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PCI Express gen 4 has been around for over a year and a half now – But it hasn’t really made much of a difference… Does that change with Ryzen 5000, RTX 3000, and Radeon 6000?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, GabenJr said:

Big shout out to MSI for sponsoring this video! Check out all of their products we used down below.

 

PCI Express gen 4 has been around for over a year and a half now – But it hasn’t really made much of a difference… Does that change with Ryzen 5000, RTX 3000, and Radeon 6000?

 

 

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THE PEOPLE NEED MORE ANTHONY IN THEIR LIVES!  Ill probably watch this video later.

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I do wish more boards could aggregate PCIe 3.0x8 into a PCIe 4.0x4 so legacy chipsets could handle faster SSDs.

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1 hour ago, GabenJr said:

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He didn't even have to touch it.... wtf man... lol

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The reason that you get a higher FPS in CS:GO and other games is actually quite simple. In the history of computer graphics bandwidth has always been a limiter.

For every frame that the graphics card has to render the CPU will send the data for that frame (vertices, vectors, points, colors, textures, etc. ). So by increasing the bandwidth the upper limit of frames that the CPU can possibly send will increase.

A small example:

An average frame size of 1KB

PCIe bandwidth 10KB/s

This means that we can have a max FPS of 10, however if we can double the bandwidth the FPS will in turn be doubled.

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30 minutes ago, FluffyBucket said:

The reason that you get a higher FPS in CS:GO and other games is actually quite simple. In the history of computer graphics bandwidth has always been a limiter.

For every frame that the graphics card has to render the CPU will send the data for that frame (vertices, vectors, points, colors, textures, etc. ). So by increasing the bandwidth the upper limit of frames that the CPU can possibly send will increase.

A small example:

An average frame size of 1KB

PCIe bandwidth 10KB/s

This means that we can have a max FPS of 10, however if we can double the bandwidth the FPS will in turn be doubled.

But the other games were very modest (or none at all) increases, CS:GO showed a huge increase, all out of spec to what the other games showed. So the question is...why? I'm assuming it's because CS:GO is such a old game that there is still room for improvement, whereas modern games push the GFX cards to the limit already, but I do not know this is the root cause for certain.

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3 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

But the other games were very modest (or none at all) increases, CS:GO showed a huge increase, all out of spec to what the other games showed. So the question is...why? I'm assuming it's because CS:GO is such a old game that there is still room for improvement, whereas modern games push the GFX cards to the limit already, but I do not know this is the root cause for certain.

I think it is as you say. There could be multiple factors in play here. The rendering techniques for modern games has changed throughout the years.

They could be better optimized so that to render a new frame the CPU does not have to send as much data, i.e. there is a cache on the GPU, this makes it not as bound to the bandwidth. It can also be that the calculations that is done to render a frame has increased (raytracing, AA, etc.). I do not know that the O notation is for the algorithm but it is most likely not linear. So a newer game that has double the amount of polygons for their models might be exponentially more difficult to render.

 

I would have to spend a bit more time researching, but that is just what comes to mind on top of my head.

 

 

 

 

 

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11 hours ago, PhoenixFire22588 said:

He didn't even have to touch it.... wtf man... lol

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Well, if PCIe Gen 4 is pointless, why would nVidia jump in the band wagon, and why would Intel announce they are going PCIe Gen5?

 

Actually, rather than talking about bandwidth, the main point is that it reduce latency somewhat.

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1 hour ago, PhoenixFire22588 said:

His face is pure defeat though. R.I.P. 

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3.0 x16 vs 4.0 x8 could be interesting to see if standard itself makes a difference. With a single GPU and x8 "forced" by secondary/tertiary M.2 slot used by a NVMe SSD those boards often support.

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