So MINI USB 3.0 is apparently a thing and it was way better than Micro 3.0

[Necro compute]

Basically the title, stumbled across this online 

You can count the 10 pins inside the mini-b USB end so it is a genuine 3.0 cable not just a blue colored 2.0 cable (mini & micro have an extra pin for OTG support).
For reference this is what a 3.0 Micro USB cable was like

I feel like there is a story here...

[Tan3l6]

USB standads suck generally.

 

https://helpful.knobs-dials.com/index.php/Common_plugs_and_connectors#USB

[williamcll]

It looks like it's only limited to USB2 mode however.

[LogicalDrm]

Your post does not really elaborate on "way better" part. I have one of these. Its for mini SATA adapter that I use with 2.5" drives. I'm not 100% on what kind of speeds it gets.

[Sarra]

2 hours ago, Tan3l6 said:

USB standads suck generally.

 

https://helpful.knobs-dials.com/index.php/Common_plugs_and_connectors#USB

They should rename it 'CSB'. Or 'SSB'.

 

Quite frankly, USB C is so much less annoying to use, I'd rather use it for all of my peripherals, with some small exceptions. If I could convert my keyboard, mouse, and everything else to C, I would.

 

I legit hated reality when A, mini, and micro were common. I just got a micro keyboard for my Steam Deck, and I HATE the USB 2.0 Mini connector on it. D:

[Necro compute]

28 minutes ago, Sarra said:

They should rename it 'CSB'. Or 'SSB'.

 

Quite frankly, USB C is so much less annoying to use, I'd rather use it for all of my peripherals, with some small exceptions. If I could convert my keyboard, mouse, and everything else to C, I would.

 

I legit hated reality when A, mini, and micro were common. I just got a micro keyboard for my Steam Deck, and I HATE the USB 2.0 Mini connector on it. D:

Mini or micro? In 10 years I have never seen a Mini usb Plug/socket fail, it's about once every 2-3 months for micro cables and 6-8 months for type C

 

[LogicalDrm]

7 minutes ago, Necro compute said:

Mini or micro? In 10 years I have never seen a Mini usb Plug/socket fail, it's about once every 2-3 months for micro cables and 6-8 months for type C

 

What are you using them for? Fish hooks? In last 10 years I've had as many mini's as micros die. No USB3 micros, couple of As, no Cs or Bs, So your point is durability? Does your 2-3 months include both USB2 and 3 or just 2?

[Necro compute]

20 minutes ago, LogicalDrm said:

What are you using them for? Fish hooks? In last 10 years I've had as many mini's as micros die. No USB3 micros, couple of As, no Cs or Bs, So your point is durability? Does your 2-3 months include both USB2 and 3 or just 2?

I'm taking about micro USB 2.0 and type C cables, Micro USB has two little hooks on it that wear down thus requiring regular replacing. The port side is also rather fragile and prone to breaking from stress the weight of the cable puts on it. As for type C they after about 6 months of use they start to cut out if you move the device they are connected to even slightly, not to mention is easily crushed under foot with most phone chargers spending their life near the floor that's a genuine concern.

By comparison the old MINI USB cable I use with my Dualshock 3 controller still works after all these years.

[Sarra]

29 minutes ago, Necro compute said:

Mini or micro? In 10 years I have never seen a Mini usb Plug/socket fail, it's about once every 2-3 months for micro cables and 6-8 months for type C

 

I dislike both with a burning passion.

 

I don't care about failures (I've had both types fail, but not rapidly), it's more about how easy/difficult it is to get it to insert easily. Type C is just 'jam it in and go', A, mini, and micro are 'jam it in, doesn't fit, fiddle with it, get it in, wait for it to connect, then go'. A at least is fast to figure out when it's wrong way, mini and micro, especially if you can't actually see the female end, can be a royal pain.

[tkitch]

Mini USB is an old USB 2 standard.  

I can't find any reference to mini USB existing for USB 3.

 

 

Mini USB B is older than Micro USB B is, and those are both older than USB C.

 

USB C is objectively superior to all previous "tiny USB connectors" that were in common use.  

[Erioch]

Last time I used mini usb was for a Garmin.  I think I still have one of those lying around somewhere.

[Necro compute]

1 hour ago, Sarra said:

I dislike both with a burning passion.

 

I don't care about failures (I've had both types fail, but not rapidly), it's more about how easy/difficult it is to get it to insert easily. Type C is just 'jam it in and go', A, mini, and micro are 'jam it in, doesn't fit, fiddle with it, get it in, wait for it to connect, then go'. A at least is fast to figure out when it's wrong way, mini and micro, especially if you can't actually see the female end, can be a royal pain.

Considering the type of device you usually find them on... I have a hard time picturing that scenario. Are you plugging stuff in the dark?

[IPD]

I eagerly await the day I can refresh all of my portable HDD with ones that don't need a god-awful micro-b plug.

[LogicalDrm]

1 hour ago, Necro compute said:

I'm taking about micro USB 2.0 and type C cables, Micro USB has two little hooks on it that wear down thus requiring regular replacing. The port side is also rather fragile and prone to breaking from stress the weight of the cable puts on it. As for type C they after about 6 months of use they start to cut out if you move the device they are connected to even slightly, not to mention is easily crushed under foot with most phone chargers spending their life near the floor that's a genuine concern.

By comparison the old MINI USB cable I use with my Dualshock 3 controller still works after all these years.

So no experience on USB3 micro B's breaking then? You are very hard trying to make a case that mini B is better with USB3 while not using USB3 connectors as your examples.

[Kilrah]

Mini USB3 was never a thing officially. Now it wouldn't be surprising if some companies made nonstandard stuff, just like GoPro used a dual-sided MiniUSB similar to those so they could have more pins to add AV out.

Never seen a device that would have had one. 

Note that you can find cables on sites similar to what you likely found this on that make no sense at all and would never work with anything - someone will buy them thinking they do.

 

1 hour ago, Necro compute said:

Micro USB has two little hooks on it that wear down

By spec when used "correctly" Mini-USB is actually rated for fewer mating cycles than micro. It's when abused that micro falls behind.

[Helpful Tech Witch]

honestly, mini can die just as fast as micro can, I have to get a mini usb cable for my calculator and ughh
I want usb c on everything, now

[Pickles von Brine]

USB C is superior but has its own issues. 

[Jito463]

I'm pretty sure this is just someone making an oddball cable, not an actual standard.  Here's a similar cable from Newegg, that looks more like what I would expect it to.

 

[LogicalDrm]

Sp. like I said earlier, I actually have one of these. Its paired with USB to mini-SATA adapter. Now, as I'm not sure if I have USB2 cable that would pair with that adapter (the one with 2x USB-A for power), I can't compare USB2 to USB3 speeds on same drive. Here's the results with Kingston HyperX 3K SSD I usually have in USB3 drive enclosure:

For reference, same drive in its normal enclosure: