EVGA makes motherboards. They are $700 and up. Why? What could these motherboards possibly be doing to warrant this kind of price?

[MrZoraman]

There's a lot I don't know. What makes these motherboards so special? What do they know that I don't?

[Poinkachu]

8 minutes ago, MrZoraman said:

There's a lot I don't know. What makes these motherboards so special? What do they know that I don't?

OC motherboard.

Features and niceys for pro level overclocking, extra niceys even for non overclocker that needs / wants the niceys

Stronk VRM, etc

 

Pretty sure there's some other brands that has motherboard with that kinda price tag as well.

Be it OC motherboard, or Limited Edition Collection motherboard

 

[mariushm]

kinda overkill vrms (19-21 phases with big power stages, for example 105A stages ), 10gbps onboard is around 40-50$ extra, optimized for overclockers with extra features in bios for overclocking, LN2 (liquid nitrogen and sub zero temperatures) ,  moving the ram on top and rotating the socket to make it easier for sub zero temps overclocking

 

They also use server grade circuit boards, with up to 12-14 layers ... a typical z790 board may go up to 6-8 layers.,, more layers, more expensive, and we're talking high end circuit board material rated for pci-e 5.0 signal quality etc etc

 

GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Master X is $500 and isn't as overkill as those evga boards : https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-Z790-AORUS-EZ-Latch-Motherboard/dp/B083RVX2FQ/

 

 

[PDifolco]

7 minutes ago, MrZoraman said:

There's a lot I don't know. What makes these motherboards so special? What do they know that I don't?

Many hi end Z790 boards are $700+, up to $1200 (MSI Godlike Max), not only EVGA's

[aisle9]

You're paying for the name.

 

Or, more amusingly, they have a special M.2 attachment that will blow you...r mind.

[RONOTHAN##]

Before anything, I'd like to change an assessment in the title, EVGA made motherboards, they don't still make them. They only make PSUs nowadays, and anything you find will be new-old stock. 

 

As for why they were special, they were relatively limited run and tended to have a lot of BIOS work done to them to make them really good at overclocking. The Z790 Dark Kingpin is one of the best memory overclocking motherboards you could buy, and the Z790 Classified was one of the best motherboards for overclocking 4x16GB of memory, with both of those boards having just about the best VRM on LGA 1700 (the only boards that were better were the Apex series from ASUS). They also tended to be just overbuilt to the extreme, the Z790 Dark Kingpin was a 14 layer board IIRC, while it's hard to find another board above 8 layers, let alone 10. 

 

Nowadays though they're just collectors items. 

[freeagent]

Those boards are DOA out of the door. Since their BIOS guys jumped ship, no one has been there to code for 14th gen.. 

 

Good for a collector of days gone by.

[MrZoraman]

Thanks everyone for your response. I had no idea motherboards could go for $1200+. That blows my mind.... I also didn't know EVGA stopped making motherboards. I guess they're all done making hardware now?

[Poinkachu]

1 minute ago, MrZoraman said:

Thanks everyone for your response. I had no idea motherboards could go for $1200+. That blows my mind.... I also didn't know EVGA stopped making motherboards. I guess they're all done making hardware now?

IIRC, they just make PSU now.

[8tg]

This is hardware that’s designed around extreme overclocking. You can slap liquid nitrogen and shove power into any motherboard but to have something designed for that is entirely different.

At least the Dark. The classified is for posers who want the dark but also want 4 ram slots and will never do any extreme overclock ever.

 

Thats why the ram slots and the socket are the orientation they are, and why they have absurd power delivery setups, they have pin outs for external sensor monitors and such, extra power connectors, more advance bios features is an understatement to say the least.
 

It’s specialty hardware. It’s not just a flashy alternative design option, it’s a very capable piece of kit.

[MadAnt250]

35 minutes ago, Poinkachu said:

IIRC, they just make PSU now.

Aren't they just Super Flower PSUs with their case and stickers on it? Oh boy! What does EVGA have left?

[8tg]

42 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

Aren't they just Super Flower PSUs with their case and stickers on it? Oh boy! What does EVGA have left?

Peripherals, power supplies, liquid coolers and capture cards. 

They also tried doing a sound card a few years ago but then around the same time creative released new soundblasters so anyone who wanted a soundcard bought one of those instead.

And anyone with a brain who for some reason still wanted a sound card bought an HT anyway.

 

Very few computer products are really made by the brand name as a manufacturer, especially power supplies, thats not really anything special.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, 8tg said:

ery few computer products are really made by the brand name as a manufacturer, especially power supplies, thats not really anything special.

For PSUs I don't think the brand name is even the designer, same for the rest of EVGA's current lineup. Sad for a brilliant company like this to end up being a reseller.

[Guest]

Because the know that gamers will pay anything so they can brag that they own one to their acquaints.

[MadAnt250]

1 hour ago, 8tg said:

Peripherals, power supplies, liquid coolers and capture cards. 

They also tried doing a sound card a few years ago but then around the same time creative released new soundblasters so anyone who wanted a soundcard bought one of those instead.

And anyone with a brain who for some reason still wanted a sound card bought an HT anyway.

 

Very few computer products are really made by the brand name as a manufacturer, especially power supplies, thats not really anything special.

Ah ha! I forgot about that stuff.

[freeagent]

11 minutes ago, Thomas4 said:

Because the know that gamers will pay anything so they can brag that they own one to their acquaints.

 

Yeah.. no.

 

Most gamers cant afford hardware like that. And out of the guys that can, only buy things like that because they can, the other guys use it as a tool, and only a tool. No 24/7 use, most of the time used outside of a case. 

[Somerandomtechyboi]

2 hours ago, RONOTHAN## said:

Before anything, I'd like to change an assessment in the title, EVGA made motherboards, they don't still make them. They only make PSUs nowadays, and anything you find will be new-old stock. 

 

As for why they were special, they were relatively limited run and tended to have a lot of BIOS work done to them to make them really good at overclocking. The Z790 Dark Kingpin is one of the best memory overclocking motherboards you could buy, and the Z790 Classified was one of the best motherboards for overclocking 4x16GB of memory, with both of those boards having just about the best VRM on LGA 1700 (the only boards that were better were the Apex series from ASUS). They also tended to be just overbuilt to the extreme, the Z790 Dark Kingpin was a 14 layer board IIRC, while it's hard to find another board above 8 layers, let alone 10. 

 

Nowadays though they're just collectors items. 

^^^

for a more common oc board theres the apex encore

 

and god damn 14 layers? no wonder why the classified is so good at clocking 4 stick

[RONOTHAN##]

Just now, Somerandomtechyboi said:

and god damn 14 layers? no wonder why the classified is so good at clocking 4 stick

14 is only the Dark, the Classified IIRC is only 12. Besides, more layers doesn't always mean better, odds are it's more BIOS optimization than anyhting. 

[Dedayog]

OC'ers and Suckers.

 

 

[thrasher_565]

lets just say its classified...

[Mick Naughty]

Nothing new, other companies have and are still doing the same.