4k or 1440p? (27")

[BadDude]

With RTX 2080 ti, am I better off with 1440p (higher fps) or 4k (more beautiful display)? I play wide range of titles, both competitive and single player, and will be using the monitor for web browsing, youtube, and streaming netflix as well. 

 

Also, can anyone give an approximation of fps increase when playing on 4k res with in-game settings at medium vs highest? The most high-end 4k monitor right now can do 144hz, so I might go for 4k if lowering in-game settings can push my fps from like 70 to 100+

 

Thanks in advance!

[pizapower]

27'' or 32'' ?

[BadDude]

Just now, pizapower said:

27'' or 32'' ?

27", sorry forgot to mention. 

[BundleBuzz]

4K for future proof ish??

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, BadDude said:

27", sorry forgot to mention. 

At this screen size there won't be any difference between 4k and 1440p, your image quality will be much the same so go 1440p so you can max settings with a higher fps.

 

4k only makes sense 32 inches and above and even then I'd take a 3440x1440p 34inch ultrawide first any day.

[Turtle Rig]

1 hour ago, BadDude said:

With RTX 2080 ti, am I better off with 1440p (higher fps) or 4k (more beautiful display)? I play wide range of titles, both competitive and single player, and will be using the monitor for web browsing, youtube, and streaming netflix as well. 

 

Also, can anyone give an approximation of fps increase when playing on 4k res with in-game settings at medium vs highest? The most high-end 4k monitor right now can do 144hz, so I might go for 4k if lowering in-game settings can push my fps from like 70 to 100+

 

Thanks in advance!

If your not going to use 4k resolution on your desktop then its a waiste of money.

[Turtle Rig]

Just now, Turtle Rig said:

If your not going to use 4k resolution on your desktop then its a waiste of money.

And you can play games at 1440p with all AA methods on.  4k is not reality its only 60fps with some dips.. 1440p with AA will give you triple digit frame rates.

[BadDude]

19 hours ago, Princess Cadence said:

At this screen size there won't be any difference between 4k and 1440p, your image quality will be much the same so go 1440p so you can max settings with a higher fps.

 

4k only makes sense 32 inches and above and even then I'd take a 3440x1440p 34inch ultrawide first any day.

What do u mean 4k and 1440p will look the same on 27"? I can already see a clear difference between my 15" Macbook Pro at 2880x1800 vs my friend's 15" dell laptop at 4k. I haven't seen them in games but the difference is very clear when browsing website.

[Kitsan]

It all depends on the rest of your PC, there's no point in a 4K 144Hz display unless you have a 2080 Ti or Titan for example. Unless you want to future proof your PC with a monitor that costs more than the rest of it...

 

It feels like a 1440p 144Hz is a much better option for the vast majority of people right now, as it strikes a balance between competitive and single player.

 

Your other option is to run a mid/low end 32" IPS 4K @ 60Hz and a 27" TN 1440p @ 144+Hz if you have the space/cash 

[jones177]

 

 

For 27" go 1440p 144hz. 4k monitors only start to make sence at 32". 

 

27" 4k 60hz monitors are cheap enough to have as a second monitor with a 1440p 144hz setup.

At 4k 27" you will only really benefit with games that use 4k textures like a modded Skyrim or Fallout 4.   

 

At 4k with a RTX 2080 ti I can play games like Assassin's Creed Odyssey over 60fps with most settings maxed out. With lesser games everything is maxed out. 

My GTX 1080 ti could maintain 60 on medium to high settings on all my vanilla games so it was not a stretch to expect ulta with the 2080 ti.

The settings I don't max out are the ones I don't notice like shadows and DoF.

To get these type of results you also need a 5ghz CPU as well but you could get by with a i7 8700k with all core at 4.7ghz.

 

What I really need in a 4k monitor for a 2080 ti is a 75 to 100hz at 32". That is what my tests are telling me. Pity they don't exist yet.

 

The best display for my 2080 ti is my 38" 75hz 3840 X 1600 ultra wide. It also keeps me above 60fps with RT on high with Metro Exodus.

I went with the 75hz 3840 X 1600 ultra wide over a 3440 X 1440 144hz and a 4k 27" 144hz monitor because of the screen height. They feel cramped to me. 

To give you an Idea:  

 

27" 16:9 and 34: 21:9 = 13 1/2" to 13 3/4"

32" 16:9 = 15 1/2" to 15 3/4"

38" 21:9 = 14 3/4"

 

14 3/4" screen height is the minimum for immersion for me.

[i_build_nanosuits]

27'' 1440p all day long...

[Peskanova]

if its for gaming 24/27' 1440p 144/165hz with gsync if possible, Gaming at 4k its expensive and not for gamers (better high refresh rate with a 24' monitor than any 4k). For games just think that from 1080p to 1440p is around 70% more pixels thats huge work for your gpu, I game with a 8600k + 1070 + 1440p 165hz monitor (24 inch) and If I can trade anything its that resolution for more fps. For my experience (and I think most people agree) high fps + high refresh rate + gsync is the way to go, you can trade 1440p even 4k for less screen size just search about pixel density "ppi" on monitors(your smartphone is 1080p but with a 6 inch screen it looks waaaay better than a 1080p 32inch tv, thats pixel density).

tdlr: gaming best experience (with a 2080ti) : 144hz(or more) with gsync , if 24 inch->1080p or 1440p, if 27 inch -> 1440p.

[Frogpuppy]

This is a personal preference. I have a similar gpu and lately I got a 4k monitor (4k 144) and GOD the image looks so sharp and by far better than 2k (xb271h).

However in competitive games I don't think that I'll care about the sharpness but I still can lower the resolution to 2k to get higher fps. It will look a bit blurry but it is not that bad, at least the blurriness isn't like I expected.

