AMD radeon drivers f**king suck

[lafrente]

 

4 hours ago, SavageNeo said:

I have 5700XT and never had any major problems. My friends do not have any problems too. It seem like AMD is having more driver problems (if the rtx 3000 series does not count, they were bad).

 

My fan curve saves everytime expect when the system crashes or something. then the radeon software resets. I really like AMD radeon software mroe than Nvidia shadowplay. It is more simple.

no it wont tear and wear anything..

......

 

That is completely normal. Everything under 90C is completely fine.

 

There's no specific temperature that just sets the bar and that under that temp its fine and over that it isn't. If the fans aren't loud, its much better to keep it operating at 60c rather than 75c. The lower the temperature it operates at, the longer life it will have. Possibly some other benefits as well.

 

Yours reset probably because they half ass coded in some safety measure. Which is when you OC the card and your PC crashes, it defaults so that the card doesn't crash at boot again. But there are two issues even the dumbest amd employee could see. Electricity going off isn't a crash, and the fan curves have nothing to do with OC and will not cause a card not to start. Even if it's at zero at all times, it'll boot and actually be just fine till you game. So they are not helping anything by resetting them after what they think is a crash. But they so half assed it, they set it to reset the curve as well. They cant seem to *think* this simple fact and fail to use the jelly in their skull.

 

Amd software doesn't have a terrible design, if we got rid of all their bugs (which are easy to fix if they cared) and forcing down peoples throats streaming/recording I cant imagine a serious streamer using an amd software out of all things to stream. You can't even trust that thing. You'll test it 10 times, then you'll get a great recording and it'll crash. Lol.

 

3 hours ago, Moonzy said:

Clocks? Yes, it's fine to ramp freq up and down from my understanding

 

Temp? Jumping 10c every few second is very excessive thermal cycling and that CAN lead to issues. But as I've said, not sure if the entire die is truly thermal cycling like that, or they're just taking reading from different sensors and causing weird spikes like that

Because I have a wattmeter and the readings don't really change much during the spikes (more heat means more power is sent thru, but that's not the case here) maybe my wattmeter isn't sensitive enough.

Yes clocks are fine, but temp goes up and down along with it as well as the fan and that's the issue. Unless the sensor is faulty, it's getting that temp reading from somewhere inside. Anything you heat cycle that many times, since they slightly expand and contract everytime, eventually start to become brittle, then break. Take a piece of thin metal and heat cycle it constantly like that, in few months it'll be brittle. They might have added this on their "planned obsolescence" but I'd rather they don't.

 

I really don't know how it works, the watt reading and cpu power demand, but it might be getting the extra juice from the motherboard. Sure psu will supply it again to mobo, but that maybe is a constant flow and that might be why it doesn't read. But yeah I dont know much about this.

 

 

[TetraSky]

14 hours ago, lafrente said:

And their f**king site has no download button, despite page talking all about it.  https://www.amd.com/en/support/graphics/radeon-500-series/radeon-rx-500-series/radeon-rx-590

 

I know they made it a bit less obvious compared to before, but you only need to click on one of these links to get the download button to appear.

[lafrente]

1 minute ago, TetraSky said:

 

I know they made it a bit less obvious compared to before, but you only need to click on one of these links to get the download button to appear.

And that was a button? That's just... text? I had howered the mouse on it but thought it was a text since nothing happened. The most unintuitive "button" ever created, without even any sign of being a clickable. Thanks.

 

But holy shit, this is even worse than a website error. At least face the arrows downward so that we can see its expandable, or make the cursor change into a hand or something. The text at the bottom clearly implies a supposed download button, a relic from old version where they had all downloads laid down. Do they expect us to keep clicking on texts on a webpage without any indication.. Omg they are stupid. Everyone from website developers to software developers to firmware developers. Basically top to bottom stupid. Bravo.

[TetraSky]

2 minutes ago, lafrente said:

And that was a button? That's just... text? I had howered the mouse on it but thought it was a text since nothing happened. The most unintuitive "button" ever created, without even any sign of being a clickable. Thanks.

 

But holy shit, this is even worse than a website error. At least face the arrows downward so that we can see its expandable, or make the cursor change into a hand or something. The text at the bottom clearly implies a supposed download button, a relic from old version where they had all downloads laid down. Do they expect us to keep clicking on texts on a webpage without any indication.. Omg they are stupid. Everyone from website developers to software developers to firmware developers. Basically top to bottom stupid. Bravo.

