Have I been scammed?

[redcan0]

Hey everyone, Recently I built a pc but I feel like I got scammed in terms of the money and spent and what I got. I don’t live in the United States I live in Turkey So I don’t know if you guys could determine if I was scammed or not due to the prices being different but here is what I built. Thoughts?

 

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.60GHz

Kingston 16 GB DDR4 3200MHz x1

Corsair 960GB MP510 NVMe

Thermaltake V200

Thermaltake TR2 S 600W 80+

Gigabyte B450M H

ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 Super Advanced Edition.

 

Total=1700 USD

[Radium_Angel]

3 minutes ago, redcan0 said:

Turkey

Are you on the Euro, or still your own currency?

[Pixel5]

well its certainly on the higher side but given that its Turkey and do i understand that right you did buy this completely build so cost of assembly is included?

[Dedayog]

Are you using the word scammed when you mean import taxes, availability, and economy?

 

If those are the prices in Turkey, it is what it is.

 

Maybe you should have asked this BEFORE you bought?

[redcan0]

Just now, Radium_Angel said:

Are you on the Euro, or still your own currency?

Its Turkish Lira converted to usd I don’t know if its accurate to do a comparison like this though

[Pixel5]

Just now, Radium_Angel said:

Are you on the Euro, or still your own currency?

turkey has the Turkish Lira, its a pretty worthless currency since Erdogan tanked the economy so thats probably part of the problem.

[redcan0]

1 minute ago, Pixel5 said:

well its certainly on the higher side but given that its Turkey and do i understand that right you did buy this completely build so cost of assembly is included?

Cost of assembly is included

[Oshino Shinobu]

Unsure of how the prices are in Turkey, but it doesn't seem unreasonable. 

 

Just now, redcan0 said:

Its Turkish Lira converted to usd I don’t know if its accurate to do a comparison like this though

It will generally be more expensive if you compare it that way. Some as if you convert a build in GBP to USD, it's more expensive. 

[redcan0]

3 minutes ago, Dedayog said:

Are you using the word scammed when you mean import taxes, availability, and economy?

 

If those are the prices in Turkey, it is what it is.

 

Maybe you should have asked this BEFORE you bought?

I use the word scammed because I don’t think this pc is worth 1700$ at all but I think its a bit difficult for you to judge this due to the currency and price difference right?

[Eigenvektor]

1 minute ago, redcan0 said:

I use the word scammed because I don’t think this pc is worth 1700$ at all but I think its a bit difficult for you to judge this due to the currency and price difference right?

Yes. I would only call it a scam if you paid (a lot) more than what is typical for such a system in Turkey. Which makes it difficult for people outside of Turkey to judge.

[redcan0]

Just now, Eigenvektor said:

Yes. I would only call it a scam if you paid (a lot more) than what is typical for such a system in Turkey. Which makes it difficult for people outside of Turkey to judge.

Yeah I should have asked this question to a Turkish forum. Anyway, Thanks. 

[Guest]

1700USD seems fine. The ASUS 2080 Super is a $800 GPU and if you add the rest of the system together you end up close enough to 1700USD that it can easily be explained with corona and weak turkish currency

[Radium_Angel]

9 minutes ago, redcan0 said:

Its Turkish Lira converted to usd I don’t know if its accurate to do a comparison like this though

Doing a quick PCPartpicker build the price seems in line, the RTX 2080 vid card eats up the lion's share of that money.

[Eigenvektor]

2 minutes ago, redcan0 said:

Yeah I should have asked this question to a Turkish forum. Anyway, Thanks. 

What you can try to do is use PC Part Picker:

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	₺1696.78 @ Newegg Turkey
Motherboard	Gigabyte B450M H Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory	Kingston HyperX Fury 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory
Storage	Corsair MP510 960 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card	Asus GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card
Case	Thermaltake V200 ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply	Thermaltake TR2 S 550 W 80+ Certified ATX Power Supply
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	₺1696.78
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-08-04 21:47 +03+0300

 

This will give you a rough idea what the parts are worth in Turkey. It doesn't include assembly of course and I couldn't find all the parts (and some parts like CPU cooler you didn't mention). But it should give you a starting point.

[homeap5]

Everyone expect that shops start selling parts with 0.01% profit. Well, that is not how capitalism works. 1700$ is fair price unless you want to change your pc every month. Or you may start crying because you find the same parts for 5 dollars less.

 

I bought ram for twice that is worth now but I don't think it was a scam. It's something normal.

[Levent]

Turk here. No. You just got fucked by the government and shitty taxation policies. 

Edited August 4, 2020 by Levent
I missed a word

[gloop]

25 minutes ago, redcan0 said:

Thermaltake TR2 S 600W 80+

A $40 PSU powering a $180 CPU and a $850 GPU? Did you want to buy a bomb?

[redcan0]

1 minute ago, gloop said:

A $40 PSU powering a $180 CPU and a $850 GPU? Did you want to buy a bomb?

