This INSANE Gaming PC Has NO MOVING PARTS - MonsterLabo The Beast

[ColinLTT]

We're packing WAY too much heat into a case that is almost entirely heatsinks to find out just how far fanless gaming has come.

 

 

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[Uttamattamakin]

 Awesome.  I'd wonder about the long term thermal endurance of the computer.   Comparing this to my 2017 surface pro which is also fanless isn't totally fair.  BUT. 

It is really fast when it first comes on then TROTTLES hard with sustained use.  That is unless it is in a really cool room, or in my car with the AC blowing on it, or placed on a really conductive surface.  

 

Spoiler

Eventually you put a fan on it.  That is the thing about a fanless computer.  Silence is great but thermal endurance is really a killer. 

 

[Radium_Angel]

Some years ago there was a computer case (mATX I think) where the entire case functioned as the heatsink. I don't recall it making much of a splash in the tech circles, so it may not have lived up to the promises...

[bsattin1]

@Radium_AngelAre you talking about the Streacom DB4? I definitely wanted to build in that but never got around to it.

 

A question I have is with the liquid metal. I thought it was generally frowned upon to use liquid metal in a vertical configuration. Having never used it myself, I've never had to worry about that, but anyone who has, have you had any issues with the liquid metal "running" in a vertical configuration?

[Radium_Angel]

Just now, bsattin1 said:

Streacom DB4

That was the beast, thank you for remembering the name of it.

[MultiGamerClub]

I want a fanless pc now.

[relaxation]

Tomshardware listed what the prices of the case might be, over 900 american dollars.

 

I'd be interested in another piece of content that uses this case, plus mixing a whole bunch of PSUs and GPUs together to suss out coilwhine on various gpu loads like 60fps, 120fps, and uncapped fps.

 

Would this case be good for a DAW? Unsure how grounded the mobo is floating there. Wasn't there going to be a content piece on DAWs?

 

In my own system playing something with little gpu utilization like rocket league at high frame rates my speakers external amp picked up on some hum that turns to a buzz at highframe rates and sounds like knocks when I use an FPS limiter to 4fps. Ask someone like James who has a living room setup connected to an amp and subs if <various gpus under various fps loads> cause audio issues, lots of people on the nvidia side of the fence been complaining since fermi.

 

Author of this post has a fanmate 2 on a NF-A14 ULN spinning under 600rpm because ULN 800rpm isn't inaudible enough, on top of semipassive audio equipment so its fans never have to turn on.

[Sarra]

I have a suggestion for the LTT staff:

 

Use the thermal camera, set it up, and do a timelapse of the machine, with it off, then booting, running some loads (cinebench, fuzzy donut, etc.), and shutting it off again.

 

Doesn't have to be overly long, but I think it would look fascinating.

[MultiGamerClub]

Website says 400w cooling now.. Tempted to get one if their kickstarter goes well to cool my 3080 ti.

[N1vii]

Any has a link for that gpu block? Couldnt find it or anything named tr-30x0

[TchangFR]

The GPU spreader is made by EK for MonsterLabo, when ordering the case you will be asked wich GPU card you want to install and they will ship the correct spreader and mounting kit.

[Senzelian]

12 hours ago, relaxation said:

Tomshardware listed what the prices of the case might be, over 900 american dollars.

For that price you might aswell join the "Optical Thunderbolt 3 Cable Club" and simply move your PC out of the room.

OT3CC... I should trademark that... 

[tridy]

I am not an expert on tweaking or OC or anything related to that, so i have ordered The Beast with electronics from Monsterlabo. I waited a bit longer than i expected but now my fanless build with 3070 sounds amazing. From what i understand, there is a certain level of optimization involved there with undervolting of the GPU, where lowering the power sacrifices not that much of the performance but significantly reduces the heat and therefore the TDP of the heatsink is then sufficient. There are several YT videos on undervolting from both Monsterlabo and other authors. As an example, they have a video running Flight Simulator on the passively cooled 3080.