 

[lafrente]

1 minute ago, TetraSky said:

 

 

On a second note, I think they may have changed the site and it was probably not even clickable yesterday. If you see my quote, they removed "Previous Drivers" link. Maybe just added the new links. I possibly may have clicked even those texts and got nothing yesterday. 

 

This is my quote from yesterday:

*By clicking the "Download" button, you are confirming that you have read and agree to be bound by the End User License Agreement. Your download will begin immediately after clicking on the "Download" button. If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, you do not have a license or permission to use and/or download the software.

Previous Drivers

 

This is what it says today:

*By clicking the "Download" button, you are confirming that you have read and agree to be bound by the End User License Agreement. Your download will begin immediately after clicking on the "Download" button. If you do not agree to these terms and conditions, you do not have a license or permission to use and/or download the software.

 

And peoples posts in the thread, none have the little black arrows in the images. They probably been to the site not too long ago and their cookies was not refreshed. But ultimately, dumdum amd whichever way we choose. Lol

[Moonzy]

43 minutes ago, lafrente said:

Take a piece of thin metal and heat cycle it constantly like that, in few months it'll be brittle.

tis a bad analogy since it fails in different ways, but yes a chip that uses flip chip design can have issues under heat cycles

 

44 minutes ago, lafrente said:

I really don't know how it works, the watt reading and cpu power demand, but it might be getting the extra juice from the motherboard. Sure psu will supply it again to mobo, but that maybe is a constant flow and that might be why it doesn't read. But yeah I dont know much about this.

it's pretty much instantaneous for computer hardware, the capacitors dont store that much energy to be able to achieve what you mentioned.

my wattmeter may just be too slow to catch the power spikes

[TetraSky]

21 minutes ago, lafrente said:

If you see my quote, they removed "Previous Drivers" link. Maybe just added the new links

If you see my picture, you see that "previous drivers" link is still there for me. Along with everything else.

Maybe you just missed it and don't remember?

[Nena Trinity]

1 hour ago, TetraSky said:

 

I know they made it a bit less obvious compared to before, but you only need to click on one of these links to get the download button to appear.

That is what I pressed... UwU

[Vishera]

After 9 years of using AMD GPUs,I have switched to NVIDIA,precisely because of the constant and repetitive experience ruining bugs.

Those bugs first appeared with Radeon Relive ,the replacement of Catalyst Control Center.

 

In all honesty,AMD is doing the exact same mistakes that Microsoft does - focusing on pretty and lackluster UI rather than on stability.

 

Catalyst Control Center was significantly better when it comes to stability,ease of use and simple,feature rich UI.

 

AMDs incompetence:

Spoiler

 

  

15 hours ago, lafrente said:

 

14 hours ago, lafrente said:

OH and btw, their dumb radeon software forgets fan curves at random as well. So you realize why I am so fed up with this.

 

13 hours ago, lafrente said:

Ofc, despite checking "Keep my settings" during install, it deleted it all.

 

On 9/29/2020 at 7:28 AM, Vishera said:

Well,The driver team of AMD is a disorganized mess that acts on a whim,we see and feel that with their driver releases.

 

On 7/17/2020 at 10:43 AM, Vishera said:

 

On 7/17/2020 at 10:43 AM, e22big said:

The reported issue have been fixed, a lot of tech TY channels had confirmed this. Nothing prevent them from introducing further issue in the future though, I would stay away from AMD if you want a smooth sailing experience. 

Nope,they are back,and AMD are clueless on how to solve it:

https://www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-gpu-bug-reporting-tool/

 

From AMDs forums:

https://community.amd.com/thread/255159

https://community.amd.com/thread/255028

https://community.amd.com/thread/254840

 

Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/h8j45d/rx5700xt_blackgreen_screen_fix/

 

Recently on the forums:

 

AMDs statement from Adrenalin 20.7.2 Hotfix notes:

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AMD will continue to monitor and investigate any new reports of black screen or system hang issues during extended periods of gameplay closely. Users are encouraged to use the new Bug Reporting Tool for any issues they may encounter.

