fx 8350 Ryzen "3700x", Ryzen 2700x or my Current fx-8350 for Gaming at 60Hz?

[avrona]

I've been thinking of upgrading my CPU, however I'm not fully sure which one to get, or even, if it's worth upgrading at all. Initially, I wanted to go for a 2700x, as it seemed as a sound choice for an update, and since it's an AMD it's not too expensive. Then they announced their 3000 line, so I started thinking if I should just wait for the 3000 equivalent of the 2700x. Another option is that I just stay with what I've got so far, an fx-8350, as my monitor is 4k and 60Hz, so apart from potentially future-proofing, there isn't too much of a reason to get something that will get me way over 60 FPS in games. So what should I then do in terms of CPU on my current rig?

 

Specs:

CPU: fx-8350

Graphics card: GTX 1080 Ti

RAM: 16GB DDR3

[r2724r16]

5 minutes ago, avrona said:

Specs:

CPU: fx-8350

Graphics card: GTX 1080 Ti

RAM: 16GB DDR3

Get an 8600K or 8700K if you need a CPU right now. If you can wait a few months, get a 3700X. I recommend the latter.

[Nocte]

If you can wait, I would. Zen 2 is on 7nm and we should be seeing great improvements. Plus, the rumours that Ryzen 3000 is going to be up to 16c/32t might actually be true after the chip was shown at CES.

[Nocte]

1 minute ago, Geography said:

Get an 8600K or 8700K if you need a CPU right now. If you can wait a few months, get a 3700X.

The 2700X costs as much as the 8600K (and way less than the 8700K), if we have to talk in terms of value for money, the 2700X remains better than Coffee Lake imo.

[avrona]

1 minute ago, Geography said:

Get an 8600K or 8700K if you need a CPU right now. If you can wait a few months, get a 3700X.

They are Intel CPUs though, meaning they are way more expensive, plus I'm more of an AMD person anyway as I do have uses for many cores.

1 minute ago, Nocte said:

If you can wait, I would. Zen 2 is on 7nm and we should be seeing great improvements. Plus, the rumours that Ryzen 3000 is going to be up to 16c/32t might actually be true after the chip was shown at CES.

So are you saying I should definitely update then and wait for the 3000 series rather than just staying with my current CPU? 

[SupaKomputa]

with a 1080ti, i think you can just wait.

 

[Nocte]

Just now, avrona said:

So are you saying I should definitely update then and wait for the 3000 series rather than just staying with my current CPU?

I mean, the 2700X is still an amazing chip. If you can live with the 8350 a bit more, then wait, if you cannot just upgrade.

[avrona]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

with a 1080ti, i think you can just wait.

 

As in wait for the 3000 series or wait even further for current CPUs to get cheaper?

[avrona]

Just now, Nocte said:

I mean, the 2700X is still an amazing chip. If you can live with the 8350 a bit more, then wait, if you cannot just upgrade.

It's not like it's hard to live with it or something. All the games I play run at a high and smooth framerate and ultra settings in 4k.

[Nocte]

1 minute ago, avrona said:

It's not like it's hard to live with it or something. All the games I play run at a high and smooth framerate and ultra settings in 4k.

Then wait 100%.

[SupaKomputa]

You already have 8 core cpu. in 6 month there won't be anything new.

3700x will need x580 chipset which is not available today to drive the 12 core.

[Majestic]

The motherboards now, VRM-wise, will be able to support a 3600X. Buy a 2700X or 2600X and dump in a 3600X when they launch mid-2019. Waiting half a year when you have a nice GPU but a shit CPU seems dumb. You won't get the most out of that GPU for the longest time.

[Brooksie359]

As someone who had the 8350 i have no idea how you can still be using it even if it is for 4k 60. I know there were plenty of games where the thing would dip like crazy. At this point the 2700x or the 3000 series would be one huge upgrade so either would be a good choice. The thing about the 3000 series is that they will support pcie 4.0 so current motherboards won't support 4.0 and you would need a 500 series motherboard to do so. 

[Brooksie359]

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

The motherboards now, VRM-wise, will be able to support a 3600X. Buy a 2700X or 2600X and dump in a 3600X when they launch mid-2019. Waiting half a year when you have a nice GPU but a shit CPU seems dumb. You won't get the most out of that GPU for the longest time.

The newer motherboards will support pcie 4.0 while the current ones will not.  

