Modern gaming sucks

[MG2R]

Coming from a thirty-something dude with planning issues, anytime I get to say "let's game for an hour", I spend easily twenty minutes of the hour re-logging in to the multiple accounts needed for a single game, reading new license terms because changing the deal after purchase is apparently a thing, and updating my local single player game with forced internet connections and updates. Just let me play the damn game already.

 

Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.

Sincerely, an annoyed gamer trying to finally get into MSFS2020 after a month or two.

 

 

Update: somewhere between Steams cloud saves and MS' forced online crap they lost all my settings, custom profiles, etc... I ain't playing today. Thanks modern gaming.

 

Update2: my progress through flight training has been lost as well. Honestly this is horrendous.

Edited November 4, 2023 by MG2R

[porina]

7 minutes ago, MG2R said:

updating my local single player game with forced internet connections and updates. Just let me play the damn game already.

That's me on the PS4/PS5. I don't use them regularly enough, so whenever I do feel like it, it needs to do a system update and software update first. With a more regularly used system like my PC, I still get the updates but it feels less common.

[TetraSky]

When you want to play a game right now while you have free time...

But the game has a 14GB update and it doesn't give any option to simply "skip" this update to keep playing the outdated version... You HAVE to update. Guess I'm not playing for the next 45 minutes, which will leave me with 20 minutes to play before I need to go afterward.... may as well not play.

[NavyCobra1417]

My own personal anecdote: Buying a steam deck allowed me to reinvest time into single player games and shorter gaming sessions. Having a device that I can grab and quick resume a civ v save or even stuff like rocket league has been Fantastic. 

 

I keep it by my bed and I can hop on for 20 minutes or 2 hours and get some quality gaming in without the distractions and hassles of sitting at my desktop. 

[LloydLynx]

I have Steam only for BeamNG. Sometimes Steam needs to download a 300MB update for itself, and sometimes BeamNG needs a multi-gigabyte update. This is on 6 Mbit/s down and 1.5 Mbit/s up internet. On top of that, after a BeamNG update all the cache get deleted so I have to wait 5-10 minutes for all the assets to regenerate for every map that I load. On top of even that, major game updates wipe out all my data and setting so I have to avoid launching the game until I have the game folder fully copied.

 

And Steam is the respected one among modern gamers. I don't even wanna know what using all the other launchers is like.

[Mark Kaine]

honestly kinda sounds like user error to me. yes, shit happens, but A no one is forcing you to play games with forced online, B as per my first sentence, cloud save errors are typically not even close to this frequent, B2 offline saves are a thing, C try playing better games. 

 

personally, i get it, sometimes online multiplayer can be fun, but you have to be really picky about them, do some research,  make sure they don't have practices that don't align with your expectations, etc.

 

 

ironically im currently having a *lot* of fun with OW, and that game sure has a ton of questionable stuff, but, i also really like the aspect you can unlock stuff, and most of it is free, or actually not that expensive (10 bucks per season) 

yes, there are $25 skins, but you don't *have* to get them, in fact the default skins are ok and dont make the game more or less fun...

 

actually,  you get a shit to of free "currency" which you can use to buy tons of stuff, you even get  some premium currency too... its actually pretty old school in that regard,  i love unlocking stuff! even the game play is kinda clunky, i love it (lol), just missing tank controls UwU

 

 

...

 

 

yeah, i get it, everything i said sounds like a lot of work, but then it really isn't as long you have *fun* ...

 

do you have fun playing video games,  what are your favorite genres, what's your favorite games, why do you play video games?

 

maybe that helps people to suggest some games...

 

 

14 hours ago, TetraSky said:

When you want to play a game right now while you have free time...

But the game has a 14GB update and it doesn't give any option to simply "skip" this update to keep playing the outdated version... You HAVE to update. Guess I'm not playing for the next 45 minutes, which will leave me with 20 minutes to play before I need to go afterward.... may as well not play.

i LOVE everything about this game, except the gameplay, the artstyle and the animations... lol... but the devs definitely have my support (in spirit),  lesgo!  

[Mark Kaine]

12 hours ago, LloydLynx said:

I have Steam only for BeamNG. Sometimes Steam needs to download a 300MB update for itself, and sometimes BeamNG needs a multi-gigabyte update. This is on 6 Mbit/s down and 1.5 Mbit/s up internet. On top of that, after a BeamNG update all the cache get deleted so I have to wait 5-10 minutes for all the assets to regenerate for every map that I load. On top of even that, major game updates wipe out all my data and setting so I have to avoid launching the game until I have the game folder fully copied.

