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Upgrading anything in your PC with your tax return?

Nine Tailed Fox

Yeah, gonna be building a new pc then hand my old gaming to rig to my younger sibling. 

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Mine most likely is going into paying off credit cards. I already have what I want lol

 

 

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9 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Saving it. I don't know why people feel like they HAVE to spend it 

A lot of people living paycheck to paycheck, gives them an opportunity to treat themselves. 

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7 hours ago, Andreas Lilja said:

A lot of people living paycheck to paycheck, gives them an opportunity to treat themselves. 

Definitely true - on the flip side, those people living paycheque to paycheque almost certainly have no long term savings, no retirement savings, no emergency slush fund, etc.

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7 hours ago, Andreas Lilja said:

A lot of people living paycheck to paycheck, gives them an opportunity to treat themselves. 

Or start saving so they don't have to live paycheck to paycheck 

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EDIT - Im just bitching about tax codes so I will stick to topic instead

 

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My return is less than $100 if I've done my work correctly through the year.  I guess I could buy a game with it but it'll probably just sit there. 

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17 hours ago, steelo said:

My wife and I both work full time and we earn around ~90k a year. We usually see ~$3,500...the trick is to claim '0' or find a balance where they take some out and you get some back. 

That's not a "trick" you don't want to give the government more money than you need to.  That money could be yours through the year and be put to work. 

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6 minutes ago, CircleTech said:

You do not want to get a tax return from the government because it means you gave them an interest-free loan for a year for not doing your taxes right.

If you still make enough to live fine off of does it matter? I don't mind overpaying on taxes if I get a noice return later on. 

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22 minutes ago, Zando Bob said:

If you still make enough to live fine off of does it matter? I don't mind overpaying on taxes if I get a noice return later on. 

The reason why people say its bad is because the money you overpaid to the government could be put into something else that could actually grow. Even throwing the extra money in a bank savings account is better than giving it to the government and cashing out the next year, because the savings account still has interest.

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2 minutes ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

The reason why people say its bad is because the money you overpaid to the government could be put into something else that could actually grow. Even throwing the extra money in a bank savings account is better than giving it to the government and cashing out the next year, because the savings account still has interest.

Eh I guess that's valid. I'm just not all that worried about it tbh. I can eat and enjoy my hobbies so I'm good. ?

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1 hour ago, BuckGup said:

Or start saving so they don't have to live paycheck to paycheck 

If you don't understand their situation, this is like telling a depressed person they can be cured of their depression by suggesting "have you tried not being sad?"

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2 hours ago, Zando Bob said:

If you still make enough to live fine off of does it matter? I don't mind overpaying on taxes if I get a noice return later on. 

As others have said, even if you ignore the moral arguments about paying extra taxes, there's a financial reason:

 

If you simply saved that small amount of extra tax you paid, and put it into a Savings Account (Especially a "high interest" one), you'll make a few bucks by the end of the year.

 

Additionally, you could put that money into an actual investment for potentially much higher returns (but also more risk).

 

So if your returns are massive (Like $1000+), you'd be better off taking that same amount and putting it into an investment account. Even a paltry 1.5% APR will net you an extra $15 at the end of the year (more, technically, since most interest accounts pay out monthly, so you've got monthly compound interest in your favour.

 

If someone is getting even larger returns ($4000+), that's $60 of "free" money at 1.5% interest. A few people mentioned they'd be getting back like $20K - that's $300 from the interest alone.

 

So it depends. If your returns are small ($100-200), it's probably not worth the hassle of "optimizing" your taxes, especially if you have to deal with payroll who might not want to mess with the way they do things.

 

For me, I typically get around $100-$200 back, and I'm okay with that. I don't have any kids, so that disqualifies me from most of the good tax credits anyway. Most of my tax credits come from Student Loan interest payments (In Canada, you can claim 15% of your interest payments as a credit), and RRSP (Registered Retirement Savings Plan) payments - basically, any money you put into an RRSP is tax free (and therefore lowers your taxable income by whatever the amount you contributed for the year) - and instead, you get taxed when you Withdraw money from the RRSP when you retire (the theory is that most people make less money, and therefore are in a lower tax bracket, when they're retired).

 

I have a full pension (from when I retire to the day I die), so an RRSP is just supplemental income for me, so I don't put much in there - but it still helps a bit.

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3 hours ago, Velcade said:

That's not a "trick" you don't want to give the government more money than you need to.  That money could be yours through the year and be put to work. 

It all depends on how you look at it...IMO, I'd rather pay a little more throughout the year and not get a nasty surprise come tax time, owing the IRS money (which they will undoubtedly charge interest for)

 

I think the best advice is to find a balance between owing at the end of the year and giving the govt an interest free loan.

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2 hours ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

If you don't understand their situation, this is like telling a depressed person they can be cured of their depression by suggesting "have you tried not being sad?"

Not in any way is that a fair comparison. Its more like telling a depressed person different ways they could potentially get help. Telling someone whos living paycheck to paycheck to start saving and budgeting better is the best advice they could get.

 

If your living paycheck to paycheck, no savings, one bad event (car repair, house repairs, etc) will really hurt you financial and then you get a hefty tax return to spend on crap....then that person is just being dumb with their money. And with that kind of mentality its unlikely they are going to ever stop living paycheck to paycheck.

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14 minutes ago, steelo said:

I think the best advice is to find a balance between owing at the end of the year and giving the govt an interest free loan

Absolutely. This is the goal. 

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3 hours ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

If you don't understand their situation, this is like telling a depressed person they can be cured of their depression by suggesting "have you tried not being sad?"

Depression and financial stability are two completely different problems. 

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I ended up paying on my taxes this year.  So nothing, lmao.

Currently focusing on my video game collection.

It doesn't matter what you play games on, just play good games you enjoy.

 

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7 hours ago, BuckGup said:

Or start saving so they don't have to live paycheck to paycheck 

 Not always an expenses problem. 

 

I mean if you grew up poor, you'll probably be poor later in life. 

Desktop: 7800x3d @ stock, 64gb ddr4 @ 6000, 3080Ti, x670 Asus Strix

 

Laptop: Dell G3 15 - i7-8750h @ stock, 16gb ddr4 @ 2666, 1050Ti 

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