If I was you I'll go with 4k but as I said it is totally personal preferences. 

 

If you are planning to get an xv273k, keep in mind that the monitor has really bad backlight bleeding. It is worse than any blb I have ever seen in my life.

It is easily noticeable in dark scenes even at 20 brightness and very bright room. 

[BadDude]

8 hours ago, Frogpuppy said:

This is a personal preference. I have a similar gpu and lately I got a 4k monitor (4k 144) and GOD the image looks so sharp and by far better than 2k (xb271h).

However in competitive games I don't think that I'll care about the sharpness but I still can lower the resolution to 2k to get higher fps. It will look a bit blurry but it is not that bad, at least the blurriness isn't like I expected.

If I was you I'll go with 4k but as I said it is totally personal preferences. 

 

If you are planning to get an xv273k, keep in mind that the monitor has really bad backlight bleeding. It is worse than any blb I have ever seen in my life.

It is easily noticeable in dark scenes even at 20 brightness and very bright room. 

May I ask which 4k 144hz monitor you're using? Also what do you mean it will look a bit blurry when running 2k on a 4k screen, is it because you're used to 4k or is it because of the scaling? If it's because of scaling, how much worse does 2k on 4k screen looks compared to 2k on the native 2k screen?

[Ithanul]

2 hours ago, BadDude said:

May I ask which 4k 144hz monitor you're using? Also what do you mean it will look a bit blurry when running 2k on a 4k screen, is it because you're used to 4k or is it because of the scaling? If it's because of scaling, how much worse does 2k on 4k screen looks compared to 2k on the native 2k screen?

Not sure what monitor that user has, but when I run a game at 1440p on my 27" 4K monitor (Acer Predator X27) the image looks a tad less sharper.  Not super noticeable though when playing.  Could just be the AA the game uses though, as I tend to turn AA off when I run a game at 4K.

[BadDude]

50 minutes ago, Ithanul said:

Not sure what monitor that user has, but when I run a game at 1440p on my 27" 4K monitor (Acer Predator X27) the image looks a tad less sharper.  Not super noticeable though when playing.  Could just be the AA the game uses though, as I tend to turn AA off when I run a game at 4K.

X27 is the model that I'm looking into for the 4k option, so I've got some questions I would like to ask you. 

 

1. Do you use the monitor to do other stuffs like streaming 4k contents on Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.? If so, has your experience been pleasant? 

2. How's the predator shields? Are they actually useful, or just another marketing from Acer?

3. I read some reviews and found that once you OC to 144 hz, the display quality is not very good since Displayport 1.4 is only supposed to support up to 120 hz, thus the chroma subsampling. Have you tried OC to 144 hz? Would you rather stick to 120 hz because of reduced quality?

4. Anything else you'd like to add?

 

Thanks bro!

[Ithanul]

9 minutes ago, BadDude said:

X27 is the model that I'm looking into for the 4k option, so I've got some questions I would like to ask you. 

 

1. Do you use the monitor to do other stuffs like streaming 4k contents on Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.? If so, has your experience been pleasant? 

2. How's the predator shields? Are they actually useful, or just another marketing from Acer?

3. I read some reviews and found that once you OC to 144 hz, the display quality is not very good since Displayport 1.4 is only supposed to support up to 120 hz. Have you tried OC to 144 hz? Would you rather stick to 120 hz because of reduced quality?

4. Anything else you'd like to add?

 

Thanks bro!

1.  Yep, I watch a variety:  Youtube videos, Netflix, Amazon Prime, etc.  So far, the content looks good to me.  I even run 1080p and older 720p anime through VLC.

2.  Have yet to use those on mine.  Compare to my older 1440p Overlord (glossy screen), the glare on the X27 is far less since it is a matte screen.

3.  I mostly keep mine at 120Hz for daily usage and set for the higher chroma 4:4:4 as to run 144Hz you have to set chroma to 4:2:2.

4.  Note about FALD.  This is a very nice addition to IPS.  Helps a ton agaisnt BLB.  But, it has a bit of a con.  Images on solid black will have a mild glow around them.  Myself though, I only notice if I go looking for it.

[Frogpuppy]

On 3/12/2019 at 5:47 PM, BadDude said:

May I ask which 4k 144hz monitor you're using? Also what do you mean it will look a bit blurry when running 2k on a 4k screen, is it because you're used to 4k or is it because of the scaling? If it's because of scaling, how much worse does 2k on 4k screen looks compared to 2k on the native 2k screen?

Sorry for not answering quickly.

I'm using xv273k. The 2k image in the 4k monitor looks a bit blurry and less sharp than the 2k image in a native 2k monitor.

And yes the scaling is the cause of that. You can notice the difference but nothing too bad especially if you're planning to play fast, competitive games.

 

[BadDude]

1 hour ago, Frogpuppy said:

Sorry for not answering quickly.

I'm using xv273k. The 2k image in the 4k monitor looks a bit blurry and less sharp than the 2k image in a native 2k monitor.

And yes the scaling is the cause of that. You can notice the difference but nothing too bad especially if you're planning to play fast, competitive games.

 

Having played at both resolutions, would you say playing games at 2k vs 4k is a big difference? At 27" that is.

[Stefan Payne]

On 3/10/2019 at 4:34 PM, BadDude said:

27", sorry forgot to mention. 

As an owner of a 27"/1440p Screen, I'd say that that is optimal for Windows.

If you want 4K, you have to look at 32"!!

[Frogpuppy]

2 hours ago, BadDude said:

Having played at both resolutions, would you say playing games at 2k vs 4k is a big difference? At 27" that is.

Yes definitely you can easily notice the difference.