 

Let's see if Streacom will actually be able to deliver [GPU] 420W against the current 250W of The Beast, and quite important at what price. Meanwhile, Monsterlabo might come up with something innovative and new as well.

[tridy]

6 hours ago, Senzelian said:

... join the "Optical Thunderbolt 3 Cable Club" and simply move your PC out of the room.

I would need to buy a bigger apartment for that :) so I would have this [out of the room] place to move my PC to.

[Granular]

1 simple promise: no moving parts.

Linus by the end of the video: we ended up putting a fan in there.

[tkitch]

19 hours ago, Granular said:

1 simple promise: no moving parts.

Linus by the end of the video: we ended up putting a fan in there.

it does have 2 fan mounts at the top for 140's.  WHich increases the TDP of the heatsinks by 100+ Watts each.  

 

He literally used a feature that the case is meant to.  (He was also trying to push the edges of what the thing could do, to see what he could get out of it.)

[OTHMANE]

i would like to advice linus to not pot tools in that pocket 
 one day in the work shop i fall down with too in the same pocket and it penetrated my back was flesh wont but 
be carful  

[Granular]

On 9/15/2021 at 4:24 PM, tkitch said:

it does have 2 fan mounts at the top for 140's.  WHich increases the TDP of the heatsinks by 100+ Watts each.  

 

He literally used a feature that the case is meant to.  (He was also trying to push the edges of what the thing could do, to see what he could get out of it.)

I don't care what features the case has or whether what Linus does is in line with what the case manufacturer expects.

The title shouldn't promise no moving parts if there are going to be moving parts.

[tkitch]

9 minutes ago, Granular said:

I don't care what features the case has or whether what Linus does is in line with what the case manufacturer expects.

The title shouldn't promise no moving parts if there are going to be moving parts.

Did you miss where he DID get it running successfully with no moving parts?  They literally showed it running with no fans.

 

He just wanted better performance, so he added a fan. 

[Granular]

6 minutes ago, tkitch said:

Did you miss where he DID get it running successfully with no moving parts?  They literally showed it running with no fans.

 

He just wanted better performance, so he added a fan. 

You can get any computer running without fans ... until it overheats and trottles to hell like this did.

[beesftw]

On 9/9/2021 at 7:16 PM, Uttamattamakin said:

 Awesome.  I'd wonder about the long term thermal endurance of the computer.   Comparing this to my 2017 surface pro which is also fanless isn't totally fair.  BUT. 

It is really fast when it first comes on then TROTTLES hard with sustained use.  That is unless it is in a really cool room, or in my car with the AC blowing on it, or placed on a really conductive surface.  

 

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Eventually you put a fan on it.  That is the thing about a fanless computer.  Silence is great but thermal endurance is really a killer. 

 

had the same issue with my huawei tablet. ended up taking a heatgun (lcd readout adjustable with 1°c increments from 50 to 600, just needed 75 to weaken the glue) and a spudger to it to pry it open to replace the thermal paste (good thing i did, it was like cement and the pch had barely any on it...)

but still throttled. it was power limited at 60°c and above. found out this program called ThrottleStop lets you remove that, so i did, and ran cinebench: maximum 70°C and no throttling i dread to think what it would have been before my re-paste...

if you want to try the same, just open ThrottleStop, click FIVR, tick the box that says "Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits", hit apply, click TPL, click "Disable Power Limit Control", hit apply, and you're done! you MAY find your tablet now gets uncomfortable to the touch, or you might just realise how bad the aged thermal paste is now and want to replace it lol.

also you can make a custom power saving profile to double your battery life too with some tweaking (lower the clock modifier + forced power saver mode + undervolt in FIVR menu). btw, if you have the option for speed shift epp, you may want to use that instead of speedstep. epp is hardware-level, speedstep is software-level; 0 is prefer max clock, 255 is prefer low clock. ultrabookreview has a good guide for all the functions, but i found the above sufficed for my use