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How to build a PC without getting RIPPED OFF! Holiday 2020 Buyers Guide

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2020 has been.... Interesting, to say the least. But our buyers guide shall persevere and bring to you our best builds at different price points. Will anything be in stock? Will you get great deals? One can only hope.

 

Buy AMD Athlon 3000G
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/3hjrw8L
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/4BfNYCB

 

Buy DDR4-3000 RAM
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/pK8TsH
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/gMTL

 

Buy ASUS PRIME B450M-A/CSM
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/v6gR
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/TaP3

 

Buy Thermaltake Smart 500w PSU
On B&H(PAID LINK): https://geni.us/dDqpSOf
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/HMGP4eB

 

Buy Rosewill FBM-X2 Case
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/dgFbGR
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/pJsZ

 

Buy Seagate FireCuda 1TB
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/n7Es
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/MwB5E8

 

Buy Intel Core i3-10100F CPU
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/RsDFk
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/WCG8Ay

 

Buy ASRock B460M-HDV
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/P9iLp
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/5tDZx

 

Buy Patriot Burst 960GB SSD
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/kdmT
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/Bpn3

 

Buy Intel Core i5-9600K CPU
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/nIlomv
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/qATC

 

Buy MSI Z390-A PRO
On Best Buy (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/5jkB7oE
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/BAgFeX

 

Buy Seasonic S12III 650w PSU
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/XB7u1jT
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/Uft6

 

Buy Noctua NH-U12S CPU Cooler
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/xuqOx6
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/Sr0d

 

Buy Phanteks Eclipse P300A Case
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/vlvN
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/m50ym6

 

Buy Samsung 970 EVO NVMe SSD 1TB
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/SiQY
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/sJGfsMq

 

Buy AMD Ryzen 7 3700X CPU
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/gAmp
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/p5zn

 

Buy G.SKILL Trident Z Neo 32GB
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/JBIEm54
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/o3cqwe

 

Buy ASUS TUF Gaming X570-PRO
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/sEutwA
On Newegg (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/qvidHua

 

Buy Seasonic FOCUS GX-850 PSU
On Amazon (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/TjtCJ7o
On B&H (PAID LINK): https://geni.us/xcjM
 

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With all of Intel's price slashing, I'm a little surprised you would be a 3700x over the 10700k or even the 10850k. Many Z490 boards are also PCIe 4 compatible so Rocket Lake should be a slot in competitive upgrade. Also don't really think PCIe 4 SSD's are even remotely worth the insane premium for the 2k build.

Main Gaming PC - i9 10850k @ 5GHz - EVGA XC Ultra 2080ti with Heatkiller 4 - Asrock Z490 Taichi - Corsair H115i - 32GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3600 CL16 OC'd to 3733 - HX850i - Samsung NVME 256GB SSD - Samsung 3.2TB PCIe 8x Enterprise NVMe - Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM HD - Lian Li Air

 

Proxmox Server - i7 8700k @ 4.5Ghz - 32GB EVGA 3000 CL15 OC'd to 3200 - Asus Strix Z370-E Gaming - Oracle F80 800GB Enterprise SSD, LSI SAS running 3 4TB and 2 6TB (Both Raid Z0), Samsung 840Pro 120GB - Phanteks Enthoo Pro

 

Super Server - i9 7980Xe @ 4.5GHz - 64GB 3200MHz Cl16 - Asrock X299 Professional - Nvidia Telsa K20 -Sandisk 512GB Enterprise SATA SSD, 128GB Seagate SATA SSD, 1.5TB WD Green (Over 9 years of power on time) - Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2

 

Laptop - 2019 Macbook Pro 16" - i7 - 16GB - 512GB - 5500M 8GB - Thermal Pads and Graphite Tape modded

 

Smart Phones - iPhone X - 64GB, AT&T, iOS 13.3 iPhone 6 : 16gb, AT&T, iOS 12 iPhone 4 : 16gb, AT&T Go Phone, iOS 7.1.1 Jailbroken. iPhone 3G : 8gb, AT&T Go Phone, iOS 4.2.1 Jailbroken.

 

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that smart power supply isn't good. a CX/ S12III unit would have been better

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow.
GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

PSU Tier List      Motherboard Tier List     SSD Tier List     How to get PC parts cheap    HP probook 445R G6 review

 

"Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid."

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44 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

Also don't really think PCIe 4 SSD's are even remotely worth the insane premium for the 2k build.