 

  

On 11/29/2016 at 4:12 AM, Matthewv1998 said:

So for the past few months i've had nothing but problems with my r9 380 black screening. It has gotten to the point where i litterally CANT put any stress on the gpu or else my system hard locks

here are my specs 

Cpu: AMD athlon 860k

mobo: Gigabyte f2-a88xm d3h 

psu: evga 600b

ram: 4x2gb of 1866 hyperx ram 

gpu: XFX R9 380 XXX OC

i've tried every damn thing that i know, put the gpu in a new system, black screen, swapped ram, black screen, revered to catylist and crimson drivers, black screen, RMA'D THE DAMM CARD!, black screen, blew the system out, black screen, cleaned the gpu contacts, black screen, used a SFX 450w GOLD to power the gpu, black screen, underclocked the card and gave it more power with AB, black screen. 

 

Please i need help! I have 0 money for a new card and i'm sick and tired with my problems. It was fine a good 5 months i had it and now it's been nothing but problems, its been like a roller coaster, it will be fine for a few days or hours then BAM black screen, in any game, any benchmark, ANYTHING AND IT BLACK SCREENS!!! Ive actually GONE TO XFX's HEADQUARTERS AND THEY SAID NO DAMN FAULT FOUND!!! So what the hell is going on?!?!?!? I need help please!!!

 

Article from July 2016: https://www.pcinvasion.com/r9-380-black-screen-issues-amds-persistent-unsolved-bug/

 

 

 

 

 

[Mark Kaine]

1 hour ago, Vishera said:

Catalyst Control Center was significantly better when it comes to stability,ease of use and simple,feature rich UI.

Back when it was ATi, this shit was the shit... best UI / driver ever! (imo) 

 

2 hours ago, LazyLand said:

I had both Nividia and AMD and personally both have problems. Apart from the 5000 series serious driver issues Nividia has problems just like AMD does 

Well I do respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it at all as it doesn't align with my experience at all, the AMD Radeon Relive [whatever they call it now] software is a mess, overloaded with "features" that mostly not work, seems highly unstable overall, and while Nvidia has issues too, they're usually really minor in comparison and more importantly much less frequent. 

 

 

[Vishera]

5 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Well I do respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it at all as it doesn't align with my experience at all, the AMD Radeon Relive [whatever they call it now] software is a mess, overloaded with "features" that mostly not work, seems highly unstable overall, and while Nvidia has issues too, they're usually really minor in comparison and more importantly much less frequent. 

As matter of fact,Adrenaline 2020 edition is worse than Relive,Crimson and older versions of Adrenaline,it's buggy and bloated just like Windows 10.

[LogicalDrm]

-> Moved to Graphics Cards

[Letgomyleghoe]

8 hours ago, Moonzy said:

Temp? Jumping 10c every few second is very excessive thermal cycling and that CAN lead to issues. But as I've said, not sure if the entire die is truly thermal cycling like that, or they're just taking reading from different sensors and causing weird spikes like that

it's incorrect reading if I remember right, something to do with the expectation of heat with the boost in clocks. 

I've never seen my 3600 spike for some reason.

[LazyLand]

3 hours ago, Mark Kaine said:

Back when it was ATi, this shit was the shit... best UI / driver ever! (imo) 

 

Well I do respect your opinion, but I don't agree with it at all as it doesn't align with my experience at all, the AMD Radeon Relive [whatever they call it now] software is a mess, overloaded with "features" that mostly not work, seems highly unstable overall, and while Nvidia has issues too, they're usually really minor in comparison and more importantly much less frequent. 

 

 

idk, I had an rx 470 then 570 for about 4 years, I do remember that I was a little struggling to install drivers but to be fair I was like 11 

The Nvidia control panel is annoying as hell for me, every change I do gets the panel stuck for a few seconds and it's really dumb, besides - I also have constant black screens in many game. After some investigation it turns out gsync causes that, and yeah I fixed it but still I don't give a real advantage to either one of them 

[Vishera]

2 hours ago, Caroline said:

10 hours ago, linuxChips2600 said:

Psst, use a Linux distro if you can

  

[linuxChips2600]

26 minutes ago, Vishera said:

  

One word: Proton

[linuxChips2600]

3 minutes ago, Caroline said:

 

36 minutes ago, linuxChips2600 said:

One word: Proton

You need a $team account in order to use it.

I ran Shadow of the Tomb Raider Trial Version for Windows via Proton just fine on my free steam account before I actually paid for anything; fps unfortunately was a bit on the low side...

Also here's a game that's free to play which also runs via Proton on Linux:

Same game's ProtonDB rating:
https://www.protondb.com/app/1286830

[i luv undertale]

Really i hate AMD...