Why do all productivity monitors capped at 60Hz?

[MysticLTT]

With high refresh rate being all the rage right now, it's weird how the non-gamer monitors are stuck at 60Hz. My tablet is 120, my phone is 90Hz, and then my desktop is a lousy 60. Guess what, doing work and editing is also nicer on high refresh rate monitor, moving windows etc, and what if want to have stuff done and god forbid.. play a game! Right now the best I can get is an LG with Freesync 75Hz and maybe it can be overclocked to 81 without the Freesync.

[KarathKasun]

Because cheap.

[Mira Yurizaki]

It may be nicer, but it doesn't actually improve productivity.

[AnonymousGuy]

>doing work and editing is also nicer on high refresh rate monitor,

 

Uhhhh, no?  Your phone and tablet are only going to go to high refresh rates during select apps anyways, because they too acknowledge you don't need high refresh rate for mundane things like reading email.

 

My ideal work monitors would be 40" 4k  x2, because I need volume of pixels.  My issued laptop doesn't have a GPU for gaming anyways, because it's not meant for that.

[Jurrunio]

12 minutes ago, MysticLTT said:

non-gamer monitors are stuck at 60Hz

that's points it out, high refresh rate is for gaming. Productivity monitors spent their cost elsewhere, say better colour accuracy, contrast, viewing angles, size, resolution etc.

 

12 minutes ago, MysticLTT said:

My tablet is 120, my phone is 90Hz,

so what, it only reaches that in a few applications. It's not like tablets or phones will have use for even greater accuracy or size something like that, so variable refresh rate becomes an option for making products sound premium.

[Mira Yurizaki]

I would say having a higher refresh rate on a phone, tablet, or other touch device is probably better to a point for responsiveness. But it's still at the mercy of how fast the software can update as well.

[PlayStation 2]

I'll tell you right now that most productivity monitors are 60Hz because higher refresh rates probably don't serve a purpose. Hell, it'd actually be a detriment to me as I capture a lot of 59.94fps content.

[RAS_3885]

12 minutes ago, MysticLTT said:

With high refresh rate being all the rage right now, it's weird how the non-gamer monitors are stuck at 60Hz. My tablet is 120, my phone is 90Hz, and then my desktop is a lousy 60. Guess what, doing work and editing is also nicer on high refresh rate monitor, moving windows etc, and what if want to have stuff done and god forbid.. play a game! Right now the best I can get is an LG with Freesync 75Hz and maybe it can be overclocked to 81 without the Freesync.

Not weird, but rather the money is spent on features that matter more to content creators/productivity folks instead of high refresh rates.

 

Now, that's not to say that there aren't nice monitors out there that give you both, but they are usually more expensive.  Sounds like you want one of those...

[vanished]

You could say the opposite - that colour accurate, wide gamut displays are all the rage right now, and it's weird that gaming monitors are stuck with crappy TNs

 

The simple fact is unless you have an unlimited budget (and even then you're limited by the best technology of the day), certain features have to be prioritized over others depending on the intended market for the monitor.  Making a monitor faster causes design challenges that mean either the price must be increased, and/or colour quality must be reduced, and for a market where colour is everything and motion doesn't really matter that much, it's a worthy sacrifice.

[Doobeedoo]

Literally every display should be 120Hz minimum by now. 

[MysticLTT]

20 hours ago, Mira Yurizaki said:

It may be nicer, but it doesn't actually improve productivity.

Smoother, less eye fatigue, more time spent doing work, of course there are benefits

[KarathKasun]

1 hour ago, MysticLTT said:

Smoother, less eye fatigue, more time spent doing work, of course there are benefits

Refresh rate eye fatigue is not a thing with LCDs.  That is only a thing with CRTs.

[Jurrunio]

2 hours ago, MysticLTT said:

Smoother, less eye fatigue, more time spent doing work, of course there are benefits

would you mind paying a lot more money then? I dont think it's technologically impossible, but their research probably found out that their actual customers would rather get more monitors for example, than higher refresh rate. It's rare to see movies break 60fps in the first place so as long as your monitor is at least as fast as your videos, it's good enough.

[MysticLTT]

16 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

would you mind paying a lot more money then? I dont think it's technologically impossible, but their research probably found out that their actual customers would rather get more monitors for example, than higher refresh rate. It's rare to see movies break 60fps in the first place so as long as your monitor is at least as fast as your videos, it's good enough.