 

And Steam is the respected one among modern gamers. I don't even wanna know what using all the other launchers is like.

ok, i have like zero issues with steam, updates are usually very fast, the client updates take 30 seconds top?

battlenet same thing, extremely fast. i even like the ui better,  it feels more modern than steam (steam has more options tho)

[circeseye]

on steam it really depends on the game...some download and install fast, some download slow update fast, but the most annoying is the small or fast download and the take forever to install. ive had like 30mb update take almost a damn hour to install it. dead by daylight was good for that, but theres others now also
other game browsers ive used are pretty consistent downloading and updating

[4bettingrags]

There's no QoL with these modern gaming platforms. I say this as somebody who's been an active user on Steam since the beta. Guess what? They had an offline feature in the past, but this all pales in comparison to the real issues, imo.

 

I do find myself increasingly disillusioned with the current state of the industry, even though I still enjoy and play the classics from time to time. It seems for every rare gem that gets released, there's 10 not worth even doing your due diligence on because it's safe to assume that at the foundation, it's the same regurgitated garbage with a shiny facade. There is no substance in today's AAA titles.

 

It's hard to pin-point where and when the shift happened. I think there's a correlation between when EA first implemented loot-boxes and when other companies took notice and shortly followed suit. Blizzard not long after introduced a WoW token, then added superficial items to their in-game shop. That would've been around 2014. Anyway, the modus operandi of these multi-billion-dollar companies is to rush out a product, no matter how FUBAR it is, then "fix it later". I have always been a CoD and BF fanboy, so it genuinely hurts watching the downfall unfold before my very eyes. BF3, BF1, and OG MW2 will always hold a special place in my heart. /endrant

 

[Mark Kaine]

9 hours ago, circeseye said:

on steam it really depends on the game...some download and install fast, some download slow update fast, but the most annoying is the small or fast download and the take forever to install. ive had like 30mb update take almost a damn hour to install it

........ that's actually true, i had this happen too, but the truth is i dont know if *any* of the common explanations makes *any* sense... (well except maybe server overload ig)

but the other truth is i didn't have this happen in over a year even with games that previously had this issue. 

 

Tbh, i don't really like steam or valve, but generally i have very little issues with steam, especially the last couple of years...

[Mark Kaine]

4 hours ago, 4bettingrags said:

There's no QoL with these modern gaming platforms. I say this as somebody who's been an active user on Steam since the beta. Guess what? They had an offline feature in the past, but this all pales in comparison to the real issues, imo.

its the reason i stopped playing on consoles... as per above i don't really have this issue on steam, or battlenet ...

 

since when did steam remove offline mode? lol... its still there for me.  

 

 

ps: and per above,  i really try limiting the "online only" games im playing... i imagine someone who's playing a lot of them isn't going to have a good time (re: user error, frankly)

[4bettingrags]

1 minute ago, Mark Kaine said:

its the reason i stopped playing on consoles... as per above i don't really have this issue on steam, or battlenet ...

 

since when did they remove offline mode? lol... its still there for me.  

 

Poor wording on my part, I guess. I meant that when the platform was in its infancy, you could play games even while in offline mode.

[Mark Kaine]

2 minutes ago, 4bettingrags said:

 

Poor wording on my part, I guess. I meant that when the platform was in its infancy, you could play games even while in offline mode.

you still can...... 

 

(fyi steam on my laptop is in offline mode for over a year now, can still play games last time i checked) 

 

ima repeat this here:

 

9 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

i really try limiting the "online only" games im playing... i imagine someone who's playing a lot of them isn't going to have a good time

...

[4bettingrags]

6 minutes ago, Mark Kaine said:

you still can...... 

 

(fyi steam on my laptop is in offline mode for over a year now, can still play games last time i checked) 

 

ima repeat this here:

 

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Not without issues. There's workarounds, but even if you succeed, it's a massive inconvenience.

[Mark Kaine]

3 hours ago, 4bettingrags said:

 

Not without issues. There's workarounds, but even if you succeed, it's a massive inconvenience.

https://help.steampowered.com/en/faqs/view/0E18-319B-E34B-B2C8

 

hope this helps