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Gigabyte RX 580 on VS450 PSU?

JustinS
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Hey, so I am thinkig of buying a RX 580 with 8GB to replace my old GTX 960, but is a Corsair VS450 enough for the RX 580?

 

My PC right now:

i7 6700k @4.1Ghz

1x 8 GB Crucial CT8G4DFS8213 DDR4 Ram

Palit GTX 960 Jetstream with 4GB

MSI b150a Gaming Pro motherboard

Samsung 860 Evo 500GB

Western Digital 6400AACS-00D6B1 640GB

2 120mm fans

 

Edit: sorry for my bad English, I'm German.

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Get a higher quality PSU. The VS series is for super budget builds without a beefy graphics card or a secondary system that doesn't get pushed anymore.

PC Specs - AMD Ryzen 5 5600X MSI B550M Mortar 16GB Crucial Ballistix DDR4-3600 @ CL15 - RX5700XT 660p 1TBGB & 256GB 600p Fractal Define Mini C CM V550 - Pop!_OS 20.04

 

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If you can upgrade your PSU that is highly advised, the VS450 is about the worse you can get from Corsair quality wise.

 

Consider a TX550M or similarly priced 80+ Gold rated power supply... not that Gold rating matters by itself but usually the Gold ones are good quality wise without dumb cut outs present on the Bronze units.

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Just now, Princess Cadence said:

If you can upgrade your PSU that is highly advised, the VS450 is about the worse you can get from Corsair quality wise.

 

Consider a TX550M or similarly priced 80+ Gold rated power supply... not that Gold rating matters by itself but usually the Gold ones are good quality wise without dumb cut outs present on the Bronze units.

One: the vs series is 80+, not 80+ bronze

Two: good bronze units exist. cxm for example

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

One: the vs series is 80+, not 80+ bronze

Two: good bronze units exist. cxm for example

One: in no moment I mentioned the VS450 being 80+ Bronze, if you bother to read what I wrote I said that any thing below 80+ Gold such as 80+ Bronze has cut outs in quality that hardly makes them cheaper but turns them in considerable worse products.

 

Two: That is incorrect, just because the CXM doesn't suck as bad as the others it does not turn it into a "good" unit.

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CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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2 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

If you can upgrade your PSU that is highly advised, the VS450 is about the worse you can get from Corsair quality wise.

 

Consider a TX550M or similarly priced 80+ Gold rated power supply... not that Gold rating matters by itself but usually the Gold ones are good quality wise without dumb cut outs present on the Bronze units.

Thank your for your quick reply.

I am on a budget right now so I can't get a new PSU yet but I could get it in a month or so. Would it be bed for my VS450 to run the RX580 for a month? I could undervolt it if it helps.

 

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4 minutes ago, JustinS said:

Thank your for your quick reply.

I am on a budget right now so I can't get a new PSU yet but I could get it in a month or so. Would it be bed for my VS450 to run the RX580 for a month? I could undervolt it if it helps.

 

Yes at very least refrain from overclocking it, you should "survive" a whole month using it but there will always be a small yet present chance something bad could happen... the VS450 sadly is as entry level as it gets.

 

 

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CPU: Intel Core i7 8700 @4.45ghz |~| Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper 212X |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z370M D3H mATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: nVidia Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700KF @ 5.0Ghz (5.1Ghz 4-core) |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490 UD |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX @ 2666Mhz CL13 |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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8 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

One: in no moment I mentioned the VS450 being 80+ Bronze, if you bother to read what I wrote I said that any thing below 80+ Gold such as 80+ Bronze has cut outs in quality that hardly makes them cheaper but turns them in considerable worse products.

 

Two: That is incorrect, just because the CXM doesn't suck as bad as the others it does not turn it into a "good" unit.

1: disagree. the cxm for around 25-40 bucks is the best budget psu imo to get. sometimes if a g2 or something like that is on sale, then we are talking about something else, but if you're on a budget, it's completly fine.

 

2: So you're saying it's a bad unit? especially compared to I assume the orange label vs? I'll just leave then

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10 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

1: disagree. the cxm for around 25-40 bucks is the best budget psu imo to get. sometimes if a g2 or something like that is on sale, then we are talking about something else, but if you're on a budget, it's completly fine.

 

2: So you're saying it's a bad unit? especially compared to I assume the orange label vs? I'll just leave then

Aye, @Crunchy Dragon by no means discredit the CXM, but that unit is no match for those G2s or Focus Golds or TXMs. Considering humans get the ability to see the grey area (things that arent clearly good or bad) at about 10 years old, you're doing worse than some kids.

