"As independence vote looms, Scotland’s youths swept up in once-in-a-lifetime choice"

[TopWargamer]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/as-independence-vote-looms-scotlands-youths-swept-up-in-once-in-a-lifetime-choice/2014/07/02/06251b3f-ef2e-48de-bb7e-16891be78398_story.html

 

Definitely an interesting little read. I'm not Scottish, so I won't really say anything about this, but I'd like to hear what the Scottish folks of LTT think about this.

 

*Cough cough*

@ixi_your_face

@Whiskers

[AlwaysFSX]

I wonder what they'll vote. /sarcasm

[qwertywarrior]

i heard William Wallace will be there

I've heard he kills men by the hundreds. And he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse

[Phillyphries]

I'd like to see the UK stay united.

 

Any reason why it would be such a "great" idea for them to break up their union?

[dizmo]

I'd like to see the UK stay united.

 

Any reason why it would be such a "great" idea for them to break up their union?

I too wonder this.

I sort of seeing it being similar to Quebec wanting to separate from Canada.

Could they? Sure. But they'd have a hell of a time on their own.

[Phillyphries]

dizmo, on 05 Jul 2014 - 12:04 AM, said:

I too wonder this.

I sort of seeing it being similar to Quebec wanting to separate from Canada.

Could they? Sure. But they'd have a hell of a time on their own.

 

Leaving the union would mean leaving the EU, NATO, and the United Nations.

 

What about their currency?

 

Quebec separating from Canada would be a bad idea too for Canada as a whole

[AlwaysFSX]

I'd like to see the UK stay united.

 

Any reason why it would be such a "great" idea for them to break up their union?

They're United because the English is took the Scottish land through war and was more oppressive then than they are now. Or so I've read through books. I'm probably wrong in some aspect.

[daemonowner]

Regardless of their history, they need to look at their current situation and ask if it's really a good idea to leave.

[dizmo]

Leaving the union would mean leaving the EU, NATO, and the United Nations.

 

What about their currency?

 

Quebec separating from Canada would be a bad idea too for Canada as a whole

Didn't even think of the NATO/EU implications, though I'm sure they'd be welcomed into them.

 

Hah, yes and no.

I mean, sure I'd miss cheese curds and maple syrup. Not the French language though.

Quebec would lose out a lot more than the rest of Canada would.

I don't believe they could sustain themselves independently. They get massive amounts of money from the Canadian government, and pay little back.

[AlwaysFSX]

Regardless of their history, they need to look at their current situation and ask if it's really a good idea to leave.

People are too stuck on the past.

[Phillyphries]

They're United because the English is took the Scottish land through war and was more oppressive then than they are now. Or so I've read through books. I'm probably wrong in some aspect.

 

All of the European nations didn't support Scotland's idea to colonize Panama, so Scotland had to do it herself, and raise money to do it. The Scots bankrupted themselves apparently when the colonization of Panama failed and they lost 1/5th of their wealth. So England, scared that Scotland would establish trade and form an alliance with England's enemy, France, they pushed the Scots to unite their crowns and form the UK.

 

At least, that's what I think I remember from World History

[AlwaysFSX]

All of the European nations didn't support Scotland's idea to colonize Panama, so Scotland had to do it herself, and raise money to do it. The Scots bankrupted themselves apparently when the colonization of Panama failed and they lost 1/5th of their wealth. So England, scared that Scotland would establish trade and form an alliance with England's enemy, France, they pushed the Scots to unite their crowns and form the UK.

 

At least, that's what I think I remember from World History

I was asleep for most of that class so I'm going off of what I've read outside of school.

[Phillyphries]

dizmo, on 05 Jul 2014 - 12:22 AM, said:dizmo, on 05 Jul 2014 - 12:22 AM, said:dizmo, on 05 Jul 2014 - 12:22 AM, said:dizmo, on 05 Jul 2014 - 12:22 AM, said:

Didn't even think of the NATO/EU implications, though I'm sure they'd be welcomed into them.

 

Hah, yes and no.

I mean, sure I'd miss cheese curds and maple syrup. Not the French language though.

Quebec would lose out a lot more than the rest of Canada would.

I don't believe they could sustain themselves independently. They get massive amounts of money from the Canadian government, and pay little back.

 

But I love the French language

 

I didn't know that. Well, that'd probably be bad unless they give themselves back to France :lol:

 

Apparently there are problems for Scotland to rejoin the EU. Firstly, I think it would take several years for their application to be accepted. Also I think a lot of EU members are against it because they don't see the up-side. I heard they generally don't support breakaway nations anyway. Spain for example doesn't support it because it would inspire Catalonians to do it too. Nations generally don't like it when their people want to separate.

[RainColt]

Didn't even think of the NATO/EU implications, though I'm sure they'd be welcomed into them.

 

Hah, yes and no.

I mean, sure I'd miss cheese curds and maple syrup. Not the French language though.

Quebec would lose out a lot more than the rest of Canada would.

I don't believe they could sustain themselves independently. They get massive amounts of money from the Canadian government, and pay little back.

Well, even Canada and Quebec is a difficult subject. If they split will they still use the Canadian dollar, would the laws change, would there government continue to honor the first nations treaties signed by Canada? Canadian would have to cross into a different country just to get to the other side of there own. Everything about Quebec splitting is inconvenient.