Why do AMD4 MoBo's have HDMI/DP on the board?

[The_Geek]

Just trying to understand.

All the X470/now X570 have the HDMI/DP built in, but you cant use them as the CPU's do not have a GPU onboard.

So what is the use for these onboard connections if you cant use them?

[RainingTacco]

2 minutes ago, The_Geek said:

Just trying to understand.

All the X470/now X570 have the HDMI/DP built in, but you cant use them as the CPU's do not have a GPU onboard.

So what is the use for these onboard connections if you cant use them?

Some CPUs do have the integrated GPU... like 3200g. 

[Srijan Verma]

The g variants of ryzen gpus have igpu

[The_Geek]

I know there are the "G" variants... but who uses these "G" variants?

Like for what purpose?

[CPT_BEEMO]

Typically someone who would not need a stand-alone graphics processor. For example, someone who maybe wants to build a PC for low graphic intensity games such as minecraft. I surf around on pcpartpicker quite often and find multiple cases where they dont need a GPU, but can still run some games as necessary. The processors would also be very effective in an office style computer utilizing a 2400G processor, its quite cost effective at a business standpoint to purchase a computer with an APU, instead of a CPU/GPU combo.

[The_Geek]

Was thinking, the Corporate world does not build their own PC's. They go with OEM, Dell/HP and the kind.

These PC's are not normal, i.e., 99% of the times these PC's will have OEM MoBo's and chips and CPU's and all that, so Manufacturers can actually delete these interfaces from x470/x570 and replace these with better features as only the builders will buy these MoBo's in any case.

 

I think this is a waste of resources and space. This may not be of any use to the business world.

[Princess Luna]

1 hour ago, The_Geek said:

I know there are the "G" variants... but who uses these "G" variants?

Like for what purpose?

My entire office has R5 2400G based machines... they replaced older prebuilds with outdated i5's

[Letgomyleghoe]

3 hours ago, The_Geek said:

Just trying to understand.

All the X470/now X570 have the HDMI/DP built in, but you cant use them as the CPU's do not have a GPU onboard.

So what is the use for these onboard connections if you cant use them?

Why ask a question just to argue, there's businesses that build their own PC's and in this use case it's very cost effective.

This would Also be useful for people who need a PC at home for school work or whatnot on a budget like I did at one point.

There's multiple use cases for the HDMI ports just because you won't use them doesn't mean other wont

Edited December 28, 2019 by scuff gang

[Princess Luna]

Just now, scuff gang said:

Why ask a question just to argue, there's businesses that build their own PC's and in this use case it's very cost effective.

More silent than anything that comes with Intel Stock cooler as well, the difference between a Wraith Spire and the Intel Stock is gigantic!

[Letgomyleghoe]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

More silent than anything that comes with Intel Stock cooler as well, the difference between a Wraith Spire and the Intel Stock is gigantic!

For the Intel CPUs that do come with a stock cooler lmao.

[CPT_BEEMO]

22 minutes ago, scuff gang said:

Why ask a question just to argue, there's businesses that build their own PC's and in this use case it's very cost effective.

This would Also be useful for people who need a PC at home for school work or whatnot on a budget like I did at one point.

There's multiple use cases for the HDMI ports just because you won't use them doesn't mean other wont

Agreed completely, Its not just a corporate world that could use these components, maybe a small business could get away with pinching pennies by building vs buying a prebuilt lenovo thinkcenter with no path of upgradability. Students, players with low budgets for low graphics gaming, etc. multiple use cases and the be all end all is that it is extremely cost effective to go this route. If you're looking for an HEDT then you wouldnt buy this CPU. I built a rig with a 2400G for a former roommate who wanted something to simply use quickbooks and browse the web, saved him 300 bucks versus him buying a prebuilt. 

[D3AN0]

Is it really a bad question? I makes sense for a low budget mobo paired with a g prossesor but why have them on an expensive mobo thats never going to have a cheaper prosessor installed in it? Who is going to spend a bunch of mony on a X570 mobo and put a 3000G into it?

[RonnieOP]

1 minute ago, D3AN0 said:

Is it really a bad question? I makes sense for a low budget mobo paired with a g prossesor but why have them on an expensive mobo thats never going to have a cheaper prosessor installed in it? Who is going to spend a bunch of mony on a X570 mobo and put a 3000G into it?

Maybe they want pcie 4.0 for nvme speeds.

Maybe they need the extra pci e slots for various add on cards.

 

Maybe someone is saving up for a 3950x and 2080ti in the mean time they are using a used 2200g.

 

You cant think of all pc users as gamers. the majoirty of pc users arent even pc gamers.

 

[mariushm]

On 12/28/2019 at 8:33 PM, The_Geek said:

Just trying to understand.

All the X470/now X570 have the HDMI/DP built in, but you cant use them as the CPU's do not have a GPU onboard.

So what is the use for these onboard connections if you cant use them?

There are several socket AM4 processors which have integrated graphics. It may not make sense to you to buy such an expensive motherboard only to combine it with a processor with integrated graphics, but for some people it may matter.

For example, x570 based motherboards support up to 128 GB of memory (4 sticks of 32 GB) which could be useful for a NAS server that would cache contents of lots of drives.  A NAS cares less about the video card's performance.

Some of these boards also have 2.5gbps ethernet or even 10gbps ethernet and also have much better wireless (1.73gbps or higher), compared to B450 motherboards.

 

The x570 motherboards also have pci-e 4.0, which can be useful for someone that needs to import high volumes of data onto a SSD or two, like for example raw 4K from a capture card.  You have 2 M.2 connectors, each pci-e 4.0, and with integrated graphics, you could add one or two extra adapter cards to convert pci-e 4.0 slots into m.2 connectors. So, you could have for example at least 4 M.2 connectors capable of pci-e 4.0 speeds.

 

[Mister Woof]

22 hours ago, D3AN0 said:

Is it really a bad question? I makes sense for a low budget mobo paired with a g prossesor but why have them on an expensive mobo thats never going to have a cheaper prosessor installed in it? Who is going to spend a bunch of mony on a X570 mobo and put a 3000G into it?

IMO as you go up in price, you gain features not lose them. Dropping integrated video on a higher end board means losing features. That doesn't make sense to me.