[avrona]

 

 

1 minute ago, Majestic said:

The motherboards now, VRM-wise, will be able to support a 3600X. Buy a 2700X or 2600X and dump in a 3600X when they launch mid-2019. Waiting half a year when you have a nice GPU but a shit CPU seems dumb. You won't get the most out of that GPU for the longest time.

It's not about getting the most out of it though, especially since my monitor is only a 60Hz. Also I don't have the type of money to get two CPUs as close to each other like that.

1 minute ago, Brooksie359 said:

As someone who had the 8350 i have no idea how you can still be using it even if it is for 4k 60. I know there were plenty of games where the thing would dip like crazy. At this point the 2700x or the 3000 series would be one huge upgrade so either would be a good choice. The thing about the 3000 series is that they will support pcie 4.0 so current motherboards won't support 4.0 and you would need a 500 series motherboard to do so. 

Well somehow I am using it and it's performing really well despite its age, and there are no dips in performance, or at least big ones.

[Majestic]

Just now, Brooksie359 said:

The newer motherboards will support pcie 4.0 while the current ones will not.  

A GTX 1080TI won't be really hurt in performance by even 8x PCI-E3.0. It will be a while before you notice a real difference with PCI-E4.0.

[Majestic]

Just now, avrona said:

It's not about getting the most out of it though, especially since my monitor is only a 60Hz. Also I don't have the type of money to get two CPUs as close to each other like that.

You can sell the 2600X.

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, Brooksie359 said:

The newer motherboards will support pcie 4.0 while the current ones will not.  

and yet their newest GPU still on pcie 3.0.

amd admit the addition is just for the sake of update, no gpu will make use of it.

[avrona]

3 minutes ago, Majestic said:

You can sell the 2600X.

But still, is it worth getting either CPUs in the first place though?

[.Apex.]

15 minutes ago, avrona said:

I've been thinking of upgrading my CPU, however I'm not fully sure which one to get, or even, if it's worth upgrading at all. Initially, I wanted to go for a 2700x, as it seemed as a sound choice for an update, and since it's an AMD it's not too expensive. Then they announced their 3000 line, so I started thinking if I should just wait for the 3000 equivalent of the 2700x. Another option is that I just stay with what I've got so far, an fx-8350, as my monitor is 4k and 60Hz, so apart from potentially future-proofing, there isn't too much of a reason to get something that will get me way over 60 FPS in games. So what should I then do in terms of CPU on my current rig?

 

Specs:

CPU: fx-8350

Graphics card: GTX 1080 Ti

RAM: 16GB DDR3

if you do other things than gaming then yeah it will be worth it to upgrade, but i think if you're getting 60 FPS+ with the FX 8350 in modern games, then there's really no reason to upgrade unless you upgrade your monitor as well.

 

though i do think there's a very noticeable improvement for me when i go well over 60FPS on a 60Hz monitor, less latency and a much smoother experience even on 60Hz, but it's up to you, and either way the GTX 1080Ti will be the bottleneck at 4K unless you play less intensive games.

 

 

[.Apex.]

you will upgrade sooner or later because the 8350 won't hold on for long as games get more demanding even for 60FPS.

[avrona]

1 minute ago, syn2112 said:

you will upgrade sooner or later because the 8350 won't hold on for long as games get more demanding even for 60FPS.

So is it worth upgrading now or later this year with current prices to future-proof my PC, or should I wait a few more years? Also I just got this new monitor in October so I'm not upgrading it any time soon.

[.Apex.]

Just now, avrona said:

So is it worth upgrading now or later this year with current prices to future-proof my PC, or should I wait a few more years? Also I just got this new monitor in October so I'm not upgrading it any time soon.

you definitely can wait a year or more if the games you're running are at 60 FPS+ then there's no need to upgrade right now.

 

though might i add, some games are very poorly optimized, for example Assassins Creed Origins / Odyssey, those games will cripple even an 8700K or a 2700X, so don't take them into consideration (or any other poorly optimized game).

[avrona]

Just now, syn2112 said:

you definitely can wait a year or more if the games you're running are at 60 FPS+ then there's no need to upgrade right now.

 

though might i add, some games are very poorly optimized, for example Assassins Creed Origins / Odyssey, those games will cripple even an 8700K or a 2700X, so don't take them into consideration (or any other poorly optimized game).

Well I don't play those, and the games I play run at a decent 45-60 FPS (with V-Sync).

[.Apex.]

1 minute ago, avrona said:

Well I don't play those, and the games I play run at a decent 45-60 FPS (with V-Sync).

if it's dropping to 45 FPS because of the CPU then personally i would consider an upgrade, but it's up to you if you can tolerate it longer.