 

Spending $360 on a SSD and leaving $500-600 on a graphics card doesn't seem like a great idea. Would be better go get a cheaper SSD and put the money towards a better gpu down the line.

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Just now, Emily123 said:

 

Spending $360 on a SSD and leaving $500-600 on a graphics card doesn't seem like a great idea. Would be better go get a cheaper SSD and put the money towards a better gpu down the line.

You can even get enterprise level SSD's in the 3+TB range for around this price. I'd rather have the storage than the very little speed improvement.

Main Gaming PC - i9 10850k @ 5GHz - EVGA XC Ultra 2080ti with Heatkiller 4 - Asrock Z490 Taichi - Corsair H115i - 32GB GSkill Ripjaws V 3600 CL16 OC'd to 3733 - HX850i - Samsung NVME 256GB SSD - Samsung 3.2TB PCIe 8x Enterprise NVMe - Toshiba 3TB 7200RPM HD - Lian Li Air

 

Proxmox Server - i7 8700k @ 4.5Ghz - 32GB EVGA 3000 CL15 OC'd to 3200 - Asus Strix Z370-E Gaming - Oracle F80 800GB Enterprise SSD, LSI SAS running 3 4TB and 2 6TB (Both Raid Z0), Samsung 840Pro 120GB - Phanteks Enthoo Pro

 

Super Server - i9 7980Xe @ 4.5GHz - 64GB 3200MHz Cl16 - Asrock X299 Professional - Nvidia Telsa K20 -Sandisk 512GB Enterprise SATA SSD, 128GB Seagate SATA SSD, 1.5TB WD Green (Over 9 years of power on time) - Phanteks Enthoo Pro 2

 

Laptop - 2019 Macbook Pro 16" - i7 - 16GB - 512GB - 5500M 8GB - Thermal Pads and Graphite Tape modded

 

Smart Phones - iPhone X - 64GB, AT&T, iOS 13.3 iPhone 6 : 16gb, AT&T, iOS 12 iPhone 4 : 16gb, AT&T Go Phone, iOS 7.1.1 Jailbroken. iPhone 3G : 8gb, AT&T Go Phone, iOS 4.2.1 Jailbroken.

 

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5 minutes ago, Hunter259 said:

You can even get enterprise level SSD's in the 3+TB range for around this price. I'd rather have the storage than the very little speed improvement.

 

I'd get the 2TB 970 EVO Plus for $250 https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-plus-2tb/p/N82E16820147744 and put the extra ~$100 towards a gpu if I wanted a decent 2TB SSD. Or two 1TB for $129.99 each https://www.newegg.com/samsung-970-evo-1tb/p/N82E16820147691

 

Could also get a 1TB and have $200 extra for a Graphics Card or even go 1TB 970 EVO and 64GB ram then create a ram disk to load most frequently used game files on for even better performance and you'd still have an extra $100 left over

 

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44 minutes ago, Emily123 said:

 

Spending $360 on a SSD and leaving $500-600 on a graphics card doesn't seem like a great idea. Would be better go get a cheaper SSD and put the money towards a better gpu down the line.

I'm not sure if any PCIe SSDs are even worth the price at all. You can get larger SATA SSDs far cheaper. And to mention that older/lower end desktops don't have M.2 slots at.

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17 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

I'm not sure if any PCIe SSDs are even worth the price at all. You can get larger SATA SSDs far cheaper. And to mention that older/lower end desktops don't have M.2 slots at.

almost every board now has m.2

and quality sata drives are like 190-220$ vs 250$ for the extra speed. its worth it

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow.
GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

PSU Tier List      Motherboard Tier List     SSD Tier List     How to get PC parts cheap    HP probook 445R G6 review

 

"Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid."

Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs

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5 minutes ago, GDRRiley said:

almost every board now has m.2

and quality sata drives are like 190-220$ vs 250$ for the extra speed. its worth it

Quality SATA Drives have more Storage then PCIe ones at a lower prices. The vast Majority of Users will not notice the extra speed anyway.

 

I also like to upgrade my Storage without taking the Computer apart.

 

On another note, I don't see that many reasons to build a new system using a 2c/4t CPU. The minimum number of Cores should be four.

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2 minutes ago, whm1974 said:

Quality SATA Drives have more Storage then PCIe ones at a lower prices. The vast Majority of Users will not notice the extra speed anyway.

 

I also like to upgrade my Storage without taking the Computer apart.

