Gamers win, Swatters lose

[Squ1rtlePWN]

In a not-so-stunning twist, a serial 'Swatter' has been sentenced to 20 years in federal prison. He has been connected to at least 17 incidents of Swatting.":Tyler Rai Barriss pleaded guilty in November to a total of 51 charges "

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/serial-swatter-tyler-barriss-sentenced-20-years-death-kansas-man-n978291 

[Ashleyyyy]

sentenced to death? 

 

i don't know what swatting is but it must be serious... 

[Tundral]

5 minutes ago, Squ1rtlePWN said:

In a not-so-stunning twist, a serial 'Swatter' has been sentenced to death. He has been connected to at least 17 incidents of Swatting.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/serial-swatter-tyler-barriss-sentenced-20-years-death-kansas-man-n978291 

From the article

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Barriss agreed to serve 20 to 25 years in federal prison as part of a plea agreement, according to the U.S. Attorney's Office in the Central District of Los Angeles.

 

[John_Trollinski]

Finally they put him away about time.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Tundral said:

From the article

sentenced to death my ass, thanks for doing what OP didn't and pulling a quote from an article.

 

1 minute ago, firelighter487 said:

i don't know what swatting is but it must be serious... 

calling a swat team on a streamer, usually under the guise of a suspected bomb threat or shooting, to mess with them (it's pretty serious, some people have died getting swatted)

[Ashleyyyy]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

calling a swat team on a streamer, usually under the guise of a suspected bomb threat or shooting, to mess with them (it's pretty serious, some people have died getting swatted)

omg really? that's horrible... 

[Aimi]

blog post material etc.

[Drak3]

2 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

get you as are in danger because of the precious 2nd amendment

The second amendment has absolutely nothing to do with this.

[Streetguru]

1 minute ago, PacketMan said:

Sentenced to death? I didn't read that

Anyway, cops are guilty too:

Why do US cops always shoot that easily?? WTF, I get you as are in danger because of the precious 2nd amendment, but this is...

Only a tiny percentage of police incidents end in deadly force, and if the police get a call that someone is murdering people or has them hostage they're going to be on edge going into the situation.

[Tristerin]

2 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Sentenced to death? I didn't read that

Anyway, cops are guilty too:

Why do US cops always shoot that easily?? WTF, I get you as are in danger because of the precious 2nd amendment, but this is...

Because the Academy teaches them they are better than citizens, that all citizens are liars, crooks, cheats and nefarious.  To treat citizens like lessers.

 

As a combatives instructor who works with law enforcement it makes me sick to the bone.

[Aimi]

1 minute ago, PacketMan said:

Then why do US cops pull their guns out so easily? Can't find any other reason

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...he claimed he had fatally shot his father and was holding the rest of the family hostage.

If SWAT thinks he shot and killed someone already then they'll be on high fucking alert, and dropping your hands (especially near your waist) will get you shot quick.

[IAmAndre]

3 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

Only a tiny percentage of police incidents end in deadly force, and if the police get a call that someone is murdering people or has them hostage they're going to be on edge going into the situation.

And then they are expected to shoot on unarmed citizens? Staying lucid under pressure is part of their training 

[Drak3]

2 hours ago, PacketMan said:

Then why do US cops pull their guns out so easily? Can't find any other reason

They were called over a claim of:

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suspected bomb threat or shooting,

so, the natural reaction woulf be to stop the threat.

 

And it's not like Criminals obey gun laws anyway, so yes, 2A is completely irrelevant to this conversation.

Edited March 29, 2019 by Drak3
Broken forum is broken. Shocking.

[Fasauceome]

2 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Then why do US cops pull their guns out so easily? Can't find any other reason

Probably because they're taught that their main job is to go into dangerous situations with the readiness to protect their lives and others, which gives them a bit of a hero complex and elevates their fight or flight responses.

 

There's actually a huge problem with police training in the United States, whenever I've heard an experienced officer talk about police academy they often cite the erroneous training used, and how it often gets people killed.

[PlayStation 2]

4 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Then why do US cops pull their guns out so easily? Can't find any other reason

Because if shit has to go down, they want to come home alive, just like the rest of us.

To get the SWAT team to your house like that, you'd have to be accused of some incredibly serious shit, and it's not funny at all when people do that shit.

[Tundral]

1 minute ago, PacketMan said:

it would be too much punishment for just pranks

There was a case of some teens throwing really heavy rocks down to a highway from a bridge above and a dude died because he was fatally hit by one of the rocks. Do you think life in prison / death sentence would be too harsh for that too.

 

I think life in prison would be fitting for a person that doesn't understand at 28 years old that swatting is a serious offense that could easily end up in someone killed.

