Phantex evolv ITX tempered glass airflow choke?

[Goldman]

Hey guys, i'm looking to get an ITX case but where i live i've been struggling to get anything other than phantex evolv ITX tempered glass.(wanted an h210i tbh but it seems there's no way to get it over here)

i've been reading all over the internet that the evolv ITX has really crappy aiflow because the front panel chokes the intake. Does this still happen in the tempered glass edition of the case?

 

Thanks

[Jurrunio]

yep, considering there's no change to the chassis itself.

[Goldman]

do you think it's gonna harm temps too much?

[Skiiwee29]

36 minutes ago, goldman said:

do you think it's gonna harm temps too much?

its very significant.  I have the original ATX version and with stock configuration on my old 6700k with a Cryorig R1 Ultimate I would regularly push my CPU into the 80s while gaming. Just removing the front panel would cause temps to drop 20-25c. 

[Goldman]

quick question:
does this happen on the fractal design define nano s?
i'm pretty sure there's a lot more space than on the phanteks, but wanted to ask anyway

[TVwazhere]

9 hours ago, goldman said:

quick question:
does this happen on the fractal design define nano s?
i'm pretty sure there's a lot more space than on the phanteks, but wanted to ask anyway

Not nearly as bad. Fractal Design properly spaces their front panels and fans to allow the fans to pull in fresh air. Airflow would be similar if not the same as the H210 (if you used the exact same fans in each case)

[Goldman]

3 hours ago, TVwazhere said:

Not nearly as bad. Fractal Design properly spaces their front panels and fans to allow the fans to pull in fresh air. Airflow would be similar if not the same as the H210 (if you used the exact same fans in each case)

thanks. still it seems like my country doesnt like itx or something(cant get it anywhere here)

saw a video by bitwit and read in a couple of places that itx cases with the standard atx form factor (horizontal GPU with PSU under it) have problems with GPU airflow on non-blower GPUS.

i know this isnt exactly the theme of the topic but wanted to ask how much of this is true? should i just get a mATX case?(i can get a meshify C in my country which is a case that i really liked, might be a better idea?)

[TVwazhere]

20 hours ago, goldman said:

saw a video by bitwit and read in a couple of places that itx cases with the standard atx form factor (horizontal GPU with PSU under it) have problems with GPU airflow on non-blower GPUS.

i know this isnt exactly the theme of the topic but wanted to ask how much of this is true? should i just get a mATX case?

This is because the GPU's get put up very close to the surface of the PSU, and Open air cards have two fans, one where the blower an would be but the other is directly over the PSU, trying to pull in air from a relatively small gap. 

 

An mATX case can fix this issue since the card will be lifted up one or two PCI-e slot lengts from the PSU's surface, giving it a lot more breathing room. Really it comes down to what GPU you're using. I wouldnt worry too much about it for say a 1660ti, but maybe if you had a dual slot 2080 i'd consider it. 

 

Additionally if your card is a tripple slot, most cases wont be able to support the card. Two cases I know of are the newly release Lian Li TU150 and the Metallic Gear Neo Mini G, both of which have 3 slots for extra thicc cards (though I'd recommend the TU150 since it has direct access to air from the bottom)

[Goldman]

exactly. been thinking i could get an inwin a1 plus(though i would end up paying something like 470 US$ just from taxes and shipping) or a meshify mini C, which, while it's a really nice case(wanted to get a meshify before deciding to get something ITX) would be kinda crappy since i wanted something small.

[TVwazhere]

18 hours ago, goldman said:

exactly. been thinking i could get an inwin a1 plus(though i would end up paying something like 470 US$ just from taxes and shipping) or a meshify mini C, which, while it's a really nice case(wanted to get a meshify before deciding to get something ITX) would be kinda crappy since i wanted something small.

I'd probably recommend the TU150 over the A1, but you might still be paying a butt-ton of import fees for it  

[Goldman]

Yeah, sadly. Ended getting a ritoro cr280 (it's kinda like a poor man's define nano s), hopefully at some moment i'll be able to get an sfx PSU with an adaptor so that the GPU can breath(right now it's not a problem as my vega 56 has a blower fan)(i'm saying hopefully, because, again, sfx PSU are non-existent).

 

Thanks everyone for the help though, might post some photos when the build is done

[Goldman]

Forgot to ask, what tests can i use to test the temps on my old case and the new one?

[TVwazhere]

10 hours ago, goldman said:

Forgot to ask, what tests can i use to test the temps on my old case and the new one?

Any type of benchmark that puts your system under sustained load. Some free ones for the GPU are Unigine Heaven benchmark, and prime 95 for the CPU (I personally like to run back to back runs of Cinebench R20 but that's just me). 

[Goldman]

here are some pictures of the build, tbh i cant believe how small it is lol. when i test temps in this i'll upload it

 

[Goldman]

temps(tested the cpu with prime95 and the GPU with furmark):
Corsair 400c

 

riotoro cr280

[Goldman]

Hey, i've got a question about airflow in the case.(specifically, about fan configurations and intake vs exhaust)
Should i ask it here? or make another thread in the air cooling forum?

[TVwazhere]

19 hours ago, goldman said:

Hey, i've got a question about airflow in the case.(specifically, about fan configurations and intake vs exhaust)
Should i ask it here? or make another thread in the air cooling forum?

You can ask it here.

[Goldman]

TY.

So, i finally got an SFX PSU and a fan hub(also an asus rtx 2080, which is awesome) , and with it, now i have the space to put a 120mm fan next to the PSU(basically, in front of it, right under the blower of the GPU).

Considering my fan hub has space for 4 fans, i've been thinking if i should add another fan(having 3 intake fans, two on the front, one from the bottom, and one exhaust on the back) or just move the lower intake fan there,but  having 3-intake and 1 exhaust kinda isnt clicking, so i wanted to ask for opinions. Should i move the lower intake fan to the bottom? or keep it there? Also, if i add another fan, should it be exhaust or intake? if it's exhaust, what's the best place to put it?(there's space for 2 exhaust on the top) right above the CPU? or closer to the front?

 

thanks