Should I get a Ryzen 5600x or i5 11400F for gaming?

[KyberKylo77]

Ill be pairing either of these processors with a 3080  down  the road and  ill be using them predominantly  for gaming  and  a little bit of photoshop. The i5 is $172 where  i live while  the  ryzen  is $326, so  its  almost  double the price.  Im not so sure  the slight fps  increase on  AMD  warrants  spending  that  much.  Are  there  any significant benefits  for going with the ryzen or  should i  just opt  for intel this time (what a weird time we live in)

 

Ill be  playing at 1440p for the most  part  and when i have  the money i might  consider  4k 

[GreatnessRD]

I'd say the 11400F if you're gaming at 1440p or above. 1080p, probably the 5600x. 

[KyberKylo77]

Just now, Abyssal Radon said:

AMD would be better because you can OC it, with the Intel one your locked. Otherwise I would suggest grabbing a 5600X honestly.

Why would you suggest getting the  5600x  btw? just curious.  All  benchmarks show  that the 5600x  only beats  the  11400f by 10fps give  or take  and thats  on 1080p  with a 3090 which basically  maxes  out  the cpu. And ill be playing at  1440p  so the performance  gap  shrinks even  further.  

[dean_5234]

2 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

The 5600X has 6 cores-12 threads, versus the 11400F only has 6 cores. In the long run, a 5600X would be better, pay more now and upgrade later. Pay less, upgrade sooner.

 

11400f has 6c12t too lol

[KyberKylo77]

Just now, davemc said:

11400f has 6c12t too lol

exactly lol, i was confused  for a second

[Somerandomtechyboi]

Tbh id go 11400f

 

Just yeet the shitty tdp limit by downloading throttlestop and in the tpl menu set the turbo long, short, and pp0 current to 99999 and all sliders to the right, clamp, lock, apply, power limits yeeted

 

Though make sure you are using a decent cooler and not the shitty stock cooler, id suggest freezer 34 or se 224 xt

 

If they arent that much more expensive then go for the 11500 or 11600 cpus instead for the higher boost clocks

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

Yea definitely the i5 in this case 

[KyberKylo77]

51 minutes ago, Somerandomtechyboi said:

Tbh id go 11400f

 

Just yeet the shitty tdp limit by downloading throttlestop and in the tpl menu set the turbo long, short, and pp0 current to 99999 and all sliders to the right, clamp, lock, apply, power limits yeeted

 

Though make sure you are using a decent cooler and not the shitty stock cooler, id suggest freezer 34 or se 224 xt

 

If they arent that much more expensive then go for the 11500 or 11600 cpus instead for the higher boost clocks

Lmao are you sure im not just gonna blow up my computer xD Jokes aside, i might give that a shot.

 

And yep, i was planning on getting the se 224 xt. Really good cooler for the price ngl.

[KyberKylo77]

18 minutes ago, Abyssal Radon said:

I stand corrected. But 5600X > 11400F.

I mean obviously yea but in terms of price to performance in gaming the 11400f definitely takes  the cake.

 

[dean_5234]

14 hours ago, Abyssal Radon said:

I stand corrected. But 5600X > 11400F.

The 5600X is a faster CPU, but for double the price the i5 is a wayyy better value as at stock speeds for both the i5 is very very close in performance. 

13 hours ago, KyberKylo77 said:

I mean obviously yea but in terms of price to performance in gaming the 11400f definitely takes  the cake.

 

Oh yeah for sure.

 

In the end, if I were you I'd buy the i5 to save up for the GPU. Also, if you get the non f version you can use the igpu to get your system up and running until you snag a 30 series.

[Gohardgrandpa]

For gaming get the i5. Honestly I have no clue how people can suggest you spend twice as much for barely any performance increase 

[freeagent]

I have a 5600X and man, its a great little CPU if you have an AM4 board already. I would build with Intel if I was just going to game with it. But.. the 5600X rips pretty hard until you need more cores. If you don't need cores she is a performer, and she sips power.

[xg32]

personally id get a 10700f in this situation, as for whether 5600x is worth it over the 11400, it's whether you wanna minmax, let's assume the 11400 is 5% slower than the 5600x, that same 5% is halfway btwn a 3080 and a 3090.

 

Quite a tough decision

[tierwelder]

Both the 11400F and 5600X are very solid processors and you won't be disappointed with either, the 5600X is a better processor, it's faster at productivity tasks, and reportedly more power efficient (don't quote me on this, i haven't checked up on their power consumption stats in a long time), faster like in Premiere Pro and DaVinci Resolve, and code compiling, and it's slightly faster in games, pretty marginal though.

However i don't think the difference is big enough to justify paying twice the price, for 172$ i'd definitely go Intel, that's a steal for the i5 11400F, in the end they're quite similarly performing, gaming benchmarks prove this further: i5-11400F vs. Ryzen 5 5600X | Test in 8 Games - YouTube

[tierwelder]

On 8/4/2021 at 7:54 AM, Abyssal Radon said:

The 5600X has 6 cores-12 threads, versus the 11400F only has 6 cores. In the long run, a 5600X would be better, pay more now and upgrade later. Pay less, upgrade sooner.

 

This is in addition to the fact that you can easily OC the 5600X, IMO get the 5600X nuff said lol.

