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Motherboard VRM Tier List v2 (currently AMD only)

Jurrunio
By Jurrunio
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19 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The test post was created in 2019, but my screenshot is from yesterday XD

but can my F tier board handle 5600 Ryzen? (ASUS PRIME B450M-K)

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PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

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3 minutes ago, podkall said:

but can my F tier board handle 5600 Ryzen? (ASUS PRIME B450M-K)

Stick with a downdraft air cooler and you would be fine

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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31 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Stick with a downdraft air cooler and you would be fine

my case has a pretty good airflow, 3intake and 3 exhaust fans

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Feel free to ask any questions regarding my comments/build lists. I know a lot about PCs but not everything.

PC:

Ryzen 5 5600 |16GB DDR4 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

PCs I used before:

Pentium G4500 | 4GB/8GB DDR4 2133Mhz | H110 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz / OC:4Ghz | 8GB DDR4 2133Mhz / 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1050

Ryzen 3 1200 3,5Ghz | 16GB 3200Mhz | B450 | GTX 1080 ti

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Hello just want to confirm if the TUF PRO II in A tier is the ASUS TUF B450M Pro II. Also i was choosing between the B450M pro II and Asrock B550M Pro 4 any onpinions which one i should get?

 

R5 5600 + RX 6600

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On 8/26/2023 at 5:49 AM, Peanut17 said:

Hello just want to confirm if the TUF PRO II in A tier is the ASUS TUF B450M Pro II. Also i was choosing between the B450M pro II and Asrock B550M Pro 4 any onpinions which one i should get?

 

R5 5600 + RX 6600

Yes

Tuf pro ii is better for components but it shouldnt make any difference with just an R5

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Due to massive error in my own judgement I need a new M-ATX or ITX board for my Ryzen 5900X. Would the Asus X570-I, ASRock ITX/TB3 or the MSI B550M Motar be better? Or is there a better choice for this form factor? Having 2.5G LAN would be a nice addition as well.

Specs: Motherboard: Asus X470-PLUS TUF gaming (Yes I know it's poor but I wasn't informed) RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX DDR4 3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 2x8GB

            CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X          Case: Antec P8     PSU: Corsair RM850x                        Cooler: Antec K240 with two Noctura Industrial PPC 3000 PWM

            Drives: Samsung 970 EVO plus 250GB, Micron 1100 2TB, Seagate ST4000DM000/1F2168 GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 ti Black edition

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5 hours ago, williamcll said:

Due to massive error in my own judgement I need a new M-ATX or ITX board for my Ryzen 5900X. Would the Asus X570-I, ASRock ITX/TB3 or the MSI B550M Motar be better? Or is there a better choice for this form factor? Having 2.5G LAN would be a nice addition as well.

Asus X570-I should be the best out of the 3, without looking at the exact price available today. But thing with AM4 ITX boards is that B550 and X570 products are often 99% identical with a not so identical price, so maybe consider their B550 counterparts as well

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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On 8/29/2023 at 7:59 AM, Jurrunio said:

Asus X570-I should be the best out of the 3, without looking at the exact price available today. But thing with AM4 ITX boards is that B550 and X570 products are often 99% identical with a not so identical price, so maybe consider their B550 counterparts as well

I ended up getting the ASUS B550M TUF plus mATX WiFi because nothing else good was available at the mall.

Specs: Motherboard: Asus X470-PLUS TUF gaming (Yes I know it's poor but I wasn't informed) RAM: Corsair VENGEANCE® LPX DDR4 3200Mhz CL16-18-18-36 2x8GB

            CPU: Ryzen 9 5900X          Case: Antec P8     PSU: Corsair RM850x                        Cooler: Antec K240 with two Noctura Industrial PPC 3000 PWM

            Drives: Samsung 970 EVO plus 250GB, Micron 1100 2TB, Seagate ST4000DM000/1F2168 GPU: EVGA RTX 2080 ti Black edition

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Had 2 Gigabyte B450 Aorus elite (ATX) die on me within 9 months each, with a 5700G and default settings on CPU and RAM and I kinda see that this may be the cause  now, I remember HWinfo showing current close to 80 amps, and list states 75 amps for that motherboard. Second time it definitely died right after a heavy CPU load, not sure for the first time (it was dying slowly the first time, second time it went black screen, got it to POST once again with clear CMOS and then refused to even spin a fan ever again).

Never had a motherboard issue ever before, between probably 40 boards i put together for family and friends, and now same motherboard has died twice.

It's very disappointing that a CPU that is on the official supported CPU list is maxing out and even potentially overloading the VRM.

I am now questioning all the builds I have done before this one, I'm no novus builder and I am a computer technician, but it never occurred to me that an officially supported CPU might be too much for the motherboard VRM (on default settings mind you, not even XMP was turned on).

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Hi
Currently i am trying to build a am4 system becase i dont think i need an AM5 system

I want to use this system for 5 or 6 years if i can 

I have 2K monitor

My CPU choice 5600X 

Probably i will buy 7800xt as GPU

I want to use this system as far as i can go with it so i am considering OC

Which motherboard u guys suggest me ? (I want this motherboard includes WIFI and Bluetooth)

I tried to write those words correctly but my english is bad. Sorry about that 

Have a nice day

 

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On 8/29/2023 at 6:59 AM, Jurrunio said:

Asus X570-I should be the best out of the 3, without looking at the exact price available today. But thing with AM4 ITX boards is that B550 and X570 products are often 99% identical with a not so identical price, so maybe consider their B550 counterparts as well

I just bought a Ryzen 7 3700X (2x16gb Ram Corsair Vengeance LPX) but am new to all this so this list means nothing to me, I have a choice of these to pick:
MSI B450M PRO VDH MAX

GIGABYTE B450M DS3H V2

ASUS PRIME B450M-A II

MSI B450M-A PRO MAX II
 

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12 hours ago, RyanR7 said:

I just bought a Ryzen 7 3700X (2x16gb Ram Corsair Vengeance LPX) but am new to all this so this list means nothing to me, I have a choice of these to pick:
MSI B450M PRO VDH MAX

GIGABYTE B450M DS3H V2

ASUS PRIME B450M-A II

MSI B450M-A PRO MAX II
 

Get tier D or better

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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This list is not updated, several items are missing. MSI Gaming GEN3, Gigabyte B550 UD AC, Gigabyte Gaming X V2.

ASUS Prime B550 Plus is listed twice under speculation - A-tier and D-tier. 

 

Why are the items not formatted? B550, B450, B350 should be on separate lines.

Temperature and VRM information is missing... If a board has great power delivery, that doesn't necessarily mean it also has good heatsinks.. I bet there's quite a bit of temperature variance within some of the tier levels.

I've found separate charts for VRM and temperatures, but it's quite annoying trying to read all 3 at the same time.

 

I'm looking at either the ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 (125 CAD, minus 40mir), Pro4 (145 CAD), MSI B550-A Pro (140 cad).

CPU is 5700G, I just want to be covered in case I ever go 5900x.

Looks like I might be going MSI B550-A Pro.

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