This was the reason why I called it a scam also look at the motherboard I could have probably fixed all of those issues with the same amount of money if I was more careful.

[Haro]

is this a pre built? because i don't see anyone using a smart series psu with such hardware. 

10 hours ago, redcan0 said:

I got scammed

not sure how prices are in turkey, but i assume they're higher compared to the US for example,  @Eigenvektor  made a list, and it's not far of in terms of price so i would say no, but again that psu is really bad. 

[Levent]

1 minute ago, gloop said:

A $40 PSU powering a $180 CPU and a $850 GPU? Did you want to buy a bomb?

Just an FYI. Somewhat good and medium tier PSUs are overpriced over here. Both due to lack of sales and exchange rates. I believe I know which company OP sourced his computer from and they got like 4 PSU choices and 3 of them are shit and one of them just adds another $150 to the their build.

[Eigenvektor]

Just now, TofuHaroto said:

is this a pre built? because i don't see anyone using a smart series psu with such hardware. 

not sure how prices are in turkey, but i assume they're higher compared to the US for example,  @Eigenvektor  made a list, and it's not far of in terms of price so i would say no, but again that psu is really bad. 

Don't be fooled by the price, it's in Lira while redcan0 translated the price to USD. PCP seems to only have a price for the CPU, it's coincidence that the value for that in Lira is so similar to the $1700.

[Mateyyy]

1 hour ago, redcan0 said:

Kingston 16 GB DDR4 3200MHz x1
Thermaltake TR2 S 600W 80+
Gigabyte B450M H

These three things are bad. I honestly would've rather gotten for the same price a 2070 Super but with a better PSU, motherboard and memory, as in the motherboard (which can either be a DS3H or S2H) will allow for basically no upgradability for the CPU from a 3600, the RAM's single-channel and the PSU, if the original TR2 is anything to go by, is a dumpster fire.

Regarding pricing, or how marked up it is, I can't comment on that since I'm not familiar with hardware prices in Turkey.

[redcan0]

45 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:

These three things are bad. I honestly would've rather gotten for the same price a 2070 Super but with a better PSU, motherboard and memory, as in the motherboard (which can either be a DS3H or S2H) will allow for basically no upgradability for the CPU from a 3600, the RAM's single-channel and the PSU, if the original TR2 is anything to go by, is a dumpster fire.

Regarding pricing, or how marked up it is, I can't comment on that since I'm not familiar with hardware prices in Turkey.

What I planning to do is sell The B450 H and buy a second hand B450 Tomahawk Max by adding 50$. Also if I sell the ram I can get the same ram but dual channel for 14$ more. I had no plans on replacing the psu since it created no issues its just a bit loud but since everyone hated it so much here I am going to change that as well. The only part im not really satisfied is if I should get the B450 Tomahawk Max or add another 100$ to the tomahawk max and get a Asus B550-F

[papajo]

2 hours ago, Radium_Angel said:

Are you on the Euro, or still your own currency?

Turkey is not even in Europe...

 

 

 

2 hours ago, redcan0 said:

Hey everyone, Recently I built a pc but I feel like I got scammed in terms of the money and spent and what I got. I don’t live in the United States I live in Turkey So I don’t know if you guys could determine if I was scammed or not due to the prices being different but here is what I built. Thoughts?

 

AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.60GHz

Kingston 16 GB DDR4 3200MHz x1

Corsair 960GB MP510 NVMe

Thermaltake V200

Thermaltake TR2 S 600W 80+

Gigabyte B450M H

ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 Super Advanced Edition.

 

Total=1700 USD

Well what you have to do is to google or ask a friend for a lowest price search engine for turkish shops e.g https://geizhals.eu/ is one for European shops. 

 

And that's because if one is not familiar with the Turkish market then he/she can't tell you much because prices are different in different markets. 

 

Here in the EU you can find this stuff for 1200 euro or about 1416 USD but that doesnt mean necessarily that you have been scammed, maybe prices in turkey are higher for a variety of reasons (import taxes, money exchange rate,size of the market in your region shipping cost for the company that imports hardware etc) 

[Spotty]

7 hours ago, redcan0 said:

Thermaltake TR2 S 600W 80+

ASUS STRIX RTX 2080 Super Advanced Edition.

Yikes. You should replace that PSU ASAP. 

 

5 hours ago, redcan0 said:

What I planning to do is sell The B450 H and buy a second hand B450 Tomahawk Max by adding 50$. Also if I sell the ram I can get the same ram but dual channel for 14$ more. I had no plans on replacing the psu since it created no issues its just a bit loud but since everyone hated it so much here I am going to change that as well. The only part im not really satisfied is if I should get the B450 Tomahawk Max or add another 100$ to the tomahawk max and get a Asus B550-F

Instead of going through the hassle of replacing the PSU, the motherboard, the RAM... Why not just return the pre-built PC for a refund and build it yourself? By the time you do a motherboard swap you're essentially building the PC from scratch anyway so it can't be that you don't know how to build a PC.