"The 5600X has 6 cores-12 threads, versus the 11400F only has 6 cores."
you have to be trolling omg

[aGuyCalledFlex]

Someone who can afford a 3080 at current prices shouldn't be worried about the $154 price difference between the 11400F and a 5600X, as that difference is not even 10% of overall system cost, which is likely to be >$2,500 once the 3080 is factored in. They should just choose whichever cpu is 'better'. The right choice may depend on non-gaming performance or the comparative strengths of the two platforms. However, fps per dollar is the only consideration, then go for the 11400F. Also, on either platform, you might want to be sure to choose a mobo with good power management in case you wish to upgrade the cpu in the future. But if you already know you're going for a 3080, you really ought to be pairing it with at least an 8-core from the start. (The 5600X is close, as it performs more like a 7-core, if such a thing existed, but I digress..) 

[Mister Woof]

14 hours ago, aGuyCalledFlex said:

Someone who can afford a 3080 at current prices shouldn't be worried about the $154 price difference between the 11400F and a 5600X, as that difference is not even 10% of overall system cost, which is likely to be >$2,500 once the 3080 is factored in. They should just choose whichever cpu is 'better'. The right choice may depend on non-gaming performance or the comparative strengths of the two platforms. However, fps per dollar is the only consideration, then go for the 11400F. Also, on either platform, you might want to be sure to choose a mobo with good power management in case you wish to upgrade the cpu in the future. But if you already know you're going for a 3080, you really ought to be pairing it with at least an 8-core from the start. (The 5600X is close, as it performs more like a 7-core, if such a thing existed, but I digress..) 

Buying a 3080 and then buying a 6 core is like buying an expensive car and then cheap tires.

 

 

[Guest]

3080? 

 

Neither, get a 5800x with decent cooling, enable some PBO +200 all set. Nice set of B-Dies 3600mhz c16 or faster, tons of performance.

 

To compete, Intel i7 or i9 running 5ghz plus capable of well over 300w meter pulls to compete. 

 

My 6ghz 8700K can be bested by AMD pretty easily on air cooling with certain benchmarks. That's roughly a 1200mhz difference in IPC (single core PiMod).

[KyberKylo77]

On 8/8/2021 at 8:30 AM, aGuyCalledFlex said:

Someone who can afford a 3080 at current prices shouldn't be worried about the $154 price difference between the 11400F and a 5600X, as that difference is not even 10% of overall system cost, which is likely to be >$2,500 once the 3080 is factored in. They should just choose whichever cpu is 'better'. The right choice may depend on non-gaming performance or the comparative strengths of the two platforms. However, fps per dollar is the only consideration, then go for the 11400F. Also, on either platform, you might want to be sure to choose a mobo with good power management in case you wish to upgrade the cpu in the future. But if you already know you're going for a 3080, you really ought to be pairing it with at least an 8-core from the start. (The 5600X is close, as it performs more like a 7-core, if such a thing existed, but I digress..) 

I won't be upgrading anytime soon, Ill only upgrade once the prices go back to normal. 

[Mark Kaine]

On 8/8/2021 at 5:31 PM, ShrimpBrime said:

Neither, get a 5800x

Thats what Im thinking the whole time, finally someone said it, thanks lmao

[KyberKylo77]

On 8/8/2021 at 11:31 PM, ShrimpBrime said:

3080? 

 

Neither, get a 5800x with decent cooling, enable some PBO +200 all set. Nice set of B-Dies 3600mhz c16 or faster, tons of performance.

 

To compete, Intel i7 or i9 running 5ghz plus capable of well over 300w meter pulls to compete. 

 

My 6ghz 8700K can be bested by AMD pretty easily on air cooling with certain benchmarks. That's roughly a 1200mhz difference in IPC (single core PiMod).

Nah bro I'm on a budget, im not someone who's earning so a budget IS a budget, i can't go any higher. I do have 3600mhz ram though but they're cl 18.

[Kinda Bottlenecked]

33 minutes ago, KyberKylo77 said:

Nah bro I'm on a budget, im not someone who's earning so a budget IS a budget, i can't go any higher. I do have 3600mhz ram though but they're cl 18.

 

Its perfecly reasonable to prioritize gpu performance over cpu performance in a gaming build with a budget. 

[Guest]

6 hours ago, KyberKylo77 said:

Nah bro I'm on a budget, im not someone who's earning so a budget IS a budget, i can't go any higher. I do have 3600mhz ram though but they're cl 18.

So, let me get it straight then....

You can only budget in a 150$ cpu now....

But later you magically have 1000$ for a GPU?

 

I'm missing something here then. 

[KyberKylo77]

6 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

So, let me get it straight then....

You can only budget in a 150$ cpu now....

But later you magically have 1000$ for a GPU?

 

I'm missing something here then. 

I'm assuming you're just too rich to know how budgets work. I have enough money to get everything now including the cpu but I'll only be upgrading my gpu when prices go back to normal. If i were to buy a 5800x, I wouldn't have enough money to buy a 3080 down the road. And I'm prioritising my GPU because I plan to upgrade to a 4K monitor when I have the money.

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, KyberKylo77 said:

I'm assuming you're just too rich to know how budgets work. I have enough money to get everything now including the cpu but I'll only be upgrading my gpu when prices go back to normal. If i were to buy a 5800x, I wouldn't have enough money to buy a 3080 down the road. And I'm prioritising my GPU because I plan to upgrade to a 4K monitor when I have the money.

No, I have an income, 3 kids dog ect. Most all my purchases are budget related. 

 

I have 2060s and they run 4k with a 2700x

 

Won't be making a budget till DDR5 Which is coming soon. I couldn't buy into another DDR4 system at this time. Just doesn't make sense.