Am I building a bottleneck?

[mplays03]

Hey y'all, I'm new here. :)

I am sorry if this is the wrong subforum...

I am building a gaming computer (that isn't only going to be used for gaming) for the first time. I've done a lot of research and know how I'll put it together, what everything is and what it does, etc. I'm not nervous about that part of the build, but I am slightly worried I am creating a bottleneck.

The computer is probably going to be playing FortNite, CS:GO, Rocket League, OverWatch, and maybe some racing games down the line. I want to try Linux because I built my $650 computer and then Windows just about made me crap my pants (totally forgot I had to pay for it! ugh.) Other than gaming, it'll be used for school and internet browsing, YouTube, that kind of stuff. nothing too demanding. I'll also only need 1080 @60hz, as that is what my monitor supports.

So here is what I'm looking at for hardware:

Zotac Nvidia GTX 1060 6G (I know this is a previous generation card, but you can still buy them new all over the place, and they are much cheaper.)

AMD Ryzen 5 1600 w/ stock cooler (once again, I know this is previous gen, but it is $70 cheaper and only drops 0.2 GHz to the new processors.)

ASUS TUF B450M-PLUS motherboard

G-Skill Ripjaws V RAM (2x8GB, 2400hz)

Corsair CX650M PSU

so do y'all think I'll have a bottleneck? 

And if anyone cares, I'll be using the NZXT H500 case, along with some Corsair fans. I may also upgrade the CPU cooler to an NZXT Kraken later down the line.

Thanks in advance!

Micah

[Bananasplit_00]

This is fine, PSU isn't really the best pick but it's not especially explosive at least 

[NunoLava1998]

What's your budget? You can build something better

[Nocte]

Where are you buying from? US?

[mplays03]

Just now, Bananasplit_00 said:

This is fine, PSU isn't really the best pick but it's not especially explosive at least 

Thanks! I wanted to cut $$ without removing something that would directly affect performance, and I may upgrade it down the line.

 

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

What's your budget? You can build something better

Around $650, or maybe a little more. but the more it is the longer I have to save.

 

Just now, Nocte said:

Where are you buying from? US?

Yes, Florida. Should've included that!

Thanks guys.

[Origami Cactus]

When are you planning on building it?

The new ryzen 3000 series should be revealed in a month, so the first and second gen stuff should get a price reduction, also ryzen 3000 is 7nm, so pretty cool.

[NunoLava1998]

A bit more expensive than the 650$, but quite nice:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.39 @ Newegg) 
Total: $696.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:16 EDT-0400

[Nocte]

What about this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$78.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Team - L5 LITE 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$17.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$42.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB OC Video Card	$219.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$39.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$714.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$679.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:17 EDT-0400

 

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

A bit more expensive than the 650$, but quite nice:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.39 @ Newegg) 
Total: $696.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:16 EDT-0400

You went from 2x8 gb to a single channel ddr4 2400mhz stick, dropped the motherboard down a notch, dropped the psu down a notch, dropped the case down 2 notches, and for what? The rtx2060? at 1080p 60hz?

[Oalei]

6 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

A bit more expensive than the 650$, but quite nice:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.39 @ Newegg) 
Total: $696.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:16 EDT-0400

This just need a few adjustments and its fine. Like maybe a 1660(Ti) 2x8GB from oLoY is 69usd (IDK If oLoY is any good) and squeeze a 1Tb Ssd 

[mplays03]

Just now, Origami Cactus said:

When are you planning on building it?

The new ryzen 3000 series should be revealed in a month, so the first and second gen stuff should get a price reduction, also ryzen 3000 is 7nm, so pretty cool.

As soon as I finish saving (I've already got $80 in a week, and if somehow I don't make it before July, I'll be turning 16 and can get a job.)

So the new gen of Ryzen chips is a different size? meaning that it won't be compatible with the AM4 socket? I was hoping I'd be able to upgrade things down the line without changing core components, but that may not be the case...

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

A bit more expensive than the 650$, but quite nice:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.39 @ Newegg) 
Total: $696.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:16 EDT-0400

Looks nice! I should mention I already have a SSD and hard drive from my old computer (456 Gig and 1TB, respectively).

I want to stick with the NZXT case, because as much as I want the best performance, it's gotta look good, and the NZXT looks really nice. 

2 minutes ago, Nocte said:

What about this:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 5 2600X 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor	$179.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$59.99 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$78.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Team - L5 LITE 120 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$17.99 @ Newegg
Storage	Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$42.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1660 6 GB OC Video Card	$219.99 @ SuperBiiz
Case	Corsair - Carbide Series 88R MicroATX Mid Tower Case	$39.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply	Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$39.99 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$714.82
	Mail-in rebates	-$35.00
	Total	$679.82
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:17 EDT-0400

 

This also looks good! Like I said before, I can drop the SSD/HDD, and get the NZXT case, and I didn't realize Gigabyte had a 1660 at $220! 

Is that 550 watt PSU gonna be enough? It seems like a small amount of power, but what do I know.

Thanks again.

[GoldenLag]

5 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

A bit more expensive than the 650$, but quite nice:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-2400 Memory  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce RTX 2060 6 GB XC BLACK GAMING Video Card  ($349.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Corsair - Carbide SPEC-04 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($34.39 @ Newegg) 
Total: $696.13
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:16 EDT-0400

Um, what is this abomination?

 

With rebates aswell?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($187.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.90 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $583.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:21 EDT-0400

 

Here is something within budget that.

