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My first self built P.C. (at 25 Years old OMG)

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Hey guys, so basically, as many on this Thread do, i want to check in with more expertised P.C. builders about my upcoming build.
General Info: I live in Germany, so my Currency would be good 'ol Euro.
The P.C. is supposed to game really really well (we are talking AAA Games for at least the next 5 years hopefully) and to stream, as well as beeing able to do light to mid Video editing
I have a budget of around 2000 Euro, preferrably less than more because i really need to at least buy a monitor in the future (It is not however part of the budget, but seperate, as are a new Keyboard and Mouse) (The monitor should be 1440 p at 144 Hertz btw.

This here is the Parts list i chose, going from what Linus always talks about.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3800X 3.9 GHz 8-Core Processor €367.99 @ Mindfactory
CPU Cooler Corsair H100i RGB PLATINUM 75 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler €129.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard Asus ROG STRIX B450-F GAMING ATX AM4 Motherboard €119.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €85.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €84.89 @ Alternate
Video Card Asus GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB STRIX GAMING Advanced Video Card €619.95 @ ARLT
Case Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case €83.91 @ Amazon Deutschland
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply €99.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €1592.34
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-22 19:16 CET+0100  


What would you say? Could you make this P.C. cheaper? Or significantly better at a similar price?

Also i still have a leftover Windows 10 Education Key so that is no problem either :D (Yay University cheapo-programs)

Looking forward to the replies :)

P.S.: Been using a Lenovo Ideapad y500 for almost 6-8 years now, with an I7 and a Geforce GT 650m. Not a great time, i gotta say monitor will be

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €325.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
CPU Cooler Gelid Solutions Phantom CPU Cooler €27.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €82.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €71.98 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €119.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card €748.94 @ Mindfactory
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case €56.98 @ Alternate
Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply €69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €1502.78
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-22 19:22 CET+0100  

this is what my suggestion would be. cheaper and actually with a better gpu

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What's wrong with 25? I bought my first PC / built it when I was 27. Yet, I'm still an infantile adolescent in my mind and heart. 

 

Be glad to be young. 

 

And use Geizhals,  as far as I noticed, it has a better overview on the market, than PCPartpicker 

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €325.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
CPU Cooler Gelid Solutions Phantom CPU Cooler €27.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Motherboard MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €82.00 @ Amazon Deutschland
Memory Crucial Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory €71.98 @ Amazon Deutschland
Storage Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive €119.99 @ Amazon Deutschland
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card €748.94 @ Mindfactory
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case €56.98 @ Alternate
Power Supply BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply €69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €1502.78
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-22 19:22 CET+0100  

this is what my suggestion would be. cheaper and actually with a better gpu

SO you'd say for my usecase the GPU is way more important than getting a 3800X vs a 3700 X?

I mean its almost 100 Euros cheaper, so this sounds awesome. RGB is nice, but not at the cost of... well, a better P.C. i'd say

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so you'd say for my usecase the GPU is way more important than getting a 3800X vs a 3700 X?

the 3800x is a slightly higher binned 3700x, which you can just overclock to or past the 3800x with PBO. with that most overclocking of zen 2 happens on the memory side, hence i chose to add in a micron e die kit, which should get you pretty far

 

2 minutes ago, Xtendoone said:

RGB is nice, but not at the cost of... well, a better P.C. i'd say

you can swap the case to something with more rgb (an example would be the cooler master mb511 rgb), add a led strip or something along those lines. you do still have some room in your budget left

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1 minute ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Corsair RMX 550w,  ten years warranty, fully modular, 85€.

The Power supply would be highly interesting, because i think being modular would help me a lot with routing etc. when doing it for the first time (and believe me, I'm nervous af XD)

 

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

the 3800x is a slightly higher binned 3700x, which you can just overclock to or past the 3800x with PBO. with that most overclocking of zen 2 happens on the memory side, hence i chose to add in a micron e die kit, which should get you pretty far

Okay so basically as long as I'm willing to tinker a little it doesn't matter which of the 2 Ryzen 7 i choose, gotcha!

But if i overclock, would that cooler be enough for the chip? I am not aware of how got overclocked Ryzen runs.

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why do people forget to add fans to there budget, or fan controllers?