I would pay more for a smoother desktop experience at about 80-100Hz which is doable

[Jurrunio]

3 hours ago, MysticLTT said:

I would pay more for a smoother desktop experience at about 80-100Hz which is doable

then too bad few think the same

[MadAnt250]

On 11/18/2019 at 5:47 PM, MysticLTT said:

With high refresh rate being all the rage right now, it's weird how the non-gamer monitors are stuck at 60Hz.

My non-gamer LCD monitor can do 77Hz and there is no difference in my work experience.

[Glenwing]

I suppose it's for the same reason they don't have RGB accent lights.

[MysticLTT]

38 minutes ago, MadAnt250 said:

My non-gamer LCD monitor can do 77Hz and there is no difference in my work experience.

If you drag a window, don't you see it?

[KarathKasun]

1 minute ago, MysticLTT said:

If you drag a window, don't you see it?

Not in any way that impacts anything.

[jones177]

On 11/18/2019 at 5:47 PM, MysticLTT said:

With high refresh rate being all the rage right now, it's weird how the non-gamer monitors are stuck at 60Hz. My tablet is 120, my phone is 90Hz, and then my desktop is a lousy 60. Guess what, doing work and editing is also nicer on high refresh rate monitor, moving windows etc, and what if want to have stuff done and god forbid.. play a game! Right now the best I can get is an LG with Freesync 75Hz and maybe it can be overclocked to 81 without the Freesync.

The 75hz LGs that say they can only run at 75 with Freesync is sort of not true.

Over half the games I play default to 75hz with vsync. 

For example Assassin's Creed Odyssey and origins run at 75hz unless I use HDR.

 

On 11/18/2019 at 5:49 PM, KarathKasun said:

Because cheap.

I wish my 75hz monitor was cheap but it cost more than double what my 1440p 144hz G-sync monitor did.

[KarathKasun]

1 hour ago, jones177 said:

The 75hz LGs that say they can only run at 75 with Freesync is sort of not true.

Over half the games I play default to 75hz with vsync. 

For example Assassin's Creed Odyssey and origins run at 75hz unless I use HDR.

 

I wish my 75hz monitor was cheap but it cost more than double what my 1440p 144hz G-sync monitor did.

Most "office" monitors are 1080p 60-75hz VA or TN panels, maybe an IPS panel if you are lucky.  You can get them new for something like $80.

[MysticLTT]

15 hours ago, jones177 said:

The 75hz LGs that say they can only run at 75 with Freesync is sort of not true.

Over half the games I play default to 75hz with vsync. 

For example Assassin's Creed Odyssey and origins run at 75hz unless I use HDR.

 

I wish my 75hz monitor was cheap but it cost more than double what my 1440p 144hz G-sync monitor did.

I've heard you have to turn off Freesync if you want to overclock to 80+

[MysticLTT]

14 hours ago, KarathKasun said:

Most "office" monitors are 1080p 60-75hz VA or TN panels, maybe an IPS panel if you are lucky.  You can get them new for something like $80.

I'm getting this for Adobe and gaming, not expensive but far from the cheapest, 75Hz, some drove it to 81: https://www.lg.com/us/business/desktop-monitors/lg-34UB88-P

[jones177]

7 minutes ago, MysticLTT said:

I've heard you have to turn off Freesync if you want to overclock to 80+

My 60hz LG frame skips even at 61hz and I have not tried with my 75hz LG.

4 minutes ago, MysticLTT said:

I'm getting this for Adobe and gaming, not expensive but far from the cheapest, 75hz, some drove it to 81: https://www.lg.com/us/business/desktop-monitors/lg-34UB88-P

The 34UB88-P is a 2016 model and lacks features the new versions have. It is an excellent pick for Photoshop.

The 2019 version uses the same panel so all you would be missing is HDR 10.

These are 60hz monitors.

 

Right now for $650 you can get a Alienware AW3418DW at newegg or a ASUS ROG Swift PG348Q for $50 more. 

Wait for Black Friday/cyber Monday maybe one of these will drop into your price bracket. 

 

The last 2 monitors I bought on those dates dropped over $150.  

 

[Mihle]

On 11/19/2019 at 8:34 PM, MysticLTT said:

Smoother, less eye fatigue, more time spent doing work, of course there are benefits

Two of those three things is just wrong.