 

Swap to 16GB of memmory or 8GB of memmory if you want to.

[Origami Cactus]

2 minutes ago, mplays03 said:

As soon as I finish saving (I've already got $80 in a week, and if somehow I don't make it before July, I'll be turning 16 and can get a job.)

So the new gen of Ryzen chips is a different size? meaning that it won't be compatible with the AM4 socket? I was hoping I'd be able to upgrade things down the line without changing core components, but that may not be the case...

No, the ryzen 3000 and 4000 will be still compatible with the AM4 socket, with a motherboard bios update.

Just like ryzen 1000=14nm, ryzen 2000=12nm, but still AM4.

[Nocte]

3 minutes ago, mplays03 said:

Is that 550 watt PSU gonna be enough? It seems like a small amount of power, but what do I know.

You could even do with 400W for that system.

[mplays03]

2 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Um, what is this abomination?

 

With rebates aswell?

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($50.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($62.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Video Card: XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card  ($187.98 @ Amazon) 
Case: Cougar - MX330 ATX Mid Tower Case  ($39.90 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($54.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $583.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:21 EDT-0400

 

Here is something within budget that.

 

Swap to 16GB of memmory or 8GB of memmory if you want to.

This looks good as well.  I don't know anything about Radeon cards, Should I get one of them instead?

3 minutes ago, Origami Cactus said:

No, the ryzen 3000 and 4000 will be still compatible with the AM4 socket, with a motherboard bios update.

Just like ryzen 1000=14nm, ryzen 2000=12nm, but still AM4.

That's good to hear.

1 minute ago, Nocte said:

You could even do with 400W for that system.

Really? cool. I always assumed a PC would suck up more power than that.

[Oalei]

4 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Um, what is this abomination?

 

With rebates aswell?

You just need a few adjustments, but still a little too much 

[realpetertdm]

IMO you should go for Intel if you're going to be playing CSGO

[NunoLava1998]

This should be better; sorry:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($78.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($279.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $659.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:30 EDT-0400

 

(680$ without rebates, a little overbudget)

The motherboard is fine

[GoldenLag]

1 minute ago, mplays03 said:

This looks good as well.  I don't know anything about Radeon cards, Should I get one of them instead?

It performs the same as an gtx 1060 6GB, but better in RTX and AMD titles. It also has more memmory to play with. 

 

Its also cheaper which makes it a lot better to pick up in comparison to the gtx 1060

[mplays03]

Just now, realpetertdm said:

IMO you should go for Intel if you're going to be playing CSGO

Well, I've never actually played CS:GO, It just looks like a really fun game to me. Why would Intel be better for that game?

 

1 minute ago, GoldenLag said:

It performs the same as an gtx 1060 6GB, but better in RTX and AMD titles. It also has more memmory to play with. 

 

Its also cheaper which makes it a lot better to pick up in comparison to the gtx 1060

Ok. I may grab one of those instead then... what would be an AMD title? and can I assume there are Nvidia titles as well?

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

This should be better; sorry:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($116.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($59.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($78.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB VENTUS XS OC Video Card  ($279.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: NZXT - H500 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case  ($69.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($53.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $659.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-19 08:30 EDT-0400

 

(680$ without rebates, a little overbudget)

The motherboard is fine

I like the looks of this as well!

Thanks so much, guys.

I'm coming from a nearly dead audio forum, I've never seen this many posts in under fifteen minutes before! lol

[LukeSavenije]

21 minutes ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

This is fine, PSU isn't really the best pick but it's not especially explosive at least 

DON'T YOU DARE TO UNDERESTIMATE THE CXM

 

seriously speaking, get a cx550

[GoldenLag]

12 minutes ago, mplays03 said:

Ok. I may grab one of those instead then... what would be an AMD title? and can I assume there are Nvidia titles as well?

A title sponsored by AMD. There are Nvidia titles aswell, but seing as they are now going to optimize for the RTX cards. AMD cards should perform well in those titles aswell

[GoldenLag]

33 minutes ago, mplays03 said:

Well, I've never actually played CS:GO, It just looks like a really fun game to me. Why would Intel be better for that game?

Better clockspeed, thats why.

 

Tho at your budget there is no intel CPU offering

[mplays03]

8 minutes ago, GoldenLag said:

Better clockspeed, thats why.

 

Tho at your budget there is no intel CPU offering

OK, good to know. 

 

I have compiled my list of components (I think...)

NZXT H500 White

AMD Ryzen 5 1600

ASRock B450M PRO4

MSI GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6GB

Corsair TX550M

Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB

and some Corsair SP120 quiet fans for good measure.

Thank you all so much for your help! This is a very welcoming community, and I'll probably stick around.  I'll also update this thread when the build is done!  

Micah

[Hans Power]

No, but the ASUS TUF motherboard is downright aweful! Better get an MSI b450m Mortar - should be roughly the same price but miles ahead in terms of VRM cooling and with that it might become one of the few cheap Motherboards which can properly power a Zen 2/Ryzen 3 when those come out.

 

And just to blow some steam while I'm at it. I actually don't understand at all why so many people still go for the TUF Motherboards - you see tons of people in these forums who wonder why their TUF mobos don't boost their Ryzen CPUs as much as they should and it's even on the lowest possible tier here on the forums motherboard Tier list! I don't expect everyone to watch Buildzoid who trashed those boards and praised the MSI Mortar but don't people do any research these days? Even @LinusTech used them in a sponsored video recently and at least LTT should know better than endorsing that junk, them being the experts on PC tech.