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Floatplane.. rant *Sigh*

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This is a rant about Floatplane.. I'm just really disappointed. Not because of the videos. Because of how hard it is to watch videos, it takes so long to buffer... and even downloading the videos. I have a connection of 80 down and 20 up. When downloading, download speeds are at 400-600kb/s. I don't understand why CDN hasn't been set up. The Server is in Canada I believe. It makes life easier. I have to wait at least 20 minutes to watch a 10 minute video. I remember that I started a download for a video that was around 650mb. I had to wait an hour for it to finish. I went out for a walk for 30 minutes and I didn't even finish, this is ridiculous. I don't if it's possible to get a refund for the 5 months on both LMG and BitWit.. 

 

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Strange. Floatplane for me starts the instant I hit play and has almost never buffered.

Even downloading a video just now finished so quickly that you could not determine the speed in which it downloaded.

I have synchronous gigabit.

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2 minutes ago, King Poet said:

Strange. Floatplane for me starts the instant I hit play and has almost never buffered.

Even downloading a video just now finished so quickly that you could not determine the speed in which it downloaded.

I have synchronous gigabit.

Where are you located? I'm in the UK. There's are reason why it's so crap. 

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1 minute ago, Abdul201588 said:

Where are you located? I'm in the UK. There's are reason why it's so crap. 

NY, USA

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From the Netherlands, I can tell floatplane loads just as fast as youtube and I can watch it effortlessly via 4g in the train so I don't feel like there's any buffering problem whatsoever. Also as far as I can tell downloads from the other side of the world go just as fast as those from a server 5km from home, it's not the speed that's influenced much by distance it's primarily the latency that is far greater when a server is far away.

 

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1 minute ago, Abdul201588 said:

Where are you located? I'm in the UK. There's are reason why it's so crap. 

It might be your internet, it is quite slow especially if trying to download videos at 1080p or greater which requires at least 100 download speed. Servers might also be a factor but I don't think so.

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4 minutes ago, TheWiseGuy said:

It might be your internet, it is quite slow especially if trying to download videos at 1080p or greater which requires at least 100 download speed. Servers might also be a factor but I don't think so.

Connection is fine. 80 down and 20 up... Using Ethernet cable.

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It is for me too. Super laggy and broken. But I'm from the middle East so....

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10 minutes ago, King Poet said:

NY, USA

You're close to the Server, your connection is much faster than mine

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Just now, TheWiseGuy said:

80 download is slow in general. 

How so? That's one of "fastest" speeds here in the UK.

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17 hours ago, SwagMaestro said:

You're wrong. It's not slow. It's not blazing fast but it's not slow. 

80 download is measured in bits while doing a speed test their are thousands of bits in a 600 mb file.

 

Do this test and send me a screenshot https://www.speedtest.net/

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Just now, TheWiseGuy said:

Do this test and send me a screenshot https://www.speedtest.net/

 Did a test. It's 60 down and 20 upload

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3 minutes ago, TheWiseGuy said:

80 download is measured in bits while doing a speed test their are thousands of bits in a 600 mb file.

It would take exactly 60 seconds to download a 600 MB file with an 80 Mb connection.

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4 minutes ago, TheWiseGuy said:

80 download is measured in bits while doing a speed test their are thousands of bits in a 600 mb file.

At 80Mbps it would take 1 minute to download a 600MB file.

There are 8 bits in a byte.

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Floatplane has other servers than one in North America (I think its physically located in US). They have at least 2 others, one in Europe and another in Asia or Australia. So I think this is more about your ISP slowing down traffic towards site they don't have whitelisted (possibly to prevent piracy).

 

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18 hours ago, Abdul201588 said:

How so? That's one of "fastest" speeds here in the UK.

UK Here too, and sorry but 80mbit is not one of the "fastest" at all.

 

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Home connection, and at the minute there are two 4k streams going on in the house along with another 1080p livestream from YT. I frequently get 450mbit on speedtest.

 

And Floatplane here is FAR from slow to download or buffer.

 

Downloading the 1080p version:

(For reference, that's a 180 megabyte file, and it downloads in approx. 10 seconds).

 

Streaming:

(You can see from the progress bar, that the video isn't pre-buffered either, that's straight up loading there and then).

 

It seems to me, it's your connection not Floatplane bud. 

 

I'd honestly say that Floatplane is the fastest streaming player I've ever seen, it's virtually instantaneous from click to first frame for me. @Slick and the team should be hella proud of it's performance.

 

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19 hours ago, TheWiseGuy said:

It might be your internet, it is quite slow especially if trying to download videos at 1080p or greater which requires at least 100 download speed. Servers might also be a factor but I don't think so.

A ten minute video at 1080p does not have a 100 Mbps bitrate. That video would be 7.5 Gigabytes. That's more data than you can fit on a DVD.

 

Try dividing that 100 Mbps by a factor of 10-15. That's about what a video in 1920*1080 is rendered at for internet distribution.

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Bet it’s a network issue on your side. Have you tried different devices? Different computer? Removing router from the equation? Somethings wrong but it’s on your side,

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7 hours ago, Srius1 said:

Bet it’s a network issue on your side. Have you tried different devices? Different computer? Removing router from the equation? Somethings wrong but it’s on your side,

Same issue. If I connect directly to the router. Same issue. 

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On 3/2/2019 at 10:43 PM, Kleine IJsbeer said:

From the Netherlands, I can tell floatplane loads just as fast as youtube and I can watch it effortlessly via 4g in the train so I don't feel like there's any buffering problem whatsoever. Also as far as I can tell downloads from the other side of the world go just as fast as those from a server 5km from home, it's not the speed that's influenced much by distance it's primarily the latency that is far greater when a server is far away. 

Depending on how the download is done, latency can have a direct impact on download speeds.

For example TCP (which I assume is used when you download from Floatplane) will stop sending data until it gets a confirmation that the previous data was received and acknowledged. The higher the latency, the more time is spend waiting before the next set of data is sent.

 

 

 

On a link with 30ms latency with a standard 64KB TCP window size, you won't be able to get over 17.4Mbps throughput.

 

You can read more about it and how to calculate it in this article.

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