 

these are great for the price, i would recommend getting a pwm hub so you can set fan curves via software

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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Just now, Xtendoone said:

But if i overclock, would that cooler be enough for the chip?

the cooler is surprisingly good for the price, actually

 

i only have a dutch review on it, but with a look on the graphs you get an idea of it

https://nl.hardware.info/artikel/7606/gelid-phantom-black-review-dual-fan-tower

 

to give an idea about power usage

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1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

or the revolution df and whisper m, if modularity really is the point here

Though I love Whisper, I found the cables a bit too stiff. And Corsair has longer warranty. But one can't go wrong with neither. Costs are very similar 

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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3 minutes ago, scuff gang said:

why do people forget to add fans to there budget, or fan controllers?

 

these are great for the price, i would recommend getting a pwm hub so you can set fan curves via software

Oh I always forget to mention it when recommending. I always assume, that the build will be done with 4 case fans. Certainly very important part of a rig. Temperatures, noise and looks will be grateful for not sparing on good fans

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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4 minutes ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Oh I always forget to mention it when recommending. I always assume, that the build will be done with 4 case fans. Certainly very important part of a rig. Temperatures, noise and looks will be grateful for not sparing on good fans

shit sorry forgot to add link

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07QFX1RV1/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?smid=A34UXG42R582TP&psc=1

bitwit made a video on them

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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1 minute ago, Vejnemojnen said:

Oh I always forget to mention it when recommending. I always assume, that the build will be done with 4 case fans. Certainly very important part of a rig. Temperatures, noise and looks will be grateful for not sparing on good fans

So i should really look at how many Fans come with the case and add to get 4 and a Fan controller is what you guys are saying? I mean easy, you lowered the price of the machine signifitcantly so that helps. Basically COrsair Fans and Controller should be fine for this?

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Should suffice. I only wrote four, as most ATX tower cases can accomodate three in the front, one at behind. 

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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Thank you to all 3 of you guys, you helped me out A LOT!

When I build this PC I'll be sure to show it off in the builds Thread!

I'm open for any other suggestion if somebody comes by this 'lil thread. 

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I'll recommend something like this instead...

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (€325.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Motherboard: MSI B450-A PRO MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€82.00 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Memory: Patriot Viper 4 Blackout 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  (€90.80 @ Alza) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€119.99 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  (€742.74 @ Alza) 
Case: Cougar MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  (€48.42 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Power Supply: BitFenix Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply  (€69.90 @ Amazon Deutschland) 
Total: €1478.85
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-01-23 05:38 CET+0100

SSD TIER LIST

 

 

CPU - Ryzen 7 3700X

Mobo - ASRock X470 Taichi

Memory - G.Skill Trident Z RGB (8x2 3200MHz) 

Storage - Sabrent Rocket 1TB - Seagate Barracuda 2TB - WD Black 1TB

GPU - MSI GeForce GTX 980Ti LIGHTNING

Case - Fractal Design Meshify C

PSU - Super Flower Leadex II Gold 650W

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https://www.amazon.de/dp/B07WXJVGN5?tag=pcp05-21&linkCode=ogi&th=1

Quick Question: Would this card better than the one suggested here? Coz its on sale

On 1/22/2020 at 7:22 PM, LukeSavenije said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
     
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC Video Card €748.94 @ Mindfactory
     

 

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7 minutes ago, Xtendoone said:

Quick Question: Would this card better than the one suggested here? Coz its on sale

gaming oc and windforce are comparable, just get whatever is cheaper

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Hey, got another Question.

 

For a Ryzen 7 3700x and a NVME SSD would you choose the Asus Prime b450 Plus or the MSI A-Pro Max? Both are the same Price RN.

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9 minutes ago, Xtendoone said:

Hey, got another Question.

 

For a Ryzen 7 3700x and a NVME SSD would you choose the Asus Prime b450 Plus or the MSI A-Pro Max? Both are the same Price RN.

