7Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz

 

Did love oldschool 220-250Mhz FSB's from stock 200FSB :)

Now so much these days, never will get that high unless originally by design (200Mhz stock)

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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  • 4 weeks later...

@Skillrebuilds is the Multiplier completely locked down or can you lower it? I've had locked CPU's (i5 750) before but I could alway pick a lower multiplier. Are you using an XMP ram setting I'm curious how that works with a locked "K" CPU. How did you use any of the Asus software windows to set any overclocking or did you do it all in the Bios?

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Still nice to get a little bit of a boost but since you have to overclock base i think it would have been more stable to just leave it at 3.9 turbo :)xD im just glad i went with my i5 4690k when i bought new PC parts 

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@Skillrebuilds is the Multiplier completely locked down or can you lower it? I've had locked CPU's (i5 750) before but I could alway pick a lower multiplier. Are you using an XMP ram setting I'm curious how that works with a locked "K" CPU. How did you use any of the Asus software windows to set any overclocking or did you do it all in the Bios?

 

Overclocking being locked to K-series chips wasn't a thing until Sandy Bridge, which is the generation to follow the first gen i3/i5/i7 chips.

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@Skillrebuilds is the Multiplier completely locked down or can you lower it? I've had locked CPU's (i5 750) before but I could alway pick a lower multiplier. Are you using an XMP ram setting I'm curious how that works with a locked "K" CPU. How did you use any of the Asus software windows to set any overclocking or did you do it all in the Bios?

Multi is locked to Turbo so in my case, x39, but you can downgrade the multi to a lower number.

But the good thing, x39 (3.9Ghz) Turbo across ALL cores on load, thanks to this Asus board as well, then the OC on top, makes it a nice boost

Speedstep still enabled ((Win7 only) Set Windows High performance Power profiles to 85% Min, 100% Max) = 3.5'ishGhz to my 4.15Ghz Turbo (currently), and it loves to seek&stay at 4.15Ghz in an instant, only backing off when I'm under 5% CPU utilization.

 

Didn't use software,..All in the Bios

As for XMP,.. Select it First and then declock Memory a step back from the dropdown list,..then Tweak the FSB/Baseclock) and up it all goes.

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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@Hieb in the First Gen I3/I5/I7 series the only CPU with "unlocked" Multiplier where the I7 980X 99X "X" for extreme they were about 1000$. And to say overclocking being locked to K-series chips is mis-information as the point of this post is some one talking about their success over clocking a non K-series. K series have locked Multiplies not Locked Overclocking. According to Intels web site its the Motherboard chipset (H97 vs Z97) that enables many of the overclocking setting. even at that some manufactures have some setting enables on the H97

 

http://ark.intel.com/compare/82012,82010

 

@SkilledRebuilds Thank you for the information, I was curious because to get my XMP ram to work with my I5 750 I had to increase the Bclk and reduce my CPU multiplyer to run stable and I didn't want to get a Non K if the XMP Ram wouldn't work.

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Oh... Okay. BCLK over locking as expected...

Do note that it MIGHT damage your other parts so yea. Which is why I clocked my 3570 to 4GHz by multiplier only.

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Oh... Okay. BCLK over locking as expected...

Do note that it MIGHT damage your other parts so yea. Which is why I clocked my 3570 to 4GHz by multiplier only.

I went into this with full knowledge of that happening.

Overclocking anything has a risk attached to it, some more risky than others, usually this IS out of peoples comfort zone...

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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I went into this with full knowledge of that happening.

Overclocking anything has a risk attached to it, some more risky than others, usually this IS out of peoples comfort zone...

Yeap... My system is already a little fincky and its been next to impossible to pinpoint the problem. Sp better not touch BCLK

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Yeap... My system is already a little fincky and its been next to impossible to pinpoint the problem. Sp better not touch BCLK

I hate that, when you have no idea on the finicky side of things...whats happening or the cause...

 

PSU/CPU/Mobo/Ram/Godknows whatelse can be the cause, and you've tried wrapping your head around it...

Tweaking values,....over and over,..New installs here and there... problems still persist...

God I hate that shit :(

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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  • 2 years later...

OLD POST now with an Update

 

I'm still using this All-in-One Cooler from Intel (All my friends said it would die within a year lol)

The included fan, DIED within a month of normal usage at variable set speeds.

The Rest has been Cherry!

 

Have since upped from the i5 4690 Bclk'd to 4Ghz (60*c Avg 70*c Max) to a i7 4790K, upped that to 4.5Ghz (AllcoreTurbo/Daily Driver Clockspeeds) and upped the Cache to 4.4Ghz,.... I maintained 4.8Ghz /w 4.2Ghz Cache but the tradeoff heat was too much for the little AIO.

Anything under 1.3v is too easy, but 4.8Ghz requires a bit more than that...I saw 84*c spikes time to time.. as where 4.7Ghz Hardly broke 80*c maybe on one core...if at all.

 

This AIO cooler is due to be replaced maybe, I don't know, it still performs, but is now 3 years old.

 

 

So this revival isn't wasted.

What are your best 4790K clocks/settings?

Maximums - Asus Z97-K /w i5 4690 Bclk @106.9Mhz * x39 = 4.17Ghz, 8GB of 2600Mhz DDR3,.. Gigabyte GTX970 G1-Gaming @ 1550Mhz

 

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  • 1 year later...

A true Jedi is able to balance the force.

 

A Jedi clocks their i5-4690 to 3.9 on all cores. 

 

They do this by their Z97-A motherboard bios and not through AI Suite DIP 5

 

A Jedi also sets base clock to 100.2 which gives their DDR3 1600 Crucial 2x8 GB kit slightly better bandwidth.

 

The results are stable and quite good. Higher clocks = More risk.

 

Never give in to the dark side.

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