56 attacks avoided due to NSA's Prism program

[Jeroen1322]

I'll copy and paste the Dutch article because i'm in school right now and don't have much time.

 

"In the Netherlands, an attack thwarted thanks to the efforts of the extensive spying program Prism NSA . That the Ministers of the Interior , Defence and Security and Justice indicated to the committee for the Intelligence and Security Services last year.

The committee held on July 3, 2013 a meeting with ministers on the interception of data using the Prism program that the NSA used for intelligence gathering . "In the meeting, the committee reported that thanks to the efforts of Prism 26 attacks in Europe , including the Netherlands , have been foiled ," writes the committee 's report on its work .

End of July 2013 was the head of the NSA were already known through eavesdropping programs like Prism worldwide 54 attacks foiled . Maybe the specified 26 attacks that occur in Europe are part of it . This would not only go for information from Prism , which led to foreclosure but also the other programs of the NSA eavesdropping .

The unveiling of Prism did start in June 2013 uproar . PRISM program provides investigation services according to leaked documents from whistleblowers Snowden direct access to servers from Microsoft, Yahoo , Google , Facebook , PalTalk , AOL , Skype , YouTube and Apple. Through the Prism program include e - mails , videos , photos and documents would be collected for analysis by the investigative agencies . The project was described in a leaked slide as the main source of information for the daily intelligence briefings given President Obama on his desk ."

 

 

 

Source: (Dutch) http://tweakers.net/nieuws/96255/nsas-prism-afluisterprogramma-voorkwam-aanslag-in-nederland.html

 

Sorry there was a type in the title!

[LAwLz]

I'd like some more info on what they consider "attacks" because last time I checked, they included things like a 1000 dollar donation to Al Qaida in the "~50 attacks stopped" number.

[Jeroen1322]

I'd like some more info on what they consider "attacks" because last time I checked, they included things like a 1000 dollar donation to Al Qaida in the "~50 attacks stopped" number.

That isn't included in the article but if i find out i'll let you know

[Stampkonijn]

"all hail the Americans''

[Vitalius]

See, that's the problem with stuff like this. If there is no transparency, we can't trust their claims which are obviously made to get us to trust them. If the only ones allowed to give them oversight is themselves, they can say whatever they want and as far as we are concerned, it about as true as anything anyone else says about them. 

It's dumb. It's sort of like if you were to get into an accident with a police officer, and you had dashcam footage of the occurrence, then that same police officer were charged with handling the evidence in your case against him and his precinct. 

It's 100% dumb.

[SirRoderick]

Neither the commision's report nor the NSA's own anouncement actually gives any concrete details. The NSA mentions a few potential attacks but never goes into HOW PRISM prevented them. These may very well be entirely seperate directed efforts that are being attributed to PRISM after the fact.

[Moosie]

This seems to be old news that has already been torn apart. The NSA director used the word "attacks" instead of "activities" in a presentation, and the headline spread through the press with the misleading wording. On top of that, the activities or plots that they found out about, they didn't seem to have done so through bulk data collection, but rather through more traditional, already legal methods.

http://www.propublica.org/article/claim-on-attacks-thwarted-by-nsa-spreads-despite-lack-of-evidence

[Paralectic]

Propaganda! by this they are trying to approve their big-scale spying on every single country in the world.

" yes but we stopped terrorists ", bullshit. All this spying is to get might and money, It's all about that.

 

Pathetic USA with their NSA morons.

[qwertywarrior]

i really dont know about this

can something like  this be considered an

[Mooshi]

I could claim I solved world hunger and stopped 9001 terrorists attacks, but you'd be a fool to believe me without evidence. Where is the proof, NSA? We're waiting.

 

[kuddlesworth9419]

That isn't very many and how many of them where actually attacks and how many where just mistakes. Someone clicking on the wrong folder, it asks for a password and they enter in the wrong password. 

[TheProfosist]

That slide looks... Well like someone on the internet made it.

[Askew]

Meanwhile in Cali, motherfucker posts a video detailing his plans to commit crime on YouTube and nobody stops him.

 

lol pick your cases gentlemen.

[Hulk]

This is really old news (a few months atleast) and the NSA has mentioned that they aren't going to give out any facts pertaining to the actual events that have been stopped, so as it stands, 56 is just a number for the time being.

[Beskamir]

50 is just a number

[Misanthrope]

Cute, I wonder how many they have and will instigate by their overzealous and illegal operations. That's a number I'd like to see, it's like the War on Drugs of the digital age.

[Syntaxvgm]

What the fucker ever.

People have short memories. http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-plots-helped-along-by-the-fbi.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

[Wint3rSh0ck]

Unrelated to the point at hand, but does anyone else find how terrible the PRISM slides look laughable? I've seen better slide layouts by 16 year olds in high school.

[StingBull]

"We spied on literally millions of people worldwide and stopped just 56 "attacks". CAN YOU NOT SEE, THE SYSTEM IS PERFECT."

[wpirobotbuilder]

I wonder if people have considered that maybe the people giving the talk weren't allowed to talk about the specific nature of the attacks. Security clearances are tricky things (and breaking them is very serious).

 

If there were significant attacks stopped, then maybe the NSA could claim a small victory in their mission. We won't know until we get more details, so speculating about the attacks is sort of pointless.

 

Propaganda! by this they are trying to approve their big-scale spying on every single country in the world.

" yes but we stopped terrorists ", bullshit. All this spying is to get might and money, It's all about that.

 

Pathetic USA with their NSA morons.

We're already kind of a laughingstock thanks to certain policies in the past decade, not to mention the current political crisis we're in (and it really is a crisis).

 

Not sure if you can make the argument for money, but you can definitely make the argument for power.

 

Also, I hope you distinguish the U.S. government from it's citizens.

[Paralectic]

I wonder if people have considered that maybe the people giving the talk weren't allowed to talk about the specific nature of the attacks. Security clearances are tricky things (and breaking them is very serious).

 

If there were significant attacks stopped, then maybe the NSA could claim a small victory in their mission. We won't know until we get more details, so speculating about the attacks is sort of pointless.

 

We're already kind of a laughingstock thanks to certain policies in the past decade, not to mention the current political crisis we're in (and it really is a crisis).

 

Not sure if you can make the argument for money, but you can definitely make the argument for power.

 

Also, I hope you distinguish the U.S. government from it's citizens.

Money is power.

 

And I certainly distinguish these two.

[Frankz]

Person of interest(tv show) on a worldwide scale. These are the relevant numbers!