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25 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

One: the vs series is 80+, not 80+ bronze

Two: good bronze units exist. cxm for example

Thank you for your reply.

I'm planing to get the Cooler Master V750 (Tier A) PSU, I will undervolt the RX 580 till I get it, would you reccomend the V750?

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Aye, @Crunchy Dragon by no means discredit the CXM, but that unit is no match for those G2s or Focus Golds or TXMs. Considering humans get the ability to see the grey area (things that arent clearly good or bad) at about 10 years old, you're doing worse than some kids.

you know it's @Princess Cadence and not Crunchy, right? I don't consider the cxm gray, but sure. I agree it's not even close to those 3 listed. 

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Just now, JustinS said:

 

Thank you for your reply.

I'm planing to get the Cooler Master V750 (Tier A) PSU, I will undervolt the RX 580 till I get it, would you reccomend the V750?

750 is waaaaaaay too much. 550 or even 450 should be enough.

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Just now, LukeSavenije said:

750 is waaaaaaay too much. 550 or even 450 should be enough.

 I mean, I get it for 40€ might be a great deal. 

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Just now, JustinS said:

 I mean, I get it for 40€ might be a great deal. 

well, that sounds fair enough. brand new?

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2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

well, that sounds fair enough. brand new?

Used 6 months

 

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1 minute ago, JustinS said:

Used 6 months

 

I have absolutly no knowledge about second hand psu buying with warrenty, quality and things like that. Maybe @Stefan Payne can help me here?

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9 hours ago, JustinS said:

Used 6 months

9 hours ago, LukeSavenije said:

I have absolutly no knowledge about second hand psu buying with warrenty, quality and things like that. Maybe @Stefan Payne can help me here?

You have to look at the Warranty Terms of the Manufacturer.


For many Companys, wich include, but not limited to Corsair, you totally loose the Warranty when buying used. Wich means: 0 Days (and IIRC that's most. Seasonic as well)

Some give a reduced warranty, some in between...

 

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17 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

You have to look at the Warranty Terms of the Manufacturer.


For many Companys, wich include, but not limited to Corsair, you totally loose the Warranty when buying used. Wich means: 0 Days (and IIRC that's most. Seasonic as well)

Some give a reduced warranty, some in between...

 

Thank you for your reply, maybe I'll buy the Corsair Vengeance V650M brand new in "Mediamarkt" instead, do you think it's a good PSU to Power my PC?

 

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6 minutes ago, JustinS said:

Thank you for your reply, maybe I'll buy the Corsair Vengeance V650M brand new in "Mediamarkt" instead, do you think it's a good PSU to Power my PC?

Alda...

You go to Media Markt to buy games and dish washers (if you can get it in your car), but not PC-Hardware (well, except when there is a "Mining Rage" and you need a new GPU, then it can make sense to buy your Graphics card there but usually, AVOID HARDWARE PURCHASES THERE!).

PSU in those Electronic Markets are grossly overpriced!
That you order online. For example Caseking, Mindfactory.

 

And get something good.

Like a Bitfenix Formula.

But they seem to get Rid of the "Nachnahme" payment. Sadly.

So no paying at the door at Mindfactory no more. Also I don't see it with other options as well.

 

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43 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Alda...

You go to Media Markt to buy games and dish washers (if you can get it in your car), but not PC-Hardware (well, except when there is a "Mining Rage" and you need a new GPU, then it can make sense to buy your Graphics card there but usually, AVOID HARDWARE PURCHASES THERE!).

PSU in those Electronic Markets are grossly overpriced!
That you order online. For example Caseking, Mindfactory.

 

And get something good.

Like a Bitfenix Formula.

But they seem to get Rid of the "Nachnahme" payment. Sadly.

So no paying at the door at Mindfactory no more. Also I don't see it with other options as well.

 

So the Corsair V650M isn't good? It is cheaper in MediaMarkt than online and I will go there anyways to buy the Gigabyte RX 580.

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9 hours ago, JustinS said:

So the Corsair V650M isn't good? It is cheaper in MediaMarkt than online and I will go there anyways to buy the Gigabyte RX 580.

The Bitfenix Formula is better, for your system you don't need no 650W and should focus on quality first, wattage later.

The 550W is recommended...

"Hell is full of good meanings, but Heaven is full of good works"

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