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Do NOT Buy This For Gaming!

LG sent us one of their new mastering monitors currently being used by a few Disney studios. At 60Hz it might not be great for gaming, but can the LG 32EP950 provide an amazingly color-accurate experience?

 

 

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me who had to save a lot of money to buy my normal monitor : sure! i wont buy a pro 3k $, maybe i buy the next gen 😉 ,

4 real tho : i can see my self as a noob-pro artist with little budget who wants to step up my game, this being an absolute deal!

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If you are in the industry for colour accuracy, i can see it, but $4000 is more than most "high end" builds

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YES!

 

I was waiting for OLED to come to more sensible display sizes like 27" and 32" for so long! This was really just the only thing that was missing to create my perfect display and now that LG is apparently working on a higher refresh model, I'm super excited!

 

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15 minutes ago, Tantawi said:
What is the name of the first game that Linux was playing?
 

I think it was Shadow of the Tomb Raider.

 

I'm not sure I agree with their methodogy for the comparison with the $800 sRGB display, as the second one was not calibrated (It had a definightly green tint in the video), and that was what made the difference rather than the colourspace (which was the same in that test anyway) Another difference was probably the bit depth of the display, as the LG monitor was at least 10 bit (possibly 12 bit) which means that it would be able to display more gradiations of colour within the sRGB space. The point of colour spaces is that things look the same when displayed in the same colour space, regardless of display. This does, of course, assume that the display is acurately calibrated, but any 100% sRGB display should look the same with sRGB content.

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It would be nice to post the URL to the document of the LG engineer you referred to in the end. In general, if you say that we can look at something in a video, please post the links in the description.

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19 hours ago, Senzelian said:

YES!

 

I was waiting for OLED to come to more sensible display sizes like 27" and 32" for so long! This was really just the only thing that was missing to create my perfect display and now that LG is apparently working on a higher refresh model, I'm super excited!

 

I'd also be excited about a higher refresh rate model.

 

But i won't be excited about it's price tag...

 

And apparently these monitors don't use LG's own OLED panels, but ones from JOLED which is the main reason they're so expensive.

 

EDIT: AU Optronics, one of the biggest panel suppliers for the PC monitor industry just recently announced upcoming 27" and 32" 144Hz AMOLED panels. This is what i'm excited about. I really hope they can offer their panels (or the monitors they end up in) for a better price than LG.

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Talking about 10-bit monitors - would a monitor with native 10-bit panel, like AOC AG274QZP produce no "banding" (or whatsever it's called) in games?

As with a native 8-bit panel the gray tones and other colors subtones tend to stick out if they are close. Not so visible during action, but when looking at while still, the tones stand apart.

... but I'm no expert.

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IMO you should have compared this display at factory calibration vs that of a regular 'consumer' mid range display at factory calibration.

 

Just to show the stark difference between a good factory calibration and a bad one.

 

Most people dont run a custom accurate calibration.

In addition, even if the color space of a lower end display is less than that of a high end one, when both are calibrated to be accurate within what they can produce, the difference to the eye is marginal unless the color space difference is truly vast.

 

One of the benefits of an expensive monitor like this LG one is the factory calibration. As such you should have shown that. In reality ur more likely going to see differences akin to the massive over saturation of the last monitor you compared it to, as well as white balance issues.

 

The vast majority of people, VAST MAJORITY, are not seeing games, movies, and pictures as the creator intended due to the poor calibration of their display.

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6 minutes ago, Tan3l6 said:

Talking about 10-bit monitors - would a monitor with native 10-bit panel, like AOC AG274QZP produce no "banding" (or whatsever it's called) in games?

As with a native 8-bit panel the gray tones and other colors subtones tend to stick out if they are close. Not so visible during action, but when looking at while still, the tones stand apart.

There are many 8bit+FRC panels that can display perfect or close to perfect 10bit gradients. Imo a native 10bit panel is not even needed for pro work.

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Just now, Stahlmann said:

There are many 8bit+FRC panels that can display perfect or close to perfect 10bit gradients. Imo a native 10bit panel is not even needed for pro work.

Ok, I assumed that.

And indeed 8-bit is looking worse than my previous "10-bit" 8-bit + FRC monitors.

 

... but I'm no expert.

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13 minutes ago, SolarNova said:

One of the benefits of an expensive monitor like this LG one is the factory calibration.

Not a big benefit imo.

 

Color will drift over time and because of that you can perfectly calibrate your monitor in the factory, but in the end it will be inaccurate down the line. Anyone who really NEEDS accurate colors should invest in the proper hardware to calibrate your displays yourself. No color critical artist should ever rely on factory calibration, no matter at which price point they're shopping.

 

Something that is much more useful than factory calibration is a hardware calibration feature. And LG has done a good job including that in their high-end offerings, even the gaming ones. This way you also don't have to rely on software support for ICC profiles.

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why would they test this with such a colorless game? The only colors that game had were browns and greens.

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Why not..

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I'm in the business of producing large single-run reproduction prints onto archival media. All that matters is the print media, the inks and the expectations of the client. Chasing after so-called perfect colour calibration on a monitor is a mug's game. Almost a scam. A decent monitor on which we can soft-proof with reasonable confidence is entirely adequate. A few printed test proofs viewed by practiced eyes makes monitor calibration practically moot. I certainly wouldn't pay $4000.00 dollars for a marginally "better' starting point than any decent wide gamut monitor provides. In my work flow the monitor is the weakest link and no matter how much money gets thrown at them they always will be.

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