860evo 2tb is 200$ 970 evo plus is 250$. 1tb drives are about 100 vs 125$. its a 25% markup usually. if its for over a 1k build get the nicer drive as games can use it

my top m.2 is easy to get at

Good luck, Have fun, Build PC, and have a last gen console for use once a year. I should answer most of the time between 9 to 3 PST

NightHawk 3.0: R7 5700x @, B550A vision D, H105, 2x32gb Oloy 3600, Sapphire RX 6700XT  Nitro+, Corsair RM750X, 500 gb 850 evo, 2tb rocket and 5tb Toshiba x300, 2x 6TB WD Black W10 all in a 750D airflow.
GF PC: (nighthawk 2.0): R7 2700x, B450m vision D, 4x8gb Geli 2933, Strix GTX970, CX650M RGB, Obsidian 350D

Skunkworks: R5 3500U, 16gb, 500gb Adata XPG 6000 lite, Vega 8. HP probook G455R G6 Ubuntu 20. LTS

Condor (MC server): 6600K, z170m plus, 16gb corsair vengeance LPX, samsung 750 evo, EVGA BR 450.

Spirt  (NAS) ASUS Z9PR-D12, 2x E5 2620V2, 8x4gb, 24 3tb HDD. F80 800gb cache, trueNAS, 2x12disk raid Z3 stripped

PSU Tier List      Motherboard Tier List     SSD Tier List     How to get PC parts cheap    HP probook 445R G6 review

 

"Stupidity is like trying to find a limit of a constant. You are never truly smart in something, just less stupid."

Camera Gear: X-S10, 16-80 F4, 60D, 24-105 F4, 50mm F1.4, Helios44-m, 2 Cos-11D lavs

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Ah yes, S12III in a 1k build. How sensible /s

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But everything is out of stock because everyone is buying it, so this idea that no one can buy those parts is.. weird logic.

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Might as well go used for a GPU atm. 1080Ti is going for around 300-350 and is still a capable 1440p card on pretty much everything bar Cyberpunk. 

Dirty Windows Peasants :P ?

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Long story short: Just don't buy a PC this holiday.

I'm still surprised, but not really surprised that the ryzen 3 3100 rised in price, like it seems that we're slowly running out of 3000 series. Glad I got my 3100 at MSRP.

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How to get a PC this holiday ... I feel one will have to go pre-built. 

 

This year for buying a gaming pc feels worse than the year where DRAM was in shortage and worse than the year where GPU mining was eating up all the GPU stock. 

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At 3:08 of the video...better luck next time picking that one up!!! 

 

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CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X ||  CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 Air Cooler ||  RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4-3600 CL18  ||  Mobo: ASUS ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero X570  ||  SSD: Samsung 970 EVO 1TB M.2-2280 Boot Drive/Some Games)  ||  HDD: 2X Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB(Game Drive)  ||  GPU: ASUS TUF Gaming RX 6900XT  ||  PSU: EVGA P2 1600W  ||  Case: Corsair 5000D Airflow  ||  Mouse: Logitech G502 Hero SE RGB  ||  Keyboard: Logitech G513 Carbon RGB with GX Blue Clicky Switches  ||  Mouse Pad: MAINGEAR ASSIST XL ||  Monitor: ASUS TUF Gaming VG34VQL1B 34" 

 

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I've actually been having a blast building in this strange time

 

My only comment regarding the video is regarding the $1000 build. I cannot recommend dropping $250~ on a used GTX 1070, or over $200 in general on last gen hardware (with some caveats). As Linus said, GTX 1070-1080's will depreciate an easy $100 when supply returns to normal, and that's just a bullet I'd refuse to bite. IMO, if you must build now and can't find a new GPU at retail, then you should look closely at the sub-$100 range for used video cards. This would put you around GTX 970/1050 Ti or RX 280/380 territory, which are cards that have already seen the vast majority of their depreciation behind them. These are excellent "value" 1080P performers in the second hand market and from my experience of constantly trading/flipping hardware, I'd expect these GPUs to depreciate a poultry $25, at worst, once supply levels out.

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How to build a PC in November/December 2020 without getting ripped off:

Don't :)

Thanks for watching.

 

But now, fellow gamers, that was it for me. Please keep in mind, that this is just my personal opionion and I am no expert. Your system shall be cooled forever, see you next time.

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24 minutes ago, Grand Admiral Thrawn said:

I think it is high time for 2020 to end. Heard 'Holiday Virus Guide' at 0:44...

I mean that wouldn't be wrong either.

My Build (5800X3D, RTX 3070)

 

disclaimer: i probably don't know what I'm talking about but I try to give the best advice I can

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