[Tristerin]

2 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Then why do US cops pull their guns out so easily? Can't find any other reason

I answered you - I work with law enforcement.  Its sad tbh. 

 

Now I also work with law enforcement in the aspect of - YOU MUST GO HOME EACH NIGHT TO YOUR FAMILY.  So doing what it takes is a thing I teach.  Because as a citizen who is well equipped - I WILL MAKE IT HOME regardless of the situation.

[dizmo]

OP you misread the headline. It's not sentenced to death, it's sentenced to 20 years for the death of someone else. Entirely different.

Personally, I'm glad he's getting a heavy punishment. 17 similar incidents by the same person shows a pattern that shouldn't be ignored.

 

6 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Sentenced to death? I didn't read that

Anyway, cops are guilty too:

Why do US cops always shoot that easily?? WTF, I get you as are in danger because of the precious 2nd amendment, but this is...

They're not really guilty, if I recall correctly he reached into his waistband and the officers fired. If you come out of your house, and see officers surrounding you telling you to put your hands up, you do not put your hands anywhere but up. Simple.

4 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Even if he was convicted to death, it would be too much punishment for just pranks

Even if it ends in a fatal shooting, a prank should be punished with death.

I don't think he aimed for the gamers being killed

No, it's not. He caused a death due to his careless actions, and that deserves a severe punishment. If that was the first time, then perhaps that's harsh, but 17 times?

He has a lifetime sentence coming. Plain and simple. You don't call a SWAT team on someone expecting nice things, especially when you tell them that you (as in person he's calling it on) have killed people or intend to cause bodily harm. You can't seriously be that daft.

2 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

Then why do US cops pull their guns out so easily? Can't find any other reason

Because of the state the US is in. There's massive gun violence, and as a result, they approach every situation with a greater sense of awareness.

In this particular incident, they were told someone had or was going to injure people. So, guns drawn to react appropriately to the threat.

[Drak3]

Just now, dizmo said:

There's massive gun violence

For most of the US, that's not true.

[PlayStation 2]

Just now, PacketMan said:

Just like the suspect that ends up being innocent but anyway murderer?

I can't understand why do you guys defend the excessive force used by cops in most situation in the US, maybe because I'm European and we don't have the gun, shootings, etc problem, but I don't think that's the way to act

This thread is becoming a lot more political than I thought it would be

Yeah, that's because European police forces are too busy jailing people for making dumb jokes on Twitter.

Excessive force with police here isn't common at all, but when you call SWAT on, say, someone allegedly plotting a bomb threat, they're going to act with force. Should they? I dunno. I'm not going to say I know the solution to this problem, but there's a reason for it.

[Aimi]

5 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

By killing in the act at the suspect? Is that how cops work there?

When SWAT is called in to deal with something like a hostage situation, they're ready to shoot. It didn't help that the suspect kept reaching near his waist.

[JoostinOnline]

Change the title man, this isn't funny. It's a tragic situation. I'm glad the guy is going to jail but with an innocent man being killed and his niece committing suicide from grief, any joking is incredibly inappropriate.

[The Benjamins]

 

15 minutes ago, IAmAndre said:

And then they are expected to shoot on unarmed citizens? Staying lucid under pressure is part of their training 

The citizen was considered armed and dangerous, also a possible treat to others in the building.

 

so the officers could not let him leave the door way, and him lowering his arms is the same general action to grab a concealed weapon. 

[Bcat00]

I remember this dumbass.

 

He caused a unrelated person’s death because of his crap. Should be a death sentence if you asked me. The guy is a repeat offender and even bragged while in prison when one of the prison computers glitched up and allowed him on the internet during his imprisonment 

[dizmo]

15 minutes ago, Drak3 said:

For most of the US, that's not true.

I don't believe I narrowed it down to certain areas. As a whole, the US has a lot of gun violence. This has been proven time and again.

In the US, it's incredibly easy to acquire a firearm, and thus, there's more firearm related violence.

8 minutes ago, PacketMan said:

I didn't meant the guy didn't deserve a severe punishment, I think those 20-25 years are more than enough, I meant that death sentence for a shitty prank that no one would laugh with would be excessive

 

That's what I'm saying, people keep denying US have a problem with massive gun violence, and I get that cops are a bit more stressed because anyone could have a weapon, but there should be better ways to deal with this stuff than opening fire that easily

Why do you say easily? Do you think they just took the decision to open fire lightly? Highly unlikely. As stated in the article, he raised and lowered his hands several times before they opened fire (it's been a while since I've seen the video). I believe the whole time they were shouting for him to keep them up. Lowering them goes directly against their commands. They gave him several chances. In a possible hostage situation when you've removed the hostage taker from the environment, you don't give unlimited chances.