Go for MSI A-Pro Max and also some of the builds above are not that great, wait a bit for my reply and I’ll post a list :)

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PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/82GTp8

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($309.95 @ Amazon) 
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Motherboard: ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($84.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($119.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($49.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card  ($739.79 @ Walmart) 
Case: NZXT H510i ATX Mid Tower Case  ($99.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Case Fan: Cooler Master MF120R ARGB 3in1  59 CFM 120 mm Fans  ($48.93 @ Amazon) 
Total: $1728.60
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-02-12 14:57 EST-0500

 

 

 

This is approximately 1589.72 euros. The extra fans set is to replace the fans on the radiator of the cooler. Some parts might be more cheaper on some websites so be on the lookout of that. If you have any questions then quote me or tag me :) happy to help!

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<a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/list/82GTp8">PCPartPicker Part List</a>
<table class="pcpp-part-list">
  <thead>
    <tr>
      <th>Type</th>
      <th>Item</th>
      <th>Price</th>
    </tr>
  </thead>
  <tbody>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">CPU</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKJtt6/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000071box">AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/QKJtt6/amd-ryzen-7-3700x-36-ghz-8-core-processor-100-100000071box">$309.95 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">CPU Cooler</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RcdFf7/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-667-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a20pc-r1">Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L RGB 66.7 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RcdFf7/cooler-master-masterliquid-ml240l-rgb-667-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-mlw-d24m-a20pc-r1">$64.99 @ Newegg</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Motherboard</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wb7v6h/asrock-b450-steel-legend-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-steel-legend">ASRock B450 Steel Legend ATX AM4 Motherboard</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wb7v6h/asrock-b450-steel-legend-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-steel-legend">$99.99 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Memory</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc">G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jBZzK8/gskill-ripjaws-v-16-gb-2-x-8-gb-ddr4-3600-memory-f4-3600c16d-16gvkc">$84.99 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Storage</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HmmFf7/sabrent-rocket-q-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sb-rktq-1tb">Sabrent Rocket Q 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/HmmFf7/sabrent-rocket-q-1-tb-m2-2280-nvme-solid-state-drive-sb-rktq-1tb">$119.99 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Storage</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008">Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/mwrYcf/seagate-barracuda-computer-2-tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm008">$49.99 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Video Card</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqkgXL/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-gaming-x-trio-video-card-rtx-2080-super-gaming-x-trio">MSI GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER 8 GB GAMING X TRIO Video Card</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/dqkgXL/msi-geforce-rtx-2080-super-8-gb-gaming-x-trio-video-card-rtx-2080-super-gaming-x-trio">$739.79 @ Walmart</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Case</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BM848d/nzxt-h510i-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510i-w1">NZXT H510i ATX Mid Tower Case</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/BM848d/nzxt-h510i-atx-mid-tower-case-ca-h510i-w1">$99.99 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Power Supply</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na">Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/2HbwrH/corsair-rmx-2018-650w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-cp-9020178-na">$109.99 @ Newegg</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-type">Case Fan</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-item"><a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gb66Mp/cooler-master-mf120r-argb-3in1-59-cfm-120mm-fans-r4-120r-203c-r1">Cooler Master MF120R ARGB 3in1  59 CFM 120 mm Fans</a></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price">
        <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Gb66Mp/cooler-master-mf120r-argb-3in1-59-cfm-120mm-fans-r4-120r-203c-r1">$48.93 @ Amazon</a>
      </td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price-note">Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts</td>
      <td></td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal">Total (before mail-in rebates)</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal-price">$1738.60</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal">Mail-in rebates</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-subtotal-price">-$10.00</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-total">Total</td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-total-price">$1728.60</td>
    </tr>
    <tr>
      <td></td>
      <td class="pcpp-part-list-price-note">Generated by <a href="https://pcpartpicker.com">PCPartPicker</a> 2020-02-12 14:47 EST-0500</td>
      <td></td>
    </tr>
  </tbody>
</table>

 

 

This is approximately 1589.72 euros. The extra fans set is to replace the fans on the radiator of the cooler. Some parts might be more cheaper on some websites so be on the lookout of that. If you have any questions then quote me or tag me :) happy to help!

Would be nice if you post a correct Pc Part Picker Link XD but thx for the effort

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18 minutes ago, Xtendoone said:

Would be nice if you post a correct Pc Part Picker Link XD but thx for the effort

Lol I updated it soon after, why is still showing that? Just click the link on the top lmao. Tell me